1 Gram or 750mgs??

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[Starkraven]

i'm big on the whole "as much as it takes to make good gains" theory of juice like alot of other guys are. but when you say your taking 750mg of test wasn't there a post on here a while ago that listed the percentage of each test and how much test you lost due to the weight of the easter? i don't know the exact numbers but i could have sworn it was something like 14% for enanate something samilar for cyp and maybe like 8% for prop. now maybe i read the post wrong but wouldn't you be loosing something like 105mg of test if you where taking your 750mg a week thus leaving you with about 645mg of test a week. so wouldnt' you really need to take a gram a week to get that full 750mg? personaly i've never gone over 750mg of enanate a week but when i did bump it up from 500mg to 750mg my strenght and gains did increase so of course i will be useing the more is better philosophy just this once and do 1gram a week with my upcoming cycle to see if there is a difference for me.

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but thats relative because we go by the ones who used a gram, they didnt sit down and calculate all that. sure 750mg test is not 750mg raw test unless you use suspension. with normal esters its more like 500mg, but we go by 750.

 

[dumbbellpress]

i'm big on the whole "as much as it takes to make good gains" theory of juice like alot of other guys are. but when you say your taking 750mg of test wasn't there a post on here a while ago that listed the percentage of each test and how much test you lost due to the weight of the easter? i don't know the exact numbers but i could have sworn it was something like 14% for enanate something samilar for cyp and maybe like 8% for prop. now maybe i read the post wrong but wouldn't you be loosing something like 105mg of test if you where taking your 750mg a week thus leaving you with about 645mg of test a week


Hey there. That was actually my thread. I presented some figures on the various esters of Test. Do a search - dumbbellpress as the author and cypionate as the subject..

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[Crazedlifter]

I guess Ill chime in with my experience here a little since I have experience with very high dosages.
I have taken up to 3 grams of enthanate before and I did see gains but definitely not worth the sides.
IMO 1g of 1 type of test is unnecessary. Actually I just lowered my dosage on my current cycle to 250mg of enthanate from 500mg stacked with M1T and still seeing great results.

Now the only case that is different is when using multi-esters together like sust in that case I could see using up to 1.5g as I did with my best ever cycle which included karachi sust ED.

 

[Southernjuice]

I guess Ill chime in with my experience here a little since I have experience with very high dosages.
I have taken up to 3 grams of enthanate before and I did see gains but definitely not worth the sides.
IMO 1g of 1 type of test is unnecessary. Actually I just lowered my dosage on my current cycle to 250mg of enthanate from 500mg stacked with M1T and still seeing great results.

Now the only case that is different is when using multi-esters together like sust in that case I could see using up to 1.5g as I did with my best ever cycle which included karachi sust ED.

Understandable.

 

[atlmo]

Explain how that is understandable for me, what is the difference betwen sust and enthanate. TEST is TEST the ester isnt going to allow 1.5g of one do the same as 250mg grams of the other. Or vice versa whatever..

Understandable.

 

[Crazedlifter]

Explain how that is understandable for me, what is the difference betwen sust and enthanate. TEST is TEST the ester isnt going to allow 1.5g of one do the same as 250mg grams of the other. Or vice versa whatever..

I knew someone would say that.
Anyway this is just personal experience of mine as well as my buds.
We could take 1g+ of test enthanate which would be good but no where near as effective as sust ed.
Must be the stable blood levels that make it better

 

[Starkraven]

I knew someone would say that.
Anyway this is just personal experience of mine as well as my buds.
We could take 1g+ of test enthanate which would be good but no where near as effective as sust ed.
Must be the stable blood levels that make it better

no it must be that 1 sust ed is 1750mg, not 1g. but of course sust would work faster because of the prop/phenyl prop, at a high dose only.

 

[Crazedlifter]

no it must be that 1 sust ed is 1750mg, not 1g. but of course sust would work faster because of the prop/phenyl prop, at a high dose only.

Like I said before I saw better results with sust ed=1.75g than 3 grams of enthanate/ week.

My point being IMO you can use less test if their are different esters like prop for better blood levels.

 

[Starkraven]

Like I said before I saw better results with sust ed=1.75g than 3 grams of enthanate/ week.

My point being IMO you can use less test if their are different esters like prop for better blood levels.

3g test enanthate? why so much test dude? i think anything over 1500mg is a waste. anyway, why don't you try 200mg test prop ED?

 

[atlmo]

Stark I dont buy into that theory that Prop or other short ester tests take effect any faster than cyp or enthanate. In my experience at least it still takes about 4 weeks for me to start seeinng any effects withh prop.

Do you have any personal experience that says different?

3g test enanthate? why so much test dude? i think anything over 1500mg is a waste. anyway, why don't you try 200mg test prop ED?

 

[Starkraven]

Stark I dont buy into that theory that Prop or other short ester tests take effect any faster than cyp or enthanate. In my experience at least it still takes about 4 weeks for me to start seeinng any effects withh prop.

Do you have any personal experience that says different?

yes it hits me in a week bro, i dont know about 4 weeks, what kind of prop were you using?

of course it will take effect faster than cyp/enth. they take 4-5 weeks to kick in, prop kicks in in a week but results dont come until the 2nd or 3rd week.