knee swelling from squats

I understand where your coming from, but the squat is going to place more pressure on your knees from the weight being placed directly over them rather than a leg press where you can come down at an angle and adjust foot position so hams can balance out weight placed over quads/knees. I'd suggest a slightly higher foot position on the platform to help alleviate some of the pressure on your knees
 
DD,

I'll give give that a try. I'm not sure if it's the squats or extensions though. I think I'll use the presses as my base and remove squats. If the swelling continues I'll remove the extensions and back the squats. If the swelling is still there I'm going to go get another set of injections.

Thanks guys for the help
 
DD,

I'll give give that a try. I'm not sure if it's the squats or extensions though. I think I'll use the presses as my base and remove squats. If the swelling continues I'll remove the extensions and back the squats. If the swelling is still there I'm going to go get another set of injections.

Thanks guys for the help

I kind of skimmed the thread, but I believe you said you have tight hip flexors? If your hips are tight, your knee is probably going way out over your toes during the squat, which puts more shear stress on your knees. This could be aggravating it.

Look up the Joe DeFranco's Agile 8 hip mobility routine and do it everyday. I takes about 5 minutes and does wonders. I have seriously tight hip flexors and whatnot, and if I don't do these for a few days, I feel myself tightening up again.

When you squat, make sure you go all the way into the hole. A half squat puts more stress on your knee then going past parallel. Your hamstrings have a stretch reflex at the bottom of the squat that helps fire the weight up. Point your toes out about 30 degrees in your stance too.

I'm a big believer in squats, but I also don't necessarily disagree with DD. My buddy who has the best wheels of anyone I really know personally, has never squatted. But most guys with bird legs don't squat either. I just love to do squats. Squats with perfect form are great for your entire body. Squats with bad form will destroy most of your body.

I like knee sleeves unless you are a powerlifter, or you squat light weight like Ronnie Coleman's video.
 
You might want to try his newest routine called "Limber 11".

I kind of skimmed the thread, but I believe you said you have tight hip flexors? If your hips are tight, your knee is probably going way out over your toes during the squat, which puts more shear stress on your knees. This could be aggravating it.

Look up the Joe DeFranco's Agile 8 hip mobility routine and do it everyday. I takes about 5 minutes and does wonders. I have seriously tight hip flexors and whatnot, and if I don't do these for a few days, I feel myself tightening up again.

When you squat, make sure you go all the way into the hole. A half squat puts more stress on your knee then going past parallel. Your hamstrings have a stretch reflex at the bottom of the squat that helps fire the weight up. Point your toes out about 30 degrees in your stance too.

I'm a big believer in squats, but I also don't necessarily disagree with DD. My buddy who has the best wheels of anyone I really know personally, has never squatted. But most guys with bird legs don't squat either. I just love to do squats. Squats with perfect form are great for your entire body. Squats with bad form will destroy most of your body.

I like knee sleeves unless you are a powerlifter, or you squat light weight like Ronnie Coleman's video.
 
DYS,

Wow brother, thank you. Lots of good info. I'm going to have to incorporate that.

No Prob. Hope it helps.

Some guys might flame me for mentioning him, but Mark Rippetoe has one of the most complete discriptions of a squat in Starting Strength.It is not high-bar powerlifter, or Olympic squat. It's a low-bar powerlifter squat, which a lot raw powerlifters use. It's also a great squat for us old guys because it's very easy on the joints compared to other squat methods. It does target your whole posterior chain more then Olympic squats though. Olympics are very quad dominant.

Olympic Squats (which most bodybuilders do, or try to) will wreck a lot of peoples knees. IMO, there is no reason to do them unless you're an Olympic Lifter. And High-Bar Powelift-type squats are best for geared powerlifters. A lot of guys do squat high-bar though, so it's more of a personal preference at that point.

In any case, it's a good read on squats, and you can adjust your technique from there. Moving to a high bar powerlifter squat is an easy change from low-bar.
 
usually extensions help out knee issues, just dont do them too heavy. They are great for warming up your knees before a press. I'm guessing its from squats
 
You all have given me alot of great ideas. Thank you. I'm going to try them all out over the next couple weeks and moving forward from there.
 
I low bar squat, usually my knees are g2g, you gotta like squat backwards like your sitting and make sure your knees don't pass in front of your toes like DieYoungStrong said. I am a big fan of Mark Rippetoe and Bill Starr and I do more full body oriented routines. I fucked up on my form today being lazy and now my left knee feels fucking jacked up.
 
I low bar squat, usually my knees are g2g, you gotta like squat backwards like your sitting and make sure your knees don't pass in front of your toes like DieYoungStrong said. I am a big fan of Mark Rippetoe and Bill Starr and I do more full body oriented routines. I fucked up on my form today being lazy and now my left knee feels fucking jacked up.

That is how I have been squatting, low bar squats. I wonder if front squats jacked me up?
 
Possibly, also if you don't point your toes outwards, and your knees don't stay in line with your toes/feet (while squatting), it is really hard to explain this shit, you create torque on your knees. For me to comfortably squat my feet need to be pointed way out and it does look exaggerated but it works wonders, but this all depends on your body mechanics I suppose but pointing your feet outwards is a must to take torque off your knees. Also if your on a cycle sheer volume could cause knee problems, it does it to me, but I am usually always good by next workout and I squat twice a week (pain actually subsides after a couple sets in for me but the first couple are irritating), Glucosamine based products work wonders on cycle.
 
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Possibly, also if you don't point your toes outwards, and your knees don't stay in line with your toes/feet (while squatting), it is really hard to explain this shit, you create torque on your knees. For me to comfortably squat my feet need to be pointed way out and it does look exaggerated but it works wonders, but this all depends on your body mechanics I suppose but pointing your feet outwards is a must to take torque off your knees. Also if your on a cycle sheer volume could cause knee problems, it does it to me, but I am usually always good by next workout and I squat twice a week (pain actually subsides after a couple sets in for me but the first couple are irritating), Glucosamine based products work wonders on cycle.

I had been doing legs twice a week. I was told they needed to catch up to my upper body.:mad: My toes are out and I make sure to keep my knees from any weird angles. Maybe it is just volume. I just hate giving it up. I'm not taking any orals right now, I wonder if 600 mg ibuprofens for the next four weeks will be ok? Then I get more gel steroids in my knee
 
I had been doing legs twice a week. I was told they needed to catch up to my upper body.:mad: My toes are out and I make sure to keep my knees from any weird angles. Maybe it is just volume. I just hate giving it up. I'm not taking any orals right now, I wonder if 600 mg ibuprofens for the next four weeks will be ok? Then I get more gel steroids in my knee

Might have to drop down the squat weight, make sure you are getting nice depth (below parallel). I moved up on squat weight too fast in the past and had to drop the weight back down and make sure I was getting nice full depth squats. I have no patience but slow progress is usually long-term progress. I am guilty of overdoing things on cycle and I usually end up getting a minor or not so minor injury towards the end.

I just pulled something in my upper back 2 weeks ago forcing an extra rep squatting, I felt like I did a good morning instead of a squat :drooling:. I should have let it drop on the pins but I forced the rep anyway and then I had to back the weight back down 25 pounds and work back to where I was at, 2 weeks later. Complete waste of 2 weeks. I was doing way too much volume b/c I was on cycle.
 
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I thought that could be a possibility, too much weight too fast. I typically squat to a box so I know I'm getting enough depth
 

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