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PEPs Bold Ace review

gotPEP said:
Thank you for coming through with the review as you said you would. I love that your pinning only the ace so you can accurately describe pip.
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I've got to tell you that I'm having some problems with the no/min discomfort.with bold acetate. I have never ever heard of it without serious discomfort. Bold cyp and eq, sure,,,,,acetate no way.
You're mixing it up yourself?
 
When I pin my glutes I get no pip at all but I'm mixing it with his sust.

My delts have been sore but nothing bad. Last a couple days and is gone. I'm using a slin on my delts also.

This is my first run with bold ace so I have no comparison.

Hopefully pep can clarify and answer your question. Don't know if my rambling helped any with explaining my experience
 
biggerben69 said:
I've got to tell you that I'm having some problems with the no/min discomfort.with bold acetate. I have never ever heard of it without serious discomfort. Bold cyp and eq, sure,,,,,acetate no way.
You're mixing it up yourself?
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I agree, from all the research I did on bold ace it seemed like people got debilitating PIP or got the sick such as the test flu. I never once saw a post saying that they could manage the PIP from ace. I'm curious as well because if thats the case I want to throw this into my next cycle:)
 
This week was my "heavy" week. I definitely noticed strength gains. I raised my bench, squat, deadlift, and shoulder press. I don't know how much was placebo but the weights just seemed lighter.

My deadlift should have been higher last time I did low rep high weight so that one can't really be considered. Basically I didn't push myself. In all honesty

So far I am pleased with the bold ace and would run it again. Hopefully pep will poke his head in and answer BBs question at some point. I'm curious to what he will say.
 
I pinned my delt again yesterday and woke up this morning with more pip than previously experienced. Shoulder is pretty sore. Not sure what I did differently but I def have more pip this time.
 
jets said:
I agree, from all the research I did on bold ace it seemed like people got debilitating PIP or got the sick such as the test flu. I never once saw a post saying that they could manage the PIP from ace. I'm curious as well because if thats the case I want to throw this into my next cycle:)
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That's why its not often seen. If it's dosed properly the shit is simply too painful for the most seasoned and toughest users. It sounds fantastic on paper, its in the field that the problems arise.
The same applies to tren base. Nobody makes it because if it's to be dosed at a mg that is worhtwhile to pin it's too painful. Astro wasn't the first to think of it and he has no secret to making it not hurt. It's not dosed as he claims or its another compound altogether.
I read one of the members say that to be safe and ensure of no pain with the tren base they cut it with tne? WTF? Do u see how silly that is?
 
Im with you BB. I've heard horror stories of the pip and have been pleasantly surprised to not experience the same with my bold ace. All compounds offered are prepared by me personally except some of the peptides. I wish I could give you a definitive answer why there's minimal pip, but I can't. Im not one to BS and say something just to say it. I would have to "assume" that the praise of no pip should be given to my supplier and not me. I only had to make minimal adjustments to the bold ace when I started making it to keep it from crashing, and when it hits extreme cold there are still issues with it crashing.






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biggerben69 said:
I've got to tell you that I'm having some problems with the no/min discomfort.with bold acetate. I have never ever heard of it without serious discomfort. Bold cyp and eq, sure,,,,,acetate no way.
You're mixing it up yourself?
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I would have to speculate that the powder source may be at play here.

Acetate esters by nature are less adhesive to their parent molecules. It is more likely to find an acetate or propionate product that has free acetic acid or free propionic acid than a product like nandrolone decanoate with free decanoic acid (not to mention that would also be much less irritating)

If a really good powder purity was achieved, then that would be why there is less PIP.

I also would guess the less common a product is the more common it is for the powder supplier to make a worse product (less practice?)
 
Just like biologic said about their pip less prop, they didn't do anything special.

There probably just isn't any free propionic acid in the powder product.
 
weekend said:
I would have to speculate that the powder source may be at play here.

Acetate esters by nature are less adhesive to their parent molecules. It is more likely to find an acetate or propionate product that has free acetic acid or free propionic acid than a product like nandrolone decanoate with free decanoic acid (not to mention that would also be much less irritating)

If a really good powder purity was achieved, then that would be why there is less PIP.

I also would guess the less common a product is the more common it is for the powder supplier to make a worse product (less practice?)
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I'm no scientist and I don't try and sound like I am. I'm pretty sure you aren't either. I'm not trying to be a dick but your above post sounds really silly because of the way you are writing. Worse product?
The more pure a product isn't going to make the bold acetate less painful. in fact, it would be logical to conclude that it would in fact be MORE painful. Does that make sense?
 
No actually, it doesn't. because the impurity i am referring to would be free acetic acid, acetate, and other irritating chemicals. the reason testosterone acetate is less painful than testosterone propionate is that there is less free ester in the final product (usually). the reason masteron propionate is almost always less painful than testosterone propionate is the same; the testosterone molecule is more likely to dissociate from it's ester than the drostanolone molecule.

i am studying to be a doctor, but that is probably not relevant. eventually you will be able to call me a scientist, though.
 
Im still seeing strength gains and I really will run this again.

I did have a couple of sore injections in my delts. If you have seasoned muscles I would say you should get minimal pip.
Noobs or on a virgin muscle you should probably mix with test.

Overall I am completely satisfied with pep and his products. Thanks again pep
 
incrediblebulk said:
Im still seeing strength gains and I really will run this again.

I did have a couple of sore injections in my delts. If you have seasoned muscles I would say you should get minimal pip.
Noobs or on a virgin muscle you should probably mix with test.

Overall I am completely satisfied with pep and his products. Thanks again pep
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I believe u and our report of minimum amount of pain. I don't trust the bold a.
 
biggerben69 said:
I believe u and our report of minimum amount of pain. I don't trust the bold a.
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i do ben, i will be dropping the bold ace starting monday.

i preload syringes so i cant drop it today without wasting tren.

appetite is up and frequent attacks of low blood sugar, increased vascularity. but unfortunately, the PIP is unbearable, has ruined this entire week in the gym and i have had a fever all week (found out yesterday by taking my temp)

chills every day.

really feels awful.

will update my thread once i feel better
 
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