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Necessary to run Caber/Prami on NPP?

IronMan

IronMan

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Hey guys, Im getting ready to plan my next cycle of Test P and NPP and I need some input from the guys that ran NPP before.

Is it neccessary to run Caber or Prami to combat prolactin issues with NPP?

My 2014 spring cycle is :
Wk 1-12: 150mg Test P EOD
Wk 1-10: 150mg NPP EOD
Wk 1-14: 250ui HCG E3D
Wk 1-14: .25mg Adex EOD

PCT:
Clomid 100/100/75/50
Nova: 40/20/20/30


My specs are: 5'8", 32 years old, 185 lbs, 12-14% bf, and have complete 3 cycles.

Previous cycles:
1 and 2: 500 test e only for 12 weeks and proper pct
3: 500 test c wk 1-12 with 25mg dbol wk 1-6 and proper pct

Im thinking about running NPP but I want advice on how they cycle looks and if caber / prami is necessary to run with NPP.
 
mands said:
No need!

mands
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mands, I was reading your "Cycle w/ Biologic Products" log and I see that you ran 300mg of deca.

Did you have any lactation issues? Also what did you use to control your estro levels? Did you run an AI and how much?
 
IronMan said:
mands, I was reading your "Cycle w/ Biologic Products" log and I see that you ran 300mg of deca.

Did you have any lactation issues? Also what did you use to control your estro levels? Did you run an AI and how much?
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No issues what so ever! I was running Arimidex at .75mg EOD.

mands
 
Forgot to mention. My brother has run 500mgs/wk of test e and 600mgs/week of deca with no need of caber or bromo just aromasin at 25mgs every 3rd day.
 
This looks exactly like my next cycle I have planned except I'm going to run bold cyp as well with it. From all the research I've done at such a low dose of npp you won't need caber but it wouldn't hurt to have it on hand! I can't wait to start this cycle in a couple weeks! Gonna get shredded:D
 
It depends on the individual. Just something you need to experiment.

I can last anywhere from 4-6 weeks on a 19-nor without needing anything for prolactin, then at that point I need it. For lower doses it's probably not as important.
 
beast_mode89 said:
I'd say for some its not necessary but its always a good idea to have it on hand. Plus running caber has its perks! :)
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What perks? Decreased IGF-1 levels, hear disease or lack of sleep?

Oh you mean sexual perks. Oh I see now.

I would not recommend anyone run Caber if at all possible. Just my personal thoughts on the drug. If you like it go for it.

mands
 
I recently ran TestE/ND for 10 weeks with no issues, Test was @ 600mg, ND was @ 500mg, took adex (1mg/3d). After 10 weeks switched to TestP/NPP, running it at 50mg each daily. No issues. Don't run that crap unless you need to. I think too much is made of "prolactin issues". How many people do you know or have heard of actually lactating? I can honestly say zero! Could be wrong though.

Edit: I read about a lot of guys with sexual dysfunction though, never had that either. I have experienced trouble finishing things off a couple times, my wife didn't mind though!
 
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So 150mg of NPP EOD, which equals to 450mg/week is considered low?

I had joint problems running adex. Does Aromasin cause any joint issues? I never ran NPP but want to on my next cycle. Just want to get all the facts straighten out first and prevent any problems if I could.
 
IronMan said:
So 150mg of NPP EOD, which equals to 450mg/week is considered low?



I had joint problems running adex. Does Aromasin cause any joint issues? I never ran NPP but want to on my next cycle. Just want to get all the facts straighten out first and prevent any problems if I could.
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It's an average of 3.5 shots a week which actually equals 525mg which is not low..
 
noway55 said:
It depends on the individual. Just something you need to experiment.

I can last anywhere from 4-6 weeks on a 19-nor without needing anything for prolactin, then at that point I need it. For lower doses it's probably not as important.
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What 19-nor were you running Deca/Tren? And what dose where you running them at?
 
mands said:
I thnk he means running it Mon., Wed. and Fri. johnny!!!

mands
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Correct mands! 150mg NPP MWF = 450mg/wk NPP

450mg/wk is pretty low correct?

I read that you need to run at least 300mg NPP to start feeling it, anything lower is pointless. Do that sound right to the guys that used NPP/Deca before?
 
BR1217 said:
I recently ran TestE/ND for 10 weeks with no issues, Test was @ 600mg, ND was @ 500mg, took adex (1mg/3d). After 10 weeks switched to TestP/NPP, running it at 50mg each daily. No issues. Don't run that crap unless you need to. I think too much is made of "prolactin issues". How many people do you know or have heard of actually lactating? I can honestly say zero! Could be wrong though.

Edit: I read about a lot of guys with sexual dysfunction though, never had that either. I have experienced trouble finishing things off a couple times, my wife didn't mind though!
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Trouble finishing things off = longer sessions:D
 
good way to forcast your sides are to look at what your body went through when you hit puberty.....if your chest got larger than the other kids, acne was worse...etc..
 
Caber and premi are both shit drugs imo. If you can avoid using them, do it. Both made me feel like shit, the sides far outweigh any perceivable benefit.
I think most of the reported prolactin/lactation sides are overblown and rare.

19-nor compounds need to be run correctly and responsible to best avoid prolactin issues, in my experience.
 
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