BioLogic Log

[Pericles]

Did I miss where Ox asked for advice ??

He posted a picture, and I give him credit for that. As discussed earlier, he has severe muscle imbalances, and I proposed a chest routine as a move towards solving the problem. I am also sure that there are also imbalances in his legs. I had 13 years of training experience on the day Mike was born.

Imbalances occur, because people are unable to step back and objectively analyze themselves. The most common areas are rear delts, hamstrings, forearms, upper chest and back. People simply ignore these areas, and train their strong points because doing so is more rewarding.

The key is to remain teachable. I have been training, competing, and coaching for 37 years.

But you know what? There are still many things for me to learn

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

He posted a picture, and I give him credit for that. As discussed earlier, he has severe muscle imbalances, and I proposed a chest routine as a move towards solving the problem. I am also sure that there are also imbalances in his legs. I had 13 years of training experience on the day Mike was born.

Imbalances occur, because people are unable to step back and objectively analyze themselves. The most common areas are rear delts, hamstrings, forearms, upper chest and back. People simply ignore these areas, and train their strong points because doing so is more rewarding.

The key is to remain teachable. I have been training, competing, and coaching for 37 years.

But you know what? There are still many things for me to learn

Holy fuck PC leave it alone already!! He's made it clear he could give a rats ass about your opinion so why keep chiming in? Just to get under his skin? WTF..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Great job Mike. By my math that's a 27lb gain!! And it's 10lbs over where you were at after your last cycle. Looking forward to the pics. Did your BF go down at all? If so how much?

 

[searay]

He posted a picture, and I give him credit for that. As discussed earlier, he has severe muscle imbalances, and I proposed a chest routine as a move towards solving the problem. I am also sure that there are also imbalances in his legs. I had 13 years of training experience on the day Mike was born.

Imbalances occur, because people are unable to step back and objectively analyze themselves. The most common areas are rear delts, hamstrings, forearms, upper chest and back. People simply ignore these areas, and train their strong points because doing so is more rewarding.

The key is to remain teachable. I have been training, competing, and coaching for 37 years.

But you know what? There are still many things for me to learn

Have u ever used a bamboo bar? Made by a former competitor in columbus ohio! Sold at louie Simmons Westside barbell! 1 of the most famous power lifting and body building gyms in the country! Videos of the bamboo bar on you tube! I have one and love it! Nice addition to chest workout! Pvc pipe filled with water somewhat similar but like the bamboo bar better! They are like 250 dollars but worth it!

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Great job Mike. By my math that's a 27lb gain!! And it's 10lbs over where you were at after your last cycle. Looking forward to the pics. Did your BF go down at all? If so how much?

I actually cut during the first part of the cycle and lost a few pounds, so I would say I gained at least 30 lbs. from when I switched to bulking.

BF is still around 14-15%, pretty much the same as when I started. Once my natural test levels come back up to baseline I'll be cutting down to 7-8%.

 

[bickel29]

...I will be taking the next 6 months off and then starting a tren ace/test prop BioLogic cycle. I'll work on getting some post-cycle pics up.

Mike - first, good work on your cycle and thanks for the updates.

Second, I like your plan for your next (and third) cycle. I think this progression is good. I see too many guys talking about starting their 2nd or 3rd cycles with plans of running test e, d bol, tren a, mast, anavar, test p and Winnie all together for 12 weeks. I just look at plans like that and ask "why so much gear for your 2nd or 3rd cycle? How will you know what is working and what is not? Where will you go from there?".

It's one thing for a seasoned, experienced AAS user to stack gear in large quantities. But a guy on his 2nd cycle? Whoa!

Good work, man.

 

[JackC4]

But you know what?

I know when not to waste my time trying to "help" someone who does not want it. I know when not to let things like that hurt my EGO.

I've only been on this earth 28 yrs, you'd better know more then me, lol.

 

[Pericles]

Holy fuck PC leave it alone already!! He's made it clear he could give a rats ass about your opinion so why keep chiming in? Just to get under his skin? WTF..

You are exactly what is wrong w/ body building today. You kids are too lazy to learn how to train properly. Then, you are unwilling to put in the hard work, instead just thinking running gear will get you where you want to be.

It won't. Forums and threads here on MESO belong to no one individual. I am well aware of the fact that Mike does not want my advice (he needs it, he just does not want it) but there have been a ton of guys either offering good advice or liking/asking for my advice. It is just insanity to run tren when you don't have the basics down.

And why don't you post pics, Johnny Nutsac? That was rhetorical, we know why.

Since you kids don't want to listen to me, why don't you listen to Mands? He has built an excellent physique through hard work and training correctly. He is now improving on his natural potential. He is the kind of guy that SHOULD be running gear.

Go look at the vid he posted of his chest training. It is exactly what I proposed (although his reps are even higher....but Christ, he is using 100 lb dumbells).

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

You are exactly what is wrong w/ body building today. You kids are too lazy to learn how to train properly. Then, you are unwilling to put in the hard work, instead just thinking running gear will get you where you want to be.

[)][)] Ok gramps!!

And why don't you post pics, Johnny Nutsac? That was rhetorical, we know why.

LMAO. I'll post pics if and when I fucking feel like it not because some fat fucking clown is saying I should. In the meantime there's some pics of my back floating around here somewhere you can jack off to. I don't look like mands but imma big boy.

Since you kids don't want to listen to me, why don't you listen to Mands? He has built an excellent physique through hard work and training correctly. He is now improving on his natural potential. He is the kind of guy that SHOULD be running gear.

And YOU should be running gear?!?! Why don't you try getting under 20% BF PC, you fat ice cream lovin' fuck!! [)][)]

This'll be my only response to your retarded ghey ass, you're not gonna drag me into one of those ridiculous internet arguments you so enjoy. Stop worrying about what other guys look like and get your chubby ass on a treadmill somewhere.

 

[Stretch]

And why don't you post pics, Johnny Nutsac? That was rhetorical, we know why.

PC...PC....PC..........smh...

You know I love you bro....

But I've seen pics of Johnny.

And he would eat you...

 

[Mike Oxbig]

From what I remember, PC really wasn't that big. Perhaps big in the context of 'big boned' but certainly not on par with what one would expect from someone that talks as much shit as he does.

 

[Pericles]

PC...PC....PC..........smh...

You know I love you bro....

But I've seen pics of Johnny.

And he would eat you...

OK, post them up. I will start w/ a rear double bi, the one in my avatar.

 

[Stretch]

I will start w/ a rear double bi,

Is that a sex-position?!?!?

All you competitive BB's are on a slippery slope...if you catch my drift....[)]

I just want to be big and sexy at the beach, in FRONT of women wearing bikini's. Not on stage IN bikini's myself and in front of 98% men.

But hey, that's just me.

 

[SOLID1]

Ditto ^^

 

[fit2beking]

Is that a sex-position?!?!?

All you competitive BB's are on a slippery slope...if you catch my drift....[)]

I just want to be big and sexy at the beach, in FRONT of women wearing bikini's. Not on stage IN bikini's myself and in front of 98% men.

But hey, that's just me.

I know I for one will never compete. Kudos for those who do.

I just want to look good and walk around like I own the joint. [)]

 

[Pericles]

Having no luck posting competition photos....will try later.

As to whether or not I am big right now, I am planning on taking some pics soon.

We can start another thread then. Admittedly, and Mike I apologize, I have done a pretty comprehensive hijack here. Whatever you decide to do, I sincerely wish you luck. Believe it or not, I DO want to help people.

 

[Millard]

I actually cut during the first part of the cycle and lost a few pounds, so I would say I gained at least 30 lbs. from when I switched to bulking.

BF is still around 14-15%, pretty much the same as when I started. Once my natural test levels come back up to baseline I'll be cutting down to 7-8%.

Congratulations on the progress, Mike! And also on being one of the small minority of internet bodybuilders with the courage and confidence to post their current pictures online.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Is that a sex-position?!?!?

All you competitive BB's are on a slippery slope...if you catch my drift....[)]

Well, PC did say he was ranked 5th in NAMBLA - just sayin'...

Back on topic - Mike, great results. Your hard work has paid off.

 

[Pericles]

LOL, Back when I lived in SF, the Gay Parade would go by our (me and my roomate Jeff) apartment window. we were on the third floor.

There was always a huge debate between the "regular" gays, and NAMBLA. Most did not want them in the parade, but one year they got to march.

For those that don't know, NAMBLA stands for North America Man Boy Love Association. I am tolerant of Gay people, but NAMBLA is pure sickness.

The one time NAMBLA marched, my roommate took a gallon of water from the toilet, and as the NAMBLA contingent came through he dumped it on them and quickly closed the window.

Good times.

Well, PC did say he was ranked 5th in NAMBLA - just sayin'...

Back on topic - Mike, great results. Your hard work has paid off.

 

[JackC4]

NAMBLA, lol learn something new everyday around here