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[biggerben69]

If we were rebranding or disappearing, orders wouldn’t still be going out. They are. More than ever actually.

Lol.

You Lol? You come across as someone who has been indulged for most of your young life. Its one of the worst things a parent can do to their Son.

Your reactions are impulsive. You'd do better on a board where you control your thread. You can go back and edit after someone in your circle tells you that its a bad look the things you've posted in response to what members have said about your little outfit.

I have no idea why members here would get involved with this kind of trash. We've got men who have been in biz brewing for 10 plus years and longer. Steller reps compared to this mess.

Its good to see you @desertwarrior.

desertwarrior is a guy who has been around and has seen this kind of thing before. He's looking out for you guys.

 

[desertwarrior]

Orders won’t be going out much longer if you don’t start addressing the issues piling up in this thread, I assure you that.

If we were rebranding or disappearing, orders wouldn’t still be going out. They are. More than ever actually.

Lol.

 

[desertwarrior]

Its good to see you @desertwarrior.

@biggerben69 Likewise my friend. Seeing you pop in on us is always a sight for sore eyes.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Jano usually gives a commentary about siloxane peaks, labeling them as column artifacts, kinda annoying, for 170$, i'd expect them to rerun the test and fix it

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Shit, missed the comments when I was trying to respond in real time (should never do that)

Good call, mea culpa

 

[Savagen8v]

EO is not the flag.
China oils do not use pure MCT.

This is Primal NPP, pure MCT.

Janoshik Analytical

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Now we see the test that was posted..

Janoshik Analytical

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we remove 8,9,10,11,13,15,17,19,20,22,23,24
Then we compare with the above..
See this yellow crap?
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Then we compare with Hepius (China oil)

Janoshik Analytical

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Or you can compare against Primal's very own CN GCMS Primo 200 which he lied about brewing!.

Janoshik Analytical

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Hey photon, I fucking appreciate you homie. I'm in the same boat as some of these others. I don't understand exactly everything im looking at. I've watched you on a few forums and honestly I'm here to pay attention to everything you and a few other got to pass on down. Appreciate the knowledge homie.
Let the ball swinging comments begin hahahahah

 

[darkdays]

EO is not the flag.
China oils do not use pure MCT.

This is Primal NPP, pure MCT.

Janoshik Analytical

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Now we see the test that was posted..

Janoshik Analytical

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we remove 8,9,10,11,13,15,17,19,20,22,23,24
Then we compare with the above..
See this yellow crap?
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Then we compare with Hepius (China oil)

Janoshik Analytical

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Or you can compare against Primal's very own CN GCMS Primo 200 which he lied about brewing!.

Janoshik Analytical

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can u break this down @Photon

 

[SmiggySmigs]

And you didn’t experience increased vascularity / muscle hardness / density from the mast? Perhaps the dosage was too low for you? But I get those effects, albeit not as strongly, when I’ve added 200 mast to a 200 test cruise. Much more prominent at twice the dosage

This or 200 / 200 primo has been my "cruise" for years. I always have one or the other in my cycles to prevent the need of an AI

 

[snelly13]

They're typically lower quality oil blends that are likely to go rancid or oxidize faster than the standard MCT used by most.
For me this matters since I've become a gear hoarder and now keep a few years worth of cycles on hand.
I am in the process of transferring and freezing all my previous Chinese oils, but I just really didn't think I'd have to worry about these.

Can you share your process for transferring + freezing oils for long-term storage? Interested in doing this myself, as my stockpile now extends well past my point of comfort for oil oxidation at room temp.

 

[NecroPhil]

Can you share your process for transferring + freezing oils for long-term storage? Interested in doing this myself, as my stockpile now extends well past my point of comfort for oil oxidation at room temp.

I have always heard that most eveything (not Peptides) will last 10+ years at room temp as temp is stable. They loose small percentage of potency but never really go bad. But that's anecdotes. I heard the US military did studies on this but I don't have any studies or anything just what I heard.

 

[Dial It In]

Can you share your process for transferring + freezing oils for long-term storage? Interested in doing this myself, as my stockpile now extends well past my point of comfort for oil oxidation at room temp.

W

Post in thread 'Filtering finished oils'

Dec 6, 2025

One question about filtering finished oil

As many guys suggest me to filter Chinese steroid oil (thanks for advice)
I'm planning to filter my wwb finished oils

when I filter it with PDFE filter syringe
Could it lower the steroid content dosage in my oil ???

• weluvpug

 

[Photon]

can u break this down @Photon

I thought I did, that yellow crap consists of octa and hexa acid. It is always found in China oils. They use the cheapest possible oil which is not pure MCT. The guess is that it's some food grade blend and those are vegetable oils mixed with MCT.

If you look at Primals CN Primo GCMS that was lied about, you will find both octa and hexa in there. Same goes for the Hepius oils.

 

[TRT]

Plenty of members here have touched on anything I’d have to say but I feel I should put my 2c in.

I have a friend who still has oils I brewed and bottles up myself from 10 years ago and they look just as good as they did when I made them. I told him to quit using them and throw them away but sometimes you need something to hold you over till you get your next stash I guess. Lol

That being just one example is why it amazes me that vendors on here can’t get it right in the first place. I used good quality stoppers, vials, crimps and good practices to stay sterile and safe. The results were a product that could be used for years without a concern…I wouldn’t go 10 years on a stash but to each is their own I guess.

I bought 8 vials off of a UGL (won’t say who it is) and after drawing from it 3x and waiting a month before going to use it again the stopper was very very soft and sucked in or concave inward. Very weird and not safe to say the least.

It’s things like this where people allow a source to say “Oh I’ll just replace what costed me $5 to make and charged $45 for and all is good.” Shit just gets swept under the rug.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Don’t show Photon, brother. He and whoever he’s teamed up with are going to have a meltdown.

Waking up to check the boards just to see the ape has been caught reselling more china oils lol. Only the best for his apes amirite.

lol @ this comment too, must of made it before you checked the GCMS. No one’s teaming up with anybody, just weeding out the shit sources

 

[Dial It In]

can u break this down @Photon

Kind of like this. If a source has the presence of compounds known to be used by Chinese vendors then either the source is using these to brew or they aren’t brewing at all and everything is just a resell. Which would explain a lot of the following. Minimum to zero raw testing (cause anyone can buy raws and mail them), different size bottles per batch, the lack of lab pics, equipment or inventory like the other domestic sources have done, the sales and extras are so cheap because buying direct from china is dirt cheap, different color of same compounds but same “batches”. Also you can’t quality control a lab you don’t control. Or they just use cheap shit in all they do and it’s not what they’re stated they do or going to do. Did the last contamination of test p even get addressed or did we get some rant about awesome sales, personal agendas and setting standards? I know the answer. But cheap shit explains the awesome sales too. Buy, don’t buy don’t care. Like what I’ve said or other members have said about these issues I don’t care. This is our fucking board and our job to vet sources because they pay to be here to offer us a product. We do have say in what we want from a source. You want low cheap quality that’s your choice and I won’t disparage anyone that does. Those that want a higher standard to reduce our risk they shouldn’t be disparaged either. I’m here to increase harm reduction and that’s it. If things turnaround I’ll be the first to say great job. But cheap and risk isn’t a choice I choose for my health in a already risky lifestyle.

 

[Alvinq]

Can you share your process for transferring + freezing oils for long-term storage? Interested in doing this myself, as my stockpile now extends well past my point of comfort for oil oxidation at room temp.

I'm just trying to be like @AllGoodThings when I grow up.

Transferring oils for long term storage

 

[TRT]

Orders won’t be going out much longer if you don’t start addressing the issues piling up in this thread, I assure you that.

Hey there buddy.
This kind of shit really needs to stop with sources.
If I was younger I’d open up shop and put em all out of business. Lol

 

[2envy]

Gents - very informative last couple pages but I think it really comes down to this.

These are the inherent risks one must accept when using UGL gear. Yes, things could be better and some of the other sources on this board have better QC but also much lower clientele. The question is, how much of a risk are you willing to accept?

If everyone wants flawless gear they would be brewing themselves or enjoying the valleys of 100mg pharma test every two weeks.

I do think primal has a good thing going but we need more transparency and maybe hiring another representative to post on their behalf might help.

 

[Photon]

Gents - very informative last couple pages but I think it really comes down to this.

These are the inherent risks one must accept when using UGL gear. Yes, things could be better and some of the other sources on this board have better QC but also much lower clientele. The question is, how much of a risk are you willing to accept?

If everyone wants flawless gear they would be brewing themselves or enjoying the valleys of 100mg pharma test every two weeks.

I do think primal has a good thing going but we need more transparency and maybe hiring another representative to post on their behalf might help.

You sound delusional..what better QC? You're buying Chinese gear marketed as US brewed gear.

 

[TRT]

Gents - very informative last couple pages but I think it really comes down to this.

These are the inherent risks one must accept when using UGL gear.

We must? Like have too? No we don’t. What the fuck are you talking about?
In the past we’ve gotten labs to make quality shit. Some of them came back to 1% deviation from their target.
Now we got people filtering UGL gear cause we can’t get a source to make a half decent product and it’s causing people to still buy and then it becomes the norm. After that we’ll have guys on here with holes in their legs cause of dirty gear. Are we just gonna shrug that off and say the member to fault cause everyone else is filtering it even though it’s suppose to be sterile and safe to take like the source advertised?
This is making a shit source stay in business. If members have to filter their own gear then they might as well be brewing it too.
What’s next?

 

[2envy]

We must? Like have too? No we don’t. What the fuck are you talking about?
In the past we’ve gotten labs to make quality shit. Some of them came back to 1% deviation from their target.
Now we got people filtering UGL gear cause we can’t get a source to make a half decent product and it’s causing people to still buy and then it becomes the norm. After that we’ll have guys on here with holes in their legs cause of dirty gear. Are we just gonna shrug that off and say the member to fault cause everyone else is filtering it even though it’s suppose to be sterile and safe to take like the source advertised?
This is making a shit source stay in business. If members have to filter their own gear then they might as well be brewing it too.
What’s next?

Exactly my point. “In the past”. Well this isn’t meso 7 years ago. This is meso now. You want clean gear stop using bathtub brew or brew your own.