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biceps72

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I have been using CEEBIS (a generic alternative to Cialis) from ADC and I really like it except the stuffed up head side effect,

For those of you that use Cialis or generic, what dose would you use DAILY?

I have taken 5 mg/day and 10 mg/day. Although the later doses is higher than recommended I find it to be almost full proof against ED. I have tried 1- 20 mg tablet for the "weekend' and it works for a day or so. However I prefer the every day 10 mg dose

Comments/discussion???

Cialis or a generic equivalent has quickly become my ED drug of choice!!
 
It has long half life and builds up in your system like Test E.I would try the 5mg daily and see how it works,it will take a few days for it to level out in your system.I am a firm believer in taking no more of any thing than you need.....
 
I have been using CEEBIS (a generic alternative to Cialis) from ADC and I really like it except the stuffed up head side effect,

CORAGEON's Comment : Not uncommon...


For those of you that use Cialis or generic, what dose would you use DAILY?

I have taken 5 mg/day and 10 mg/day. Although the later doses is higher than recommended I find it to be almost full proof against ED. I have tried 1- 20 mg tablet for the "weekend' and it works for a day or so. However I prefer the every day 10 mg dose

Comments/discussion???

Cialis or a generic equivalent has quickly become my ED drug of choice!!


ANSWER : 5-10 MG daily depending on YOU. ****
 
I always took about 5 you can even split that up if your not in need of it. check your bp as well. I would get headaches when my bp was high and had to change my diet a little. my wife still thinks im a porn star :D
 
I always took about 5 you can even split that up if your not in need of it. check your bp as well. I would get headaches when my bp was high and had to change my diet a little. my wife still thinks im a porn star :D

Are you saying Cialis can increase blood pressure? I do know for sure that Levitra and Viagra (name or generic) lowers my blood pressure. I am new to Cialis but the side effects includes hypotension wit little t no mention of hypertension.

I realize we are all different but know that Viagra was being researched as an antihypertensive when the erection side effect became obvious and it was marketed as an ED drug
 
Daily dose of cialis?
Isn't the idea of cialis over viagra the fact you don't have to take it every day?

I take 10mg twice a week or so. About every 3 days or so I take a 20mg split in half, and it works great. Been taking this for ~year or so.
 
Daily dose of cialis?
Isn't the idea of cialis over viagra the fact you don't have to take it every day?

I take 10mg twice a week or so. About every 3 days or so I take a 20mg split in half, and it works great. Been taking this for ~year or so.

daily doses of Cialis has been around for several years think?

Cialis has a 2.5 mg tablet and a 5 gram tablet that are generally used daily. I guess the idea was that men taking these doses "always" ready for sex rather than the "weekend pill" of 10-20 mg which theoretically helps with ED for 24-48 hours.
 
Doesn't cialis help with blood pressure it has kept mine pretty regular at a small dose . And the boner side effect is a plus . The stuffy nose is shit though
 
Cialis is a great Nitric Oxide, opens the blood flow, probably the best out there.. I know I've seen were it's going to be the next big product.. Like (low-T).. On cycle under 35years old -5mgs per/d.
over 35 year old - 10mgs per/d.. And it does lower BP. It has a Long half life... We are going to see more on it's benefits soon... Not just ED................AnalogMan
 
Lowers BP..........AnalogMan

Since ED drugs are vasodilators they should lower blood pressure to some degree. Exactly how much probably depends on the individual? I have read 6-12 mm HG on systolic bp and maybe 4-6 on diastolic? Unfortunately I can't find a source for these data??
 
Since ED drugs are vasodilators they should lower blood pressure to some degree. Exactly how much probably depends on the individual? I have read 6-12 mm HG on systolic bp and maybe 4-6 on diastolic? Unfortunately I can't find a source for these data??



Am J Cardiol. 1999 Mar 4;83(5A):35C-44C.
Overall cardiovascular profile of sildenafil citrate.
Overall cardiovascular profile of sildenafil ci... [Am J Cardiol. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI
Zusman RM1, Morales A, Glasser DB, Osterloh IH.


Abstract

Sildenafil, a selective inhibitor of phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5), is the first in a new class of orally effective treatments for erectile dysfunction. During sexual stimulation, the cavernous nerves release nitric oxide (NO), which induces cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) formation and smooth muscle relaxation in the corpus cavernosum. Sildenafil facilitates the erectile process during sexual stimulation by inhibiting PDE5 and thus blocking the breakdown of cGMP. Sildenafil alone can cause mean peak reductions in systolic/diastolic blood pressure of 10/7 mm Hg that are not dose related, whereas the heart rate is unchanged. Sildenafil and nitrates both increase cGMP levels in the systemic circulation but at different points along the NO-cGMP pathway. The combination is contraindicated because they synergistically potentiate vasodilation and may cause excessive reductions in blood pressure. Erectile dysfunction is a significant medical condition that shares numerous risk factors with ischemic heart disease, and hence a substantial overlap exists between these patient groups. From extensive clinical trials, the most commonly reported cardiovascular adverse events in patients treated with sildenafil were headache (16%), flushing (10%), and dizziness (2%). The incidences of hypotension, orthostatic hypotension, and syncope and the rate of discontinuation of treatment due to adverse events were <2% and were the same in patients taking sildenafil and those taking placebo. Retrospective analysis of the concomitant use of antihypertensive medications (beta blockers, alpha blockers, diuretics, angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors, and calcium antagonists) in patients taking sildenafil did not indicate an increase in the reports of adverse events or significant episodes of hypotension compared with patients treated with sildenafil alone. In clinical trials, the incidence of serious cardiovascular adverse events, including stroke and myocardial infarction, was the same for patients treated with sildenafil or placebo. Concurrent disease states, such as renal or hepatic impairment, or concomitant use of inhibitors of the cytochrome P450 isozyme CYP3A4 could increase systemic exposure to sildenafil. Since the US market launch in April 1998, monitoring of spontaneous adverse event reports in association with sildenafil has demonstrated a pattern that is generally consistent with the experience observed during clinical development, with the exception of infrequent reports of priapism. In conclusion, extensive clinical testing has shown that overall treatment with sildenafil for up to 1 year is well tolerated and is associated with a low incidence of adverse events that result in discontinuation of treatment in <3% of patients.







Am J Cardiol. 1999 Mar 4;83(5A):13C-20C.
Effects of sildenafil citrate on human hemodynamics.
Effects of sildenafil citrate on human hemodyna... [Am J Cardiol. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI
Jackson G1, Benjamin N, Jackson N, Allen MJ.


Abstract

Nitric oxide (NO) induces the formation of intracellular cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) by guanylate cyclase. Sildenafil, which selectively inhibits phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5) found predominantly in the corpora cavernosa of the penis, effectively blocks the degradation of cGMP and enhances erectile function in men with erectile dysfunction. The NO-cGMP pathway also plays an important role in mediating blood pressure. It is, therefore, possible that the therapeutic doses of sildenafil used to treat erectile dysfunction may have clinically significant effects on human hemodynamics. Three studies were undertaken to assess the effects of intravenously, intra-arterially, and orally administered doses of sildenafil on blood pressure, heart rate, cardiac output, and forearm blood flow and venous compliance in healthy men. A fourth study evaluated the hemodynamic effects of intravenous sildenafil in men with stable ischemic heart disease. In healthy men, significant (p <0.01) decreases in supine systolic and diastolic blood pressures were observed with intravenous sildenafil (20, 40, and 80 mg) at the end of the infusion period when plasma levels of sildenafil were highest (mean decreases from baseline of 7.0/6.9 and 9.2/6.7 mm Hg, for the 40- and 80-mg doses, respectively). These changes were transient and not dose related. Modest reductions in systemic vascular resistance also were observed (maximum decrease 16%), although heart rate was not affected by sildenafil administration when compared with placebo. Single oral doses of sildenafil (100, 150, and 200 mg) produced no significant changes in cardiac index from 1-12 hours postdose between placebo- and sildenafil-treated subjects. The approved dosage strengths of sildenafil citrate are 25 mg, 50 mg, and 100 mg. The 80-mg intravenous dose and the 200-mg oral dose of sildenafil produced comparable plasma levels at twice the maximum therapeutic dose (recommended range, 25-100 mg). After brachial artery infusion of sildenafil (up to 300 microg/min), there was a modest vasodilation of resistance arteries and a reversal of norepinephrine-induced preconstriction of forearm veins. These hemodynamic effects were similar to but smaller in magnitude than those of nitrates. In a small pilot study of men with ischemic heart disease, decreases from baseline in pulmonary arterial pressure (-27% at rest and -19% during exercise) and cardiac output (-7% at rest and -11% during exercise) were observed after 40-mg intravenous doses of sildenafil. Sildenafil was well tolerated by subjects and patients in all studies, with headache and other symptoms of vasodilation the most commonly reported adverse effects of treatment. Modest, transient hemodynamic changes were observed in healthy men after single intravenous or oral doses of sildenafil even at supratherapeutic doses. In men with stable ischemic heart disease, sildenafil produced modest effects on hemodynamic parameters at rest and during exercise.



Am J Cardiol. 2003 Nov 6;92(9A):37M-46M.
Cardiovascular effects of tadalafil.
Cardiovascular effects of tadalafil. [Am J Cardiol. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI
Kloner RA1, Mitchell M, Emmick JT.

Abstract

To determine the effects of tadalafil on the cardiovascular system, safety assessments were performed on a database of >4000 subjects who received tadalafil in >60 clinical pharmacology, phase 2, phase 3, and open-label studies. In healthy subjects, tadalafil resulted in small changes in blood pressure, which are not believed to be clinically relevant. Daily administration of tadalafil 20 mg for 26 weeks in healthy male subjects or patients with mild erectile dysfunction resulted in blood pressure changes similar to those observed after placebo administration. In patients with coronary artery disease (CAD), tadalafil administration before nitrate administration resulted in small decreases in blood pressure. The resulting mean maximal change in standing systolic blood pressure (SBP) after coadministration of sublingual nitroglycerin in patients with chronic stable angina was -36 mm Hg for tadalafil 5 mg, -31 mm Hg for tadalafil 10 mg, and -28 mm Hg for placebo. In addition, a larger number of men had a standing SBP <85 mm Hg after coadministration of sublingual nitroglycerin and tadalafil 5 mg (p <0.001 vs placebo) or tadalafil 10 mg (p <0.01 vs placebo) compared with coadministration with placebo. In patients with chronic stable angina taking doses of isosorbide mononitrate on a long-term basis, the mean maximal change in standing SBP was -23 mm Hg for placebo, -23 mm Hg for tadalafil 5 mg, and -26 mm Hg for tadalafil 10 mg. In a study of older subjects (>or=55 years of age) with no overt evidence of CAD, the resulting mean maximal change in standing SBP after coadministration of sublingual nitroglycerin was -25 mm Hg for tadalafil 10 mg, -29 mm Hg for sildenafil 50 mg, and -25 mm Hg for placebo. Cardiac mortality rates in tadalafil studies are consistent with the expected rate in this male population. Across all studies, the incidence rate of myocardial infarction was low in tadalafil-treated patients (0.43 per 100 patient-years) compared with patients who received placebo (0.6 per 100 patient-years), and the incidence rate was comparable to that observed in the age-standardized male population (0.60 per 100 patient-years). The incidence rate of presumed thrombotic strokes in tadalafil studies (0.27 per 100 patient-years) is comparable to the expected rate in this patient population. The data presented herein suggest that tadalafil can be safely used by healthy subjects and by patients with cardiovascular diseases. As with sildenafil, the use of tadalafil is contraindicated in patients receiving nitrate therapy because of the potential for significant hypotensive
 
EXCELLENT WORK CensoredBoardsSuck.!! Did you use PUBMED!!

Pretty much similar and consistent findings. ED drugs are not great hypertension drugs BUT they do lower BP some.

I would only add that like any drug action = lots of individual variation in how much BP is lowered by ED meds and how long this effect lasts!







Am J Cardiol. 1999 Mar 4;83(5A):35C-44C.
Overall cardiovascular profile of sildenafil citrate.
Overall cardiovascular profile of sildenafil ci... [Am J Cardiol. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI
Zusman RM1, Morales A, Glasser DB, Osterloh IH.


Abstract

Sildenafil, a selective inhibitor of phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5), is the first in a new class of orally effective treatments for erectile dysfunction. During sexual stimulation, the cavernous nerves release nitric oxide (NO), which induces cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) formation and smooth muscle relaxation in the corpus cavernosum. Sildenafil facilitates the erectile process during sexual stimulation by inhibiting PDE5 and thus blocking the breakdown of cGMP. Sildenafil alone can cause mean peak reductions in systolic/diastolic blood pressure of 10/7 mm Hg that are not dose related, whereas the heart rate is unchanged. Sildenafil and nitrates both increase cGMP levels in the systemic circulation but at different points along the NO-cGMP pathway. The combination is contraindicated because they synergistically potentiate vasodilation and may cause excessive reductions in blood pressure. Erectile dysfunction is a significant medical condition that shares numerous risk factors with ischemic heart disease, and hence a substantial overlap exists between these patient groups. From extensive clinical trials, the most commonly reported cardiovascular adverse events in patients treated with sildenafil were headache (16%), flushing (10%), and dizziness (2%). The incidences of hypotension, orthostatic hypotension, and syncope and the rate of discontinuation of treatment due to adverse events were <2% and were the same in patients taking sildenafil and those taking placebo. Retrospective analysis of the concomitant use of antihypertensive medications (beta blockers, alpha blockers, diuretics, angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors, and calcium antagonists) in patients taking sildenafil did not indicate an increase in the reports of adverse events or significant episodes of hypotension compared with patients treated with sildenafil alone. In clinical trials, the incidence of serious cardiovascular adverse events, including stroke and myocardial infarction, was the same for patients treated with sildenafil or placebo. Concurrent disease states, such as renal or hepatic impairment, or concomitant use of inhibitors of the cytochrome P450 isozyme CYP3A4 could increase systemic exposure to sildenafil. Since the US market launch in April 1998, monitoring of spontaneous adverse event reports in association with sildenafil has demonstrated a pattern that is generally consistent with the experience observed during clinical development, with the exception of infrequent reports of priapism. In conclusion, extensive clinical testing has shown that overall treatment with sildenafil for up to 1 year is well tolerated and is associated with a low incidence of adverse events that result in discontinuation of treatment in <3% of patients.







Am J Cardiol. 1999 Mar 4;83(5A):13C-20C.
Effects of sildenafil citrate on human hemodynamics.
Effects of sildenafil citrate on human hemodyna... [Am J Cardiol. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI
Jackson G1, Benjamin N, Jackson N, Allen MJ.


Abstract

Nitric oxide (NO) induces the formation of intracellular cyclic guanosine monophosphate (cGMP) by guanylate cyclase. Sildenafil, which selectively inhibits phosphodiesterase type 5 (PDE5) found predominantly in the corpora cavernosa of the penis, effectively blocks the degradation of cGMP and enhances erectile function in men with erectile dysfunction. The NO-cGMP pathway also plays an important role in mediating blood pressure. It is, therefore, possible that the therapeutic doses of sildenafil used to treat erectile dysfunction may have clinically significant effects on human hemodynamics. Three studies were undertaken to assess the effects of intravenously, intra-arterially, and orally administered doses of sildenafil on blood pressure, heart rate, cardiac output, and forearm blood flow and venous compliance in healthy men. A fourth study evaluated the hemodynamic effects of intravenous sildenafil in men with stable ischemic heart disease. In healthy men, significant (p <0.01) decreases in supine systolic and diastolic blood pressures were observed with intravenous sildenafil (20, 40, and 80 mg) at the end of the infusion period when plasma levels of sildenafil were highest (mean decreases from baseline of 7.0/6.9 and 9.2/6.7 mm Hg, for the 40- and 80-mg doses, respectively). These changes were transient and not dose related. Modest reductions in systemic vascular resistance also were observed (maximum decrease 16%), although heart rate was not affected by sildenafil administration when compared with placebo. Single oral doses of sildenafil (100, 150, and 200 mg) produced no significant changes in cardiac index from 1-12 hours postdose between placebo- and sildenafil-treated subjects. The approved dosage strengths of sildenafil citrate are 25 mg, 50 mg, and 100 mg. The 80-mg intravenous dose and the 200-mg oral dose of sildenafil produced comparable plasma levels at twice the maximum therapeutic dose (recommended range, 25-100 mg). After brachial artery infusion of sildenafil (up to 300 microg/min), there was a modest vasodilation of resistance arteries and a reversal of norepinephrine-induced preconstriction of forearm veins. These hemodynamic effects were similar to but smaller in magnitude than those of nitrates. In a small pilot study of men with ischemic heart disease, decreases from baseline in pulmonary arterial pressure (-27% at rest and -19% during exercise) and cardiac output (-7% at rest and -11% during exercise) were observed after 40-mg intravenous doses of sildenafil. Sildenafil was well tolerated by subjects and patients in all studies, with headache and other symptoms of vasodilation the most commonly reported adverse effects of treatment. Modest, transient hemodynamic changes were observed in healthy men after single intravenous or oral doses of sildenafil even at supratherapeutic doses. In men with stable ischemic heart disease, sildenafil produced modest effects on hemodynamic parameters at rest and during exercise.



Am J Cardiol. 2003 Nov 6;92(9A):37M-46M.
Cardiovascular effects of tadalafil.
Cardiovascular effects of tadalafil. [Am J Cardiol. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI
Kloner RA1, Mitchell M, Emmick JT.

Abstract

To determine the effects of tadalafil on the cardiovascular system, safety assessments were performed on a database of >4000 subjects who received tadalafil in >60 clinical pharmacology, phase 2, phase 3, and open-label studies. In healthy subjects, tadalafil resulted in small changes in blood pressure, which are not believed to be clinically relevant. Daily administration of tadalafil 20 mg for 26 weeks in healthy male subjects or patients with mild erectile dysfunction resulted in blood pressure changes similar to those observed after placebo administration. In patients with coronary artery disease (CAD), tadalafil administration before nitrate administration resulted in small decreases in blood pressure. The resulting mean maximal change in standing systolic blood pressure (SBP) after coadministration of sublingual nitroglycerin in patients with chronic stable angina was -36 mm Hg for tadalafil 5 mg, -31 mm Hg for tadalafil 10 mg, and -28 mm Hg for placebo. In addition, a larger number of men had a standing SBP <85 mm Hg after coadministration of sublingual nitroglycerin and tadalafil 5 mg (p <0.001 vs placebo) or tadalafil 10 mg (p <0.01 vs placebo) compared with coadministration with placebo. In patients with chronic stable angina taking doses of isosorbide mononitrate on a long-term basis, the mean maximal change in standing SBP was -23 mm Hg for placebo, -23 mm Hg for tadalafil 5 mg, and -26 mm Hg for tadalafil 10 mg. In a study of older subjects (>or=55 years of age) with no overt evidence of CAD, the resulting mean maximal change in standing SBP after coadministration of sublingual nitroglycerin was -25 mm Hg for tadalafil 10 mg, -29 mm Hg for sildenafil 50 mg, and -25 mm Hg for placebo. Cardiac mortality rates in tadalafil studies are consistent with the expected rate in this male population. Across all studies, the incidence rate of myocardial infarction was low in tadalafil-treated patients (0.43 per 100 patient-years) compared with patients who received placebo (0.6 per 100 patient-years), and the incidence rate was comparable to that observed in the age-standardized male population (0.60 per 100 patient-years). The incidence rate of presumed thrombotic strokes in tadalafil studies (0.27 per 100 patient-years) is comparable to the expected rate in this patient population. The data presented herein suggest that tadalafil can be safely used by healthy subjects and by patients with cardiovascular diseases. As with sildenafil, the use of tadalafil is contraindicated in patients receiving nitrate therapy because of the potential for significant hypotensive
 
Great Info: Tadalafil has a longer life than sildenafil and vardenafil..Plus it help the prostate gland over 50..<<< yea, check it out.. It is a great compound, lower BP , you could add OTC zinc, vitamin C.. Or it need to 10mg per/d of Lisinopril... And the best N.O. out there. You got to get those veins open flowing with Oxygen........Good stuff folks...........AnalogMan
 
I am currently on TRT for life long commitment and I have been taking Cialis Daily for 2 months now and it has worked great for me.. My question is are there anyone on this forum that has taken 5mg daily Cialis for 5 years or more and it still works just as good as the first time u have taken it???
 
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