Winter Bulk Cycle: 14 weeks

[eraexshoku]

Hello guys, what do you think about this cycle? Thanks

My Stats:
6'1
182.98lbs
12% BF
Age: 24
3 cycles experience (dbol; test prop and winny; test prop and oxandrolone)
3 years of lifting. - 2.5k calorie maint. will be eating 4k calories.

Testosterone Enanthate: 1-7 500mg, 8-14 750mg. (I will up the Test to 750mg because Deca from the 8th week will be 500mg)
Deca (Nandro Decanoate): 1-7 250mg, 8-12 500mg. (or its better the whole cycle 500mg/w?)
Dianabol: 1-4 or 1-6 50mg ED.
Proviron: 2-15 25 mg ED.
Arimidex: 0.25 EOD or 0.50 EOD
HCG: 2-14 500 IU. (It's ok to start HCG already from week 2?)
Caber: 0.5mg week (one 0.5 tabs cut in two half, taking one (half) Monday & Thursday each week. It's right?)

PCT:
Nolvadex: 16-17 40mg ED, 18-10 20mg ED.
Clomid: 16-17 100mg ED, 18-10 50mg ED.

 

[Oregongearhead]

^^^^ Looks good to me , its what I"m doing right now . OGH

 

[DieYoungStrong]

You can start the HCG week 2, that's fine. I'm assuming you're going to pin 250 IU, 2x per week?

Personally I would just run the Deca at 250mg the whole way. I find Proviron to be useless, but it's your money. The Caber is a waste of money to IMO, more of a waste then Proviron.

Your PCT will fail. The Deca will need more than a month to clear out, and 2 weeks after your last test shot isn't enough time either.

Get a vial of Test P and run it at 300mg per week for 3 weeks after your enanthate is done for an easier cruise into PCT. Look up the half life of Deca though...It is LOOONG. NPP will help some, but Nandrolone itself likes to hang around longer then test.

 

[Raider72]

The Caber is a waste of money to IMO, more of a waste then Proviron.

Just curious on your take on Caber or why you think it is a waste? Thanks

 

[DieYoungStrong]

The Caber is a waste of money to IMO, more of a waste then Proviron.

Just curious on your take on Caber or why you think it is a waste? Thanks

Because the need for Caber to combat progesterone side effects of Deca are completely overblown on internet boards. Especially on a relatively low dose.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Because the need for Caber to combat progesterone side effects of Deca are completely overblown on internet boards. Especially on a relatively low dose.

I keep some Prami in the background just for close encounters....

 

[PIP427]

You can start the HCG week 2, that's fine. I'm assuming you're going to pin 250 IU, 2x per week?

Personally I would just run the Deca at 250mg the whole way. I find Proviron to be useless, but it's your money. The Caber is a waste of money to IMO, more of a waste then Proviron.

Your PCT will fail. The Deca will need more than a month to clear out, and 2 weeks after your last test shot isn't enough time either.

Get a vial of Test P and run it at 300mg per week for 3 weeks after your enanthate is done for an easier cruise into PCT. Look up the half life of Deca though...It is LOOONG. NPP will help some, but Nandrolone itself likes to hang around longer then test.

You mentioned Test P for 3 weeks after the enanthate is done.. Is this to maintain a level of test in his system while waiting for the Deca to clear out? And how will NPP help in this case?

 

[eraexshoku]

Thanks guys!

1) Can be useful to use Nandrolone Phenylproponiate 100mg/w (short ester) during the first 4 weeks in addition to the Nandrolone Decanoate 250mg/w (long ester) as a kickstart that include also Dbol????
2) My whole cycle will be 14 weeks. So as not to accustom my body and the receptors, should I mix (at the 8h week) Test Enanthate (500mg/w) and Testosterone Cyp (250mg/w)?
3) The dosage of the Caber it's correct?


Thanks so much

 

[Raider72]

Because the need for Caber to combat progesterone side effects of Deca are completely overblown on internet boards. Especially on a relatively low dose.

I hear that & it is spendy & hard to find legit. But from what I understand if you do struggle with high prolactin it is very valuable to have, correct?

 

[DieYoungStrong]

You mentioned Test P for 3 weeks after the enanthate is done.. Is this to maintain a level of test in his system while waiting for the Deca to clear out? And how will NPP help in this case?

Yes it is. However, I haven't looked up the half-life of Deca for his cycle. He might have to cruise longer, with a lower dose, but I'm not doing the research for him.

NPP will help because it is a much shorter ester then Nandrolone Deconoate (Deca). However, nandrolone itself takes awhile to clear.

Thanks guys!

1) Can be useful to use Nandrolone Phenylproponiate 100mg/w (short ester) during the first 4 weeks in addition to the Nandrolone Decanoate 250mg/w (long ester) as a kickstart that include also Dbol???? Yes, but my push for NPP is to get it the Nandrolone out of your system faster for a smoother (NOT FAILING) PCT. Not necessarily to speed up any effects of the Deca
2) My whole cycle will be 14 weeks. So as not to accustom my body and the receptors, should I mix (at the 8h week) Test Enanthate (500mg/w) and Testosterone Cyp (250mg/w)? Whatever floats your boat. Not a game changer either way IMO
3) The dosage of the Caber it's correct? Don't know


Thanks so much

I hear that & it is spendy & hard to find legit. But from what I understand if you do struggle with high prolactin it is very valuable to have, correct?

I guess. Most prolactin issues are caused by high estrogen. Keep your E2 levels in check with standard AI, and you MOST LIKELY will have no problems with Prolactin. Where are not talking about running grams a week of Deca here.