TaoPhD
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Can someone please school me on HCG use for PCT? Do I take it right after my last injection of test or wait 3 weeks?
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man muscle
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I'm on the same boat bro... I was going to do it will on my cycle but think ill just stay with it for pct. So hopefully someone helps us out.
From my understanding an hcg blast should be done starting 14 days prior to starting your serms.
10 days at 500iu ed or 15-2500 e2d or e3 d stopping use 4 days before actual pct (first serm dose)
Here is some info from a local respected source.
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134282373
Hope this helps!
10 days at 500iu ed or 15-2500 e2d or e3 d stopping use 4 days before actual pct (first serm dose)
Here is some info from a local respected source.
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134282373
Hope this helps!
The alternative method is 250ius twice a week.
EnduroPro
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Google 'Scally PCT'. you'll find more than you need to make a decision on dosage, timing, etc. although the timing, best I can ascertain is a bit tricky and depends on the esters used.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Beu40LTd-8Y]How to Reconstitute HGH, sermorelin, or HCG - YouTube[/ame]
I would like to learn more about this as well. any one here use it
TaoPhD
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Alright, HCG. I started this and then researched it and then ran it. Here is what I found; run HCG at 250ius twice a week from the beginning of your cycle until the day before you start PCT. That is what I have found to be best for me personally.
Why it need to use at all cycle? if cycle less than 12weeks need to use HCG?
HCG is used during cycle because your body (LH) will shut down/suppress during cycle. HCG imitates this production and helps prevent testicular atrophy during cycle. Cosmetically, HCG keeps your testes looking fuller while on cycle.
HCG not shut down (LH) ? is not harder to backup (LH) after HCG?(if it use long time)
HCG is not a steroid. It is a peptide hormone. While on cycle, the steroids you are taking will shut down your LH. The HCG will act as LH which in turns stimulates your body's natural testosterone. Some people use HCG on cycle, some use it after there last pin and up to a few days until the start of serms. As Tao stated, see what works for you.
steroids are hormones,yes ? and you say that HCG peptide hormone ?
why steroids shut down (lh) and HCG not do that?
The short answer is that HCG is not a steroid. It is a peptide that is a signal. It acts on the same receptors as LH, telling the testes to make testosterone. It does not act on the receptors that tell the body "Hey, we've got plenty of testosterone!" Testosterone and other suppressive steroids do act on those receptors, and the body responds by stopping LH production.
Google "HPTA axis" for the full details.
UpOnOne
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I've read this before too...I'm on HCG now for my pct, and didn't use during, but during my next cycle, which is just test and eq, I'll run anywhere from 250iu to 500iu every 3-4 days during. Probably closer to 250iu, but I've read before that 500iu may be needed, and likely isn't too much.
Everything I've read says that hcg does shut you down to a certain extent, that's why it's not used during pct.
Also, it's strongly recomended that you blast hcg after last pin before pct regardless of whether you use it durning your cycle or not.
That's what I'm doing, during and then blast.
Just my .02 cents based on the reading I've done.
Also, it's strongly recomended that you blast hcg after last pin before pct regardless of whether you use it durning your cycle or not.
That's what I'm doing, during and then blast.
Just my .02 cents based on the reading I've done.
Gape Van Damme
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HCG doesn't "shut you down" as in make your testes stop working.
The reason why you don't stay on during PCT is that you're trying to get your Hypothalamus to start making GnRH (Gonadotropin-Releasing Hormone) which tells your anterior pituitary to create Follicle Stimulating Hormone and Leutinizing Hormone to tell your Leydig Cells in the testes to do their job again. If you artificially give your Leydig C the signal by injecting HCG which acts as LH, your HPT (stress on the HP portion) won't come back to do their part in the axis.
The reason why you don't stay on during PCT is that you're trying to get your Hypothalamus to start making GnRH (Gonadotropin-Releasing Hormone) which tells your anterior pituitary to create Follicle Stimulating Hormone and Leutinizing Hormone to tell your Leydig Cells in the testes to do their job again. If you artificially give your Leydig C the signal by injecting HCG which acts as LH, your HPT (stress on the HP portion) won't come back to do their part in the axis.
BR1217
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She didn't even do it right. Your not supposed to shoot the water directly onto the powder, damages it. You are supposed to shoot it on the sides of the vial and gently swirl. Bad form.
She looked great doing it though! :drooling:
Well this topic likely will quickly soar over my head but....
Hcg indeed does NOT suppress the testes, it does the opposite.
It does however suppress the hypothalamus and pituitary. I believe part of this is because the body sees it as LH.
The practical use being that the testes are stimulated/not shut down and recovery can be quicker, no dormant testes to restart just
the hypothalamus and pituitary. Now I'm going to bow out gracefully, this is about the maximum reach of my intellect.
Hcg indeed does NOT suppress the testes, it does the opposite.
It does however suppress the hypothalamus and pituitary. I believe part of this is because the body sees it as LH.
The practical use being that the testes are stimulated/not shut down and recovery can be quicker, no dormant testes to restart just
the hypothalamus and pituitary. Now I'm going to bow out gracefully, this is about the maximum reach of my intellect.
UpOnOne
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Scally's PCT has you run 2000iu HCG every other day for 20 days, 50 mgs Clomid 2x day for 30 days, and 20mg nolva 2x per day for 45 days. This may be the only PCT with research behind it.
