PEP's TestP and Anavar Short Cycles

[overhandright]

I'm going to be doing five short cycles(2 weeks on 4 weeks off) of Pep's Anavar 50mg ED, Test P 100mg EOD(will front load the first two days with 200mg each day), anastrozole .5 ED along with 250iu HCG 3xweek. This will be done for 2 weeks. Then 1 week of HCG only. Then 2 weeks of Torem. The last week will be free of everything. Then repeat.

Day 1; Starting weight this morning was 220lbs and 11% body fat. I took the Anavar 50mg, Test P 100mg this morning at 6am before my workout. From what I've read I expected more kick from the anavar. Some people have even suggested using it as a pre-workout supplement. I felt perfectly normal during my workout. I injected my right quad with the Test P. It went in smooth and caused very little pip throughout the day. Although it got mildly painful after training this evening, felt like a deep bruise. I also took anastrozole .5mg. The only thing I noticed throughout the day was increased body temperature. This evening I injected another 100mg of Test P (left quad) to start the front load. Going to bed now and will repeat tomorrow anavar 50mg and Test P 200mg in order to front load the Test P. Then I start the Test P EOD.

 

[Oregongearhead]

It doesnt seem like your on for very long , and does your HPTA ever really come back before you start blasting again ? I'm on TRT and have friends that are too , they do 4on/4off and 6on/6off short cycles , but they just use TRT doses on their off weeks . Have you tried this before or just read about it ? I'm curious.......

 

[Beergut75]

It doesnt seem like your on for very long , and does your HPTA ever really come back before you start blasting again ? I'm on TRT and have friends that are too , they do 4on/4off and 6on/6off short cycles , but they just use TRT doses on their off weeks . Have you tried this before or just read about it ? I'm curious.......

Can you stay on a lower dose like a TRT dose after a 12 week cycle? I had a 238 T level and have been on 600mg of test for 5 weeks now. I am getting labs done next week to see where I am at. After that I need to start planning my PCT or how i am going to come off cycle. I have been thinking off coming off cycle with a PCT like normal people do and seeing if my body can rebound with HCG and other aids.

 

[overhandright]

Labs are in. I had blood work done using the female hormone panel from Private MD labs. Results: Testosterone, Serum 494 (348-1197 ng/dL)
Luteinizing Hormone 10.1 (1.7-8.6 mIU/mL)
FSH, Serum 7.7 (1.5-12.4 mIU/mL)
Estradiol 35.4 (7.6-42.6 pg/mL)

 

[overhandright]

It doesnt seem like your on for very long , and does your HPTA ever really come back before you start blasting again ? I'm on TRT and have friends that are too , they do 4on/4off and 6on/6off short cycles , but they just use TRT doses on their off weeks . Have you tried this before or just read about it ? I'm curious.......

This is my first time trying it. I mainly decided to do it because I don't like the long off periods(3-4 months) of traditional cycles. But I would definitely like to hear more about your method.

 

[Oregongearhead]

This is my first time trying it. I mainly decided to do it because I don't like the long off periods(3-4 months) of traditional cycles. But I would definitely like to hear more about your method.

The short cycles some of my TRT buds do is 4 or 6 wks on & the same off .
You use a short ester like test prop 100mg eod and a mild oral like var or winny the whole time , then reduce to TRT doses like 25mg test prop eod with no orals. Then repeat .
They love it and I'm thinking about trying it myself . I think your cycle would work too but I think 4 wks on should be a mininum......

 

[overhandright]

The short cycles some of my TRT buds do is 4 or 6 wks on & the same off .
You use a short ester like test prop 100mg eod and a mild oral like var or winny the whole time , then reduce to TRT doses like 25mg test prop eod with no orals. Then repeat .
They love it and I'm thinking about trying it myself . I think your cycle would work too but I think 4 wks on should be a mininum......

That's sounds awesome. So no PCT with a SERM, they just use low dose Test? Are they able to restore their natural Test?

 

[overhandright]

Day2: Slept like a baby. Woke up really energized. Right quad pip is a little more sore today than yesterday and left quad is reacting the same. But it's not that bad. Just feels like a fresh really deep bruise. This morning at 6am I inject my right glute. Injection went smoothly. Pip was much lighter than with the quads. About 1/4 the pain. Also took 50mg anavar. Then did cardio. It was a little easier to breathe than normal and I was able to go a little further. Pip in the glute was gone by about 2pm. Again today I noticed increased body temp. Also better mood. Trained this evening and felt great. I injected another 100mg Test P this evening. This time into my left glute.

 

[Oregongearhead]

That's sounds awesome. So no PCT with a SERM, they just use low dose Test? Are they able to restore their natural Test?

We are all on TRT for life so theres no PCT . These are kinda older guy cycles so you dont get the increase in BP / E-2 you get when you go on 12 -16 weekers .
Alot of guys have gotten their HPTA function back with clomid cycles years later , but it doesnt work for everybody ....

 

[overhandright]

We are all on TRT for life so theres no PCT . These are kinda older guy cycles so you dont get the increase in BP / E-2 you get when you go on 12 -16 weekers .
Alot of guys have gotten their HPTA function back with clomid cycles years later , but it doesnt work for everybody ....

Okay. That makes sense. I'm only 33 now but I'll definitely keep this in mind for years to come.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Sounds like its going good for you , You ought to see a strength increase from the var at the end of a week 1. Usually the bench & squats get easier.
I heard 50mg PEP var was good to go.

 

[overhandright]

Sounds like its going good for you , You ought to see a strength increase from the var at the end of a week 1. Usually the bench & squats get easier.
I heard 50mg PEP var was good to go.

I'm looking forward to the strength increase. I heard it does happen early in anavar cycles. Based on the reviews from others, I have no doubt that Pep's var is gtg but time will be the ultimate judge.

 

[overhandright]

Day 3: Slept very well again. No Test P today but still did anavar 50mg and 250iu HCG at 6am. I have very mild pip in my right glute, left glute has no pip yet. Both quads were really sore from pip. Leg extensions felt terrible this morning. Otherwise felt good in the gym. By around noon quad pip began to feel a little better. No Test P tonight because I only wanted to front load for the first two days. Starting tomorrow it will be 100mg Test P EOD. I haven't figured out yet where I'm going to pin tomorrow. Last time I pinned EOD I did quad, quad, glute, glute. That gave each injection a week of rest between injections. I was going to do my right quad again but it still has some pip. The glutes no pip but I pinned them yesterday. And my delts have always been extremely sensitive to pip.

 

[jonnybravo22]

Is this only for older guys? Or is this for everyone. I am only 26 and have been on TRT for a 4 months and once I get everything figured out I would like to try a test only blast. Is a short cycle something I should look into or should my first few cycles be 10 to 12 weeks?

 

[overhandright]

Oh and I forgot. My skin has been really oily since I started the Test P and anavar. Could they be causing it? I didn't have this happen during my last cycle.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Oh and I forgot. My skin has been really oily since I started the Test P and anavar. Could they be causing it? I didn't have this happen during my last cycle.

Thats a good thing , the skin oil means androgens are in full swing , I'm constantly oily !! Hair too , you gotta shampoo everyday unless you like the grease look .

 

[CristianoV91]

Is this only for older guys? Or is this for everyone. I am only 26 and have been on TRT for a 4 months and once I get everything figured out I would like to try a test only blast. Is a short cycle something I should look into or should my first few cycles be 10 to 12 weeks?

Yeah unless you wanna shut down your natural test level for life and have to be forced to do trt forever at such a young age its not the smartest idea unless your test levels are naturally that low.

 

[jonnybravo22]

That is what I am saying...I am already on TRT...My T level was 248 before getting on TRT....I am now on 80mg 2x a week for the passed 3 months and my number is up to 696.

So I am confused....are you saying YES I should look at short cycles....or no I should do a regular 10 to 14 week blast??

 

[overhandright]

That is what I am saying...I am already on TRT...My T level was 248 before getting on TRT....I am now on 80mg 2x a week for the passed 3 months and my number is up to 696.

So I am confused....are you saying YES I should look at short cycles....or no I should do a regular 10 to 14 week blast??

Did your docs try other things before Test, like HCG? 26 is really young to have levels that low. Did you use prohormones in the past?

 

[jonnybravo22]

I have another thread in here in the TRT section. I have never tried any other type of steroid or prohormone.

I went to the doc for low sex drive. My numbers came back as 248. Waited a week and came back at 249.

Doc (like most) is only familiar with TRT and not Clomid or HCG and neither was I at the time. Pretty much jumped right on it. Been on for around 4 months and seeing impovements in a lot of things. Mood and sex drive could still be a little better.

Talked to the guys at IMT. They said I could try coming off of it now and trying just Clomid or HCG but it is hard to get (legally) and I could be wasting my time.

I do not want kids and do not mind the shots as long it helps me feel better and have a better relationship with my wife. I have felt like shit and had the symptoms since i was 20 and never though it was Low T. Just stress and anxiety.