Pinning 101

[Ghoul]

To hell with all these harpoons for TRT.

Shallow IM into alternating delts painless, fast, no subQ lumps, no risk of hitting a nerve, no switching needles.

27g 1/2".

Equally important, a HIGH QUALITY syringe makes all the difference. put the extra effort into getting BD. It's what you'll see at every high quality hospital. Cheap shit feels like a serrated knife by comparison, though it's not obvious until you switch.

Even better, use a vial spike, so you can fill the syringe and then attach the needle, keeping it even sharper.

A 27g BD feels smoother than a 30g generic needle from Amazon, draws and injects much faster.

Let me know if you need help finding them.

 

[RekTest]

To hell with all these harpoons for TRT.

Shallow IM into alternating delts painless, fast, no subQ lumps, no risk of hitting a nerve, no switching needles.

27g 1/2".

Equally important, a HIGH QUALITY syringe makes all the difference. put the extra effort into getting BD. It's what you'll see at every high quality hospital. Cheap shit feels like a serrated knife by comparison, though it's not obvious until you switch.

Even better, use a vial spike, so you can fill the syringe and then attach the needle, keeping it even sharper.

A 27g BD feels smoother than a 30g generic needle from Amazon, draws and injects much faster.

Let me know if you need help finding them.

You got a link? Id love to try BD 27g to compare to the amazon 30Gs ive been using for over the last year

 

[Ghoul]

You got a link? Id love to try BD 27g to compare to the amazon 30Gs ive been using for over the last year

This is the version I use. I buy the 6 box cases, (300 kits) at a much lower price per syringe.

It's syringe perfection. The 1ml barrel is the diameter of a 3ml, but with extra thick walls for zero flex, so injection pressure is reduced, super clear and minimal amount of residual liquid held over for precise dosing. Made in Singapore, not China, when you see these under a microscope cheap needles look like the pitted surface of the moon, and these are polished to a smooth perfect surface.

Even if the pain doesn't matter to you, with less grabbing of tissue, there's less scar formation. Thousands of pins into roughly the same small area and I have no scar tissue whatsoever.

All this attention to detail makes a big difference. This version comes with the thumb activated safety shield, which is a little cheaper for some reason, but I like it. Helps avoid poking yourself trying to put the cap back on if you do that.

They're available in all needle sizes and 3ml barrels too.

BD 305789 BX 305789 Needle, 27G x ½", 1mL, Luer-Lok™ Syringe, Detachable Needle, 50/bx, 6 bx/cs Stocked - State Surgical Supply

 

[Savagesteve]

I use exel 1ml barrels and draw with a 22g and pin delts and glutes with a 1” 25g. I warm the oils up a little bit to make pinning easier.

 

[Avies48]

This is the version I use. I buy the 6 box cases, (300 kits) at a much lower price per syringe.

It's syringe perfection. The 1ml barrel is the diameter of a 3ml, but with extra thick walls for zero flex, so injection pressure is reduced, super clear and minimal amount of residual liquid held over for precise dosing. Made in Singapore, not China, when you see these under a microscope cheap needles look like the pitted surface of the moon, and these are polished to a smooth perfect surface.

Even if the pain doesn't matter to you, with less grabbing of tissue, there's less scar formation. Thousands of pins into roughly the same small area and I have no scar tissue whatsoever.

All this attention to detail makes a big difference. This version comes with the thumb activated safety shield, which is a little cheaper for some reason, but I like it. Helps avoid poking yourself trying to put the cap back on if you do that.

They're available in all needle sizes and 3ml barrels too.

BD 305789 BX 305789 Needle, 27G x ½", 1mL, Luer-Lok™ Syringe, Detachable Needle, 50/bx, 6 bx/cs Stocked - State Surgical Supply

Thanks i just got some i love the 27 gauge the most… the thinner ones hurt for some reason…

 

[3lb Burrito]

This is the version I use. I buy the 6 box cases, (300 kits) at a much lower price per syringe.

It's syringe perfection. The 1ml barrel is the diameter of a 3ml, but with extra thick walls for zero flex, so injection pressure is reduced, super clear and minimal amount of residual liquid held over for precise dosing. Made in Singapore, not China, when you see these under a microscope cheap needles look like the pitted surface of the moon, and these are polished to a smooth perfect surface.

Even if the pain doesn't matter to you, with less grabbing of tissue, there's less scar formation. Thousands of pins into roughly the same small area and I have no scar tissue whatsoever.

All this attention to detail makes a big difference. This version comes with the thumb activated safety shield, which is a little cheaper for some reason, but I like it. Helps avoid poking yourself trying to put the cap back on if you do that.

They're available in all needle sizes and 3ml barrels too.

BD 305789 BX 305789 Needle, 27G x ½", 1mL, Luer-Lok™ Syringe, Detachable Needle, 50/bx, 6 bx/cs Stocked - State Surgical Supply

Got these, they're amazing, I feel them less than I feel my 31 gauge slin pins. Thank you so much.

More stupid questions:

1. What's PIP?

2. I'm nearing the end of a vial and a tiny particle of rubber from the stopper broke off and fell into the oil. Obviously I don't want to pin the rubber. What do I do about it?

3. What's the deal with aspirating? I did a cycle way way way back in the day and was told to always shoot quads and aspirate every single time - OR DIE!!! The TRT clinic told me to shoot glutes and looked at me like I was an alien when I asked about aspiration. I've had meds prescribed IM in my shoulder before, same deal, when I asked about aspiration doc said, "why would you do that?" What's the story?

 

[Ghoul]

Got these, they're amazing, I feel them less than I feel my 31 gauge slin pins. Thank you so much.

More stupid questions:

1. What's PIP?

2. I'm nearing the end of a vial and a tiny particle of rubber from the stopper broke off and fell into the oil. Obviously I don't want to pin the rubber. What do I do about it?

3. What's the deal with aspirating? I did a cycle way way way back in the day and was told to always shoot quads and aspirate every single time - OR DIE!!! The TRT clinic told me to shoot glutes and looked at me like I was an alien when I asked about aspiration. I've had meds prescribed IM in my shoulder before, same deal, when I asked about aspiration doc said, "why would you do that?" What's the story?

Glad it worked so well for you man!

1. "Post injection pain", a catch all term for anything from hitting a nerve to an inflammatory reaction from injecting trash into your body.

2. Use a filter or forget that last bit. Rule of thumb "Your body's not a trash can". 10ml or 20ml or 30ml vials

3. Aspiration is unnecessary with these types of injections, and an outdated concept. Obviously, eliminate large air pockets by pushing the plunger with needle pointed up until liquid appears at the tip, which also lubricates the needle for even less pain and scarring potential. Small dissolved bubbles in the oil are of no concern.

 

[Kiraa710]

This is the version I use. I buy the 6 box cases, (300 kits) at a much lower price per syringe.

It's syringe perfection. The 1ml barrel is the diameter of a 3ml, but with extra thick walls for zero flex, so injection pressure is reduced, super clear and minimal amount of residual liquid held over for precise dosing. Made in Singapore, not China, when you see these under a microscope cheap needles look like the pitted surface of the moon, and these are polished to a smooth perfect surface.

Even if the pain doesn't matter to you, with less grabbing of tissue, there's less scar formation. Thousands of pins into roughly the same small area and I have no scar tissue whatsoever.

All this attention to detail makes a big difference. This version comes with the thumb activated safety shield, which is a little cheaper for some reason, but I like it. Helps avoid poking yourself trying to put the cap back on if you do that.

They're available in all needle sizes and 3ml barrels too.

BD 305789 BX 305789 Needle, 27G x ½", 1mL, Luer-Lok™ Syringe, Detachable Needle, 50/bx, 6 bx/cs Stocked - State Surgical Supply

If someone is purchasing needles separate the syringe do you have a recommended brand / kind? I’m using excel 25g right now but always looking for something better.

Once I run through the syringes I have now I might have to grab some of those BD Eclipse you linked

 

[Ghoul]

BD Precisionglide. What size do you use/want?

 

[Dirthand]

I gonna throw in the Nipro makes a nice ultra thin wall 27gauge 1.25 in. That 3.5 ml will go through in about 45 seconds!! I have BD precision guide thin wall 25 gauge works about the same.. I like the 27 gauge tho..

 

[AlexDavis43]

I gonna throw in the Nipro makes a nice ultra thin wall 27gauge 1.25 in. That 3.5 ml will go through in about 45 seconds!! I have BD precision guide thin wall 25 gauge works about the same.. I like the 27 gauge tho..

Damn, 45 seconds? I'll stick with my 23 gauge harpoons and get it over with in a few seconds. No crazy PIP to speak of and no scar tissue after years of this. Almost exclusively quads now.

 

[zpped]

being from the peptide side of the world I'm a huge fan of pens. (love my BD 32g 4mm)

I'm new to oils but I loaded 3ml into a pen cartridge and am using the BD 29g 12.7mm pen needles. but pushing 0.25ml through it.

 

[Dirthand]

Damn, 45 seconds? I'll stick with my 23 gauge harpoons and get it over with in a few seconds. No crazy PIP to speak of and no scar tissue after years of this. Almost exclusively quads now.

I use to be a 23 gauge user.... no more sir!!! I stick something somewhere every day.. so i use dglutes, vglutes, quads, delts.. have never tried lats or traps... probly not gonna..

 

[Ateam2023]

i use 23 g to draw and a nipro 25 g 1" needle with excel syringe and i use easytouch 30 g for hgh/peptides, i bought a shitload of these so i have to go through them then iwas gonna try the bd diabetic syringes for the hgh/peptides,,,,

 

[Ateam2023]

Damn, 45 seconds? I'll stick with my 23 gauge harpoons and get it over with in a few seconds. No crazy PIP to speak of and no scar tissue after years of this. Almost exclusively quads now.

i like quads myself, once you find "your spot" its hard to fuck it up ,,,, And i use a 1" needle with ease and pain free,,,,

 

[3lb Burrito]

So far so good. Got the pins, got some vial spikes though I bought them before I saw the rec in the other thread. And I've got a question about it.

In terms of dosing, switching needles Just Works. Pull what I pull, draw back and extra .05, switch needles, push out the air, and I'm back where I started.

With the vial spike it seems to work differently. Like I have to pull a good extra .05 into the barrel before removing from the spike so that the plunger is at the right mark once I'm seeing oil beading on the needle. Is this normal? Which dose is the right one, where the plunger is at when I remove it from the spike, or where the plunger is at when I make it bead?

Thanks again everyone.