I know this has been talked about alot lately, but I'm curious as to what other members here think on this. First a brief history of myself. I am 28 5' 10" 240lbs,have been training for roughly 10 years and cycling for 8 of them. I have tried almost every combo aside from GH and Slin which I feel are totally unecessary unless you plan on competing. Now back to the original question; how many of you feel it is still neccessary to use say a gram or more of Test when other drugs are included in the cycle? I for one truely cannot see/feel a difference whether I use 750mg or 1 gram when stacked with say 500mg Deca or EQ and say 50mg D-bol ED. Yet I continue to see numerous posts that advocate these dosages, saying "You should always run Test as a base for every cycle at at least 1 gram." Can you really feel the extra 250mgs that much? I have done cycles in the past where I have used in the excess of say 1500mg Enanthate , 800mg EQ, 100mg D-bol ED, and 100mg Tren ED and I cannot (besides worse sides of course) tell any difference in weight and strength gains compared to a cycle of half of those doses. Again, just looking for other opinions out there...
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I was just trying to see an explanation for the high doses as I have tried them in the past and saw VERY little difference other than sides. I still feel many people use these excessively high dosages to make up for another aspect. Whether it be diet, rest, or training. I feel, unless you compete; why bother with high doses? I know DumbellPress said that his sides were no worse than on 500mgs of Test but I can assure you that mine were. The oily skin, acne, and excessively high blood pressure were enough to make me take a 6 month break from AAS. Not to be a hipocrite as I used high doses for about 2 years with the "more is better" mindset. I just did not see a difference that would warrant for me to use those amounts anymore as I was achieving the same results off half the gear. I also don't buy into the statement that the older and more experienced you get the more you need to achieve good results. I personally know guys that have been using longer than me (10+ years) and still make very impressive gains off what can be considered moderate cycles. Again, this is also under the assumption you are doing only 2-3 cycles per year with proper PCT and giving your body time to recuperate. When people stay on for 6-12 months I think they need to use these high doses because there HPTA is all out of whack and have very low natural test levels. I can remember about 3 years ago I did an 8 month cycle where I used 1500mg Cypionate/wk as a base and changed my stack every 2 months from Deca/Dbol, Anadrol/Fina, EQ, and finished with Fina,Winstrol. I gained 35 lbs in 8 months. The best I had done since my first cycle years earlier. However, I could not get my nuts back on line for 4 months and ended up losing 20 lbs. To me 15lbs was not worth all of that gear I had used...food for thought...
