Some interpret this blood work for me?

[JonIrenicus]

I got off my cycle 3 months ago. I ran trent/test.
About a month ago I started getting mild nipple pain.
Last Monday I took a shot of Arctic Gear Test and AL's Deca/Mast E (mast E is bunk for sure)
I ended up getting cold feet because of the nipple pain so I stopped my cycle short. Last 4 days I been running Prami, .25 each night.
Yesterday morning I got my blood work done.

 

[asdf123]

You injected, hence the elevated test, and the FSH/LH low. Not sure if you have to just wait it out or restart a PCT, but to play it safe I would do another PCT. I did the exact same thing as you.

 

[JonIrenicus]

You injected, hence the elevated test, and the FSH/LH low. Not sure if you have to just wait it out or restart a PCT, but to play it safe I would do another PCT. I did the exact same thing as you.

I don't suppose there is any way to know if the Deca is legit from this blood work?

Also, should I be worried about the low Alkaline Phosphatase levels and the elevated Creatine levels?

 

[asdf123]

Don't know enough to comment on that. I know if you lift your creatine levels will be elevated anyway, though mine were always in normal range. Who knows, someone else can be more help.

 

[JonIrenicus]

Don't know enough to comment on that. I know if you lift your creatine levels will be elevated anyway, though mine were always in normal range. Who knows, someone else can be more help.

No prob. I'm curious if there is any way to just tell about the Deca

 

[ThunderNuts]

I doubt there is any way to tell abou the deca from your labs. You used three compounds at once.
You seem certain the mast is bunk, so taking that out of the equation, one shot of test and deca could make your test levels 1400. It's difficult to say. What were the doses of each?
I would stay on the prami for a bit longer so that test doesnt convert.
My creatinine level fluctuate often, but the highest I've seen mine is 1.25.
Is your blood pressure high? Mine was and my doc put me on losartan. He says that helps protect my kidneys as my creatinine runs between .99 (lowest its been) and 1.25 (highest it's been). Do you have any previous labs you could compare this one with?

In addition, your alkaline phosphates could be low because you are not taking in enough protein. How many grams a day to you take in?

 

[Spyder]

I don't suppose there is any way to know if the Deca is legit from this blood work?

Also, should I be worried about the low Alkaline Phosphatase levels and the elevated Creatine levels?

Do you take creatine? If you do this will elevate your levels.

 

[JonIrenicus]

I doubt there is any way to tell abou the deca from your labs. You used three compounds at once.
You seem certain the mast is bunk, so taking that out of the equation, one shot of test and deca could make your test levels 1400. It's difficult to say. What were the doses of each?
I would stay on the prami for a bit longer so that test doesnt convert.
My creatinine level fluctuate often, but the highest I've seen mine is 1.25.
Is your blood pressure high? Mine was and my doc put me on losartan. He says that helps protect my kidneys as my creatinine runs between .99 (lowest its been) and 1.25 (highest it's been). Do you have any previous labs you could compare this one with?

In addition, your alkaline phosphates could be low because you are not taking in enough protein. How many grams a day to you take in?

1- I did 1.5 CCs of test and 1 cc of Deca and Mast.
2- My blood pressure is fine. I don't have insurance so I really can't even get my hands on any drugs to combat it.
3- I take 150g of protein a day, minimum. I also take creatine daily, which might affect it as well.

Here is my labs from last year, after cycle.

P.S. After running prami for a few more weeks, is it alright if I jump into my next cycle, some time in early April?

 

[ThunderNuts]

Your gfr looks pretty good, so I think the creatine might be the culprit in your high creatinine levels. As long as your gfr stays above 60 i think it is, you should be fine. If you dont have high bp, dont stress about your kidney functions. It's the AAS and supplements doing that to your levels. Keep your hemocrit in safe range and get bloods done before and after if you can afford it.

The only thing I see that needs addressing is your protein intake. 150g is kinda low.. I'm assuming you weigh more than 150lbs, correct? Increase your protein intake just a bit and you should be good. the standard is at least 1g of protein per pound of body weight. some do 1.5g per lb. I take in 300g or close to it every day myself, I weight between 220 and 240 at any given time.

 

[corageon]

1- I did 1.5 CCs of test and 1 cc of Deca and Mast.
2- My blood pressure is fine. I don't have insurance so I really can't even get my hands on any drugs to combat it.
3- I take 150g of protein a day, minimum. I also take creatine daily, which might affect it as well.

Here is my labs from last year, after cycle.

P.S. After running prami for a few more weeks, is it alright if I jump into my next cycle, some time in early April?

Can't see the labs for some reason.

 

[Dr JIM]

OP you haven't stated your age?

A creatnine of 1.31 is NOT normal period, because although there are a variety of factors in the BB lifestyle which may elevate BUN (Blood Urea Nitrogen a product for protein metabolism) yours is normal.

This suggests your Creatnine elevation is is far from normal. At this juncture a simple test is a "urinalysis with a microscopic exam", get it done and find a DOC who will work with you!

Lastly you injected with both Deca and Test and have "sore nipples"? Since both increase E-2 this side effect is common place.

Finally you don't mention which T-ester you used "last Monday" but considering you also pinned DECA (are you familiar with Nandrolones half life) at the same time, what your surprized your LH is in the gutter, NOT !!!!

Finally since you pinned BOTH DECA and TT nothing can be said about the Deca.

So let me see if I got this right! You haven't recovered from your existing cycle and your asking about one in April?

Keep this up your health may be in jeopardy and you will discover TRT at a ripe age of 40!

Get off the AAS and ensure your HTPA is completely restored before you even CONSIDER another cycle.

Get your renal function checked?

JIM

 

[JonIrenicus]

OP you haven't stated your age?

A creatnine of 1.31 is NOT normal period, because although there are a variety of factors in the BB lifestyle which may elevate BUN (Blood Urea Nitrogen a product for protein metabolism) yours is normal.

This suggests your Creatnine elevation is is far from normal. At this juncture a simple test is a "urinalysis with a microscopic exam", get it done and find a DOC who will work with you!

Lastly you injected with both Deca and Test and have "sore nipples"? Since both increase E-2 this side effect is common place.

Finally you don't mention which T-ester you used "last Monday" but considering you also pinned DECA (are you familiar with Nandrolones half life) at the same time, what your surprized your LH is in the gutter, NOT !!!!

Finally since you pinned BOTH DECA and TT nothing can be said about the Deca.

So let me see if I got this right! You haven't recovered from your existing cycle and your asking about one in April?

Keep this up your health may be in jeopardy and you will discover TRT at a ripe age of 40!

Get off the AAS and ensure your HTPA is completely restored before you even CONSIDER another cycle.

Get your renal function checked?

JIM

I'm 23, I weigh 210 lbs.
For the past few months, when I haven't been on cycle, I went out drinking on weekends.
I also take an EC stack and 5g of creatine daily.

I didn't get the sore nipples from the Test E/Deca injection, it was from my tren e/test e cycle 3-4 months ago. It only popped up a few weeks ago so I figured I'd take care of it with caber.

Can I do some sort of renal test on Private MD?

 

[JonIrenicus]

I was also somewhat dehydrated before the test.. could that indicate the higher creatine serum levels?

 

[Dr JIM]

NO!

Although it may effect the BUN/Creatnine ratio, dehydration almost exclusively alters (increases) the BUN!

 

[Dr JIM]

Here's the point although a creatnine of 1.3 is close to "normal", any level at
1.5 and above is clearly abnormal and indicative of RENAL DISEASE, and your getting very close fella.

Get your urine TESTED!

 

[JonIrenicus]

Here's the point although a creatnine of 1.3 is close to "normal", any level at
1.5 and above is clearly abnormal and indicative of RENAL DISEASE, and your getting very close fella.

Get your urine TESTED!

The 1.5 is from over a year ago, should that still concern me?

 

[Dr JIM]

The 1.5 is from over a year ago, should that still concern me?

The answer to that question should be OBVIOUS!

 

[ThunderNuts]

You claim not to have high blood pressue, but I'm willing to bet that isnt true. If you continue taking AAS and not treating high bp, you will blow your kidneys.
so, while I say dont dont panic.. I do say get that under control or you will be in trouble.
At 23, you shouldnt be anywhere near this stage of kidney function. Yes, dehydration can affect your gfr. It can effect you BUN levels and it can absolutely effect you Creatinine levels. Dont believe me, go to webmd and check it out yourself.
"Creatinine clearance test
A creatinine clearance test measures how well creatinine is removed from your blood by your kidneys. A creatinine clearance test gives better information than a blood creatinine test on how well your kidneys are working. A creatinine clearance test is done on both a blood sample and on a sample of urine collected over 24 hours (24-hour urine sample).

Blood urea nitrogen-to-creatinine ratio (BUN:creatinine)
The levels of blood creatinine and blood urea nitrogen (BUN) can be used to find the BUN-to-creatinine ratio. A BUN-to-creatinine ratio can help your doctor check for problems, such as dehydration, that may cause abnormal BUN and creatinine levels."

I dont know why Jim said no.. but he is definately mistaken on this one.
Best thing to do is ask your doctor for the 24hour urine test. This is much more accurate testing.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Your gfr looks pretty good, so I think the creatine might be the culprit in your high creatinine levels. As long as your gfr stays above 60 i think it is, you should be fine. If you dont have high bp, dont stress about your kidney functions. It's the AAS and supplements doing that to your levels. Keep your hemocrit in safe range and get bloods done before and after if you can afford it.

The only thing I see that needs addressing is your protein intake. 150g is kinda low.. I'm assuming you weigh more than 150lbs, correct? Increase your protein intake just a bit and you should be good. the standard is at least 1g of protein per pound of body weight. some do 1.5g per lb. I take in 300g or close to it every day myself, I weight between 220 and 240 at any given time.

Let's examine these posts, shall we? In the first post you tell the OP as "long as your gfr stays above 60 i think it is, you should be fine" and that "It's the AAS and supplements doing that to your levels." You then tell OP that "The only thing I see that needs addressing is your protein intake."

That seems pretty clear. However between that post and the next one, Dr Jim posted and shortly thereafter, your "advice" mysteriously took a dramatic turn. see below

You claim not to have high blood pressue, but I'm willing to bet that isnt true. If you continue taking AAS and not treating high bp, you will blow your kidneys.
so, while I say dont dont panic.. I do say get that under control or you will be in trouble.
At 23, you shouldnt be anywhere near this stage of kidney function. Yes, dehydration can affect your gfr. It can effect you BUN levels and it can absolutely effect you Creatinine levels. Dont believe me, go to webmd and check it out yourself.

Now you tell the OP "If you continue taking AAS and not treating high bp, you will blow your kidneys" (there's that fixation on gay sex again) and that "At 23, you shouldnt be anywhere near this stage of kidney function."

Now, that's quite a turn there, TwinkNuts. It's no surprise though. I always knew you were just a big mouth punk that hands out BS medical advice you parroted from somebody else - and now you've proven me right. Again.

I dont know why Jim said no.. but he is definately mistaken on this one.
Best thing to do is ask your doctor for the 24hour urine test. This is much more accurate testing.

Yes, because you're qualified to know he's "mistaken on this one," right? Fuck off troll, you've been exposed. You're an idiot.

But do have a real nice day.

CBS

 

[ThunderNuts]

Let's examine these posts, shall we? In the first post you tell the OP as "long as your gfr stays above 60 i think it is, you should be fine" and that "It's the AAS and supplements doing that to your levels." You then tell OP that "The only thing I see that needs addressing is your protein intake."

That seems pretty clear. However between that post and the next one, Dr Jim posted and shortly thereafter, your "advice" mysteriously took a dramatic turn. see below

Now you tell the OP "If you continue taking AAS and not treating high bp, you will blow your kidneys" (there's that fixation on gay sex again) and that "At 23, you shouldnt be anywhere near this stage of kidney function."

Now, that's quite a turn there, TwinkNuts. It's no surprise though. I always knew you were just a big mouth punk that hands out BS medical advice you parroted from somebody else - and now you've proven me right. Again.



Yes, because you're qualified to know he's "mistaken on this one," right? Fuck off troll, you've been exposed. You're an idiot.

But do have a real nice day.

CBS

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