IF money was of no concern...

[OlderWolf]

Hey guys, newbie here, thanks for having me.

Quick and easy question to all the vets out there. If money was of no concern; regarding pharma grade HGH, which brand would you go for?

I'm 33 years old and looking to get back into high gear (no pun intended) after being off for a few years but I have some lingering injuries and ligaments that don't quite seem to catch up with my enthusiasm to get back to growing. I've never stopped training throughout the years but lately I've been increasing my tempo and intensity and my body isn't quite responding the way it used too. I plan on getting back to a return cycle early next year but I wanted to give my body time to adapt again to the more intense regimen. Do you guys think HGH would help in this regard and should I even consider it for my return cycle? If so...which one would be the best if money was of no concern?

Thanks guys.

 

[ScaredNoobGoat]

Your not shopping for cars here but a compound regulated by the FDA. Any HGh manufactured by a big pharmaceutical company will be the same.

That being said, since its volatile and money is no object pay for the HGh made right here in the US in pen form. Pfitzer has labs in Turkey and elsewhere and it's all the same but why not pay any premium to have it fresh, stored well and direct from a pharmacy here? The pens are harder to counterfeit and therefore your first choice. Humatrope and Gentropin are great domestic HGh.

 

[ChestRockwell]

Quick and easy question to all the vets out there. If money was of no concern; regarding pharma grade HGH, which brand would you go for?

There are going to be very few folks who have likely had first-hand experience with all major brands, so you will likely just have folks responding with the brands they've used. Which, is kind of the punch-line in that all FDA approved brands of GH are going to be a great investment, should you have the budget.

Of course, there are minor differences between brands - and even from individual to individual.

Do you guys think HGH would help in this regard and should I even consider it for my return cycle? If so...which one would be the best if money was of no concern?

No, GH really has no unique ligament repair characteristics that AAS wouldn't provide themselves. With that said, a small GH dose, alongside an intelligently designed AAS stack will provide fantastic synergy for things like growth and recovery.

 

[OlderWolf]

Your not shopping for cars here but a compound regulated by the FDA. Any HGh manufactured by a big pharmaceutical company will be the same.

That being said, since its volatile and money is no object pay for the HGh made right here in the US in pen form. Pfitzer has labs in Turkey and elsewhere and it's all the same but why not pay any premium to have it fresh, stored well and direct from a pharmacy here? The pens are harder to counterfeit and therefore your first choice. Humatrope and Gentropin are great domestic HGh.

Thanks for the reply. I hear ya. That's precisely what i've been looking at lately and it seems pretty foolish to spend thousands of dollars for something to be shipped over seas when it needs to be shipped protected, properly and as fast as possible. I will definitely not go that route even if money is no concern. One thing is to have the opportunity to invest in yourself, another is to throw your money away foolishly, no matter how much you have to spare. Thanks for your feedback, I'll definitely be looking into those you mentioned domestically.

There are going to be very few folks who have likely had first-hand experience with all major brands, so you will likely just have folks responding with the brands they've used. Which, is kind of the punch-line in that all FDA approved brands of GH are going to be a great investment, should you have the budget.

Of course, there are minor differences between brands - and even from individual to individual.

No, GH really has no unique ligament repair characteristics that AAS wouldn't provide themselves. With that said, a small GH dose, alongside an intelligently designed AAS stack will provide fantastic synergy for things like growth and recovery.

I figured HGH by itself would't be the answer, usually nothing is. I have considered it as a part of my return cycle which is most likely going to be just test and now possibly HGH to get that synergy you mention. I was thinking 1.5-2 iu and that's about it, maybe 3 after a few months seeing how my body reacts, I don't like to feed it too much at once, I find it reacts better when I ease it into things; specially hormones. Thanks for the feedback bro, if you have any dose recommendations or any other compound that would benefit me please feel free to chime in.

 

[ChestRockwell]

Thanks for the feedback bro, if you have any dose recommendations or any other compound that would benefit me please feel free to chime in.

Growth Hormone dosing and timing has everything to do with the intended use case - for example, recommendations for someone using it to lose fat would be completely different from someone looking to gain muscle. And someone using it just for "quality of life" would be a bit different yet...

Reading between the lines here, I think that a more modest stack design would most certainly be wise as it sounds like you've been off exogenous substances for awhile and are really just looking to get back into the rhythm.

Assuming that you have all other lifestyle variables dialed in, then a TestE + GH stack would be really great for both results and quality of life - a "feel good" stack, if you will.

 

[OlderWolf]

Growth Hormone dosing and timing has everything to do with the intended use case - for example, recommendations for someone using it to lose fat would be completely different from someone looking to gain muscle. And someone using it just for "quality of life" would be a bit different yet...

Reading between the lines here, I think that a more modest stack design would most certainly be wise as it sounds like you've been off exogenous substances for awhile and are really just looking to get back into the rhythm.

Assuming that you have all other lifestyle variables dialed in, then a TestE + GH stack would be really great for both results and quality of life - a "feel good" stack, if you will.

Great feedback. Yeah I have been off for a few years now and I am just looking to get back into the rhythm of cycling again now that I have more time and resources to dedicate to it. A "feel good" stack sounds perfect and I believe it would be the most beneficial at this point as well, i'll research more about dosing for my intended purposes. I have some time to plan accordingly so i'll be prepared and organized when the time comes. My diet and lifestyle habits have always been mostly on point thankfully but I will fine tuning them and sharpening my weak points as I go along. Thanks for the great info brother.

 

[ScaredNoobGoat]

For my own info. What are the guidelines for HGh dosage and timing for weight loss?

 

[OlderWolf]

For my own info. What are the guidelines for HGh dosage and timing for weight loss?

That's what I'm trying to figure out myself but from what I've read and gathered so far from 1.5 - 2 iu's is sufficient for the weight loss benefits, considering you're using pharma grade HGH and please if anyone knows better correct me if I'm wrong. I've read conflicting info though on how to best start dosing. Some information claims to start 7 days a week to get a higher level of the hormone then tapering off to 5 days on then 2 days off. I'm sure other members with actual experience using HGH will be able to better asses that concern, hopefully they'll chime in and let us know. I'm sure other factors come into play as well such as current body fat percentages, age and diet among other things. I'm trying to gather as much information as possible at this point as well.

 

[ChestRockwell]

For my own info. What are the guidelines for HGh dosage and timing for weight loss?

I will take a somewhat complex topic and provide a bit of a high level answer. Essentially, to maximize GH's lipolysis abilities, it must be taken in a fasted state. Literature has shown that fat mobilization rates increase post-injection and peak at the 150-160 minute mark assuming calorie abstinence post-injection.

Lastly, a dose of 1.5-2IUs is all that is required to maximize fat mobilization rates - in other words, you get no additional lipolysis potential from a 4IU injection as you would a 2IU injection.

 

[ChestRockwell]

I've read conflicting info though on how to best start dosing. Some information claims to start 7 days a week to get a higher level of the hormone then tapering off to 5 days on then 2 days off.

There is no reason to take 48 hours off from injecting GH. This is largely a protocol that was likely made popular due to folks wanting to save money over the long run.

Conversely, regularly scheduling days off DOES have benefits as it relates to the potential for intracellular pathways that GH uses losing sensitivity to external stimulus over time. However, it is very likely that no more than 24 hours "off" is required...for this reason, a 6 on / 1 off design is more than enough to keep pathways fully sensitized.

 

[OlderWolf]

Hey guys just a side note if anyone has any feedback i'd appreciate it. My domestic source only has grey tops and nothing pharma grade. The only pens I've been able to find are from my other sources are from Europe and I don't want to risk the investment buying HGH overseas for a number of reasons. Anyone used geardepot lately? I tried to search the forums but all the reviews and posts here about it are from 2012 and beyond and aren't very positive. Are they still legit?

 

[ScaredNoobGoat]

I'm not sure if I am breaking forum rules here but search for hgh Pharma (one-word). I have had tremendous luck and have no problem Las or worries dealing large exchanges with that group.

 

[OlderWolf]

I'm not sure if I am breaking forum rules here but search for hgh Pharma (one-word). I have had tremendous luck and have no problem Las or worries dealing large exchanges with that group.

I'll look into it thanks brother.

 

[OlderWolf]

Hey guys, looking to get about 6-8 months worth of Humatrope (for now but will do a whole year); would it be beneficial or recommended to start the GH now and then start my cycle in early 2017 or should I just wait to start it all together?

 

[ChestRockwell]

Hey guys, looking to get about 6-8 months worth of Humatrope (for now but will do a whole year); would it be beneficial or recommended to start the GH now and then start my cycle in early 2017 or should I just wait to start it all together?

You will get an additive effect running GH and AAS together.

 

[CdnGuy]

OP don't waste your money on Grey's or any generic's if money is not an issue. Wait for the pharm stuff too come in man. GL

 

[CdnGuy]

Hey guys, looking to get about 6-8 months worth of Humatrope (for now but will do a whole year); would it be beneficial or recommended to start the GH now and then start my cycle in early 2017 or should I just wait to start it all together?

You mean these babies?


Edit- Since you need to take GH for a longer time to really benefit. Imo start now so once you start the juice you have already experienced and adapted to the GH sides. GL

 

[OlderWolf]

You will get an additive effect running GH and AAS together.

Thanks for the reply. I understand that and that's why I will be including it with my next cycle early next year but my question was if it would be beneficial or recommended to start now. Either way I'll be running it with my cycle and even beyond it's over and into PCT so I was wondering if there would be any added benefit to giving it a head start since it takes a few months to even notice results even with AAS.

OP don't waste your money on Grey's or any generic's if money is not an issue. Wait for the pharm stuff too come in man. GL

I hear ya loud and clear and I won't. The pharma stuff will be at my door in a week or so if all goes well, so no need to wait that long anyway.

You mean these babies?
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Edit- Since you need to take GH for a longer time to really benefit. Imo start now so once you start the juice you have already experienced and adapted to the GH sides. GL

Yup those exactly the ones I ordered. 72 iu / 24 mg. I got a few of them as a bulk deal so i'm happy and looking forward to giving this a go.

Thanks for the feedback bro, that's what I was thinking too after reading several posts on people's experiences. It makes sense to wait till I see how my body reacts and tweak dosage if necessary and till it kicks in and then add the AAS to make it truly shine and create that synergy I keep reading about.

I'll be getting and posting bloodwork before I start anything to see where I'm at then another further down the line, and so on and so forth. Any panel in particular that I should ask for?

 

[CdnGuy]

Serum and IGF-1 for GH man.....

hGH blood test

 

[GeorgeForemanRules]

Hey guys, newbie here, thanks for having me.

Quick and easy question to all the vets out there. If money was of no concern; regarding pharma grade HGH, which brand would you go for?

I'm 33 years old and looking to get back into high gear (no pun intended) after being off for a few years but I have some lingering injuries and ligaments that don't quite seem to catch up with my enthusiasm to get back to growing. I've never stopped training throughout the years but lately I've been increasing my tempo and intensity and my body isn't quite responding the way it used too. I plan on getting back to a return cycle early next year but I wanted to give my body time to adapt again to the more intense regimen. Do you guys think HGH would help in this regard and should I even consider it for my return cycle? If so...which one would be the best if money was of no concern?

Thanks guys.

My money has always gone into my future so I have no idea what you kids are talking about.