10% dht cream

[runway]

How would you make a 10% transdermal DHT cream from this? I would like to make it without DMSO but this probably not possible?

I have
20g DHT
100 ml DMSO 99%
500 ml Pentravam transdermal cream base (special base for hormones)

Pentravan is an oil-in-water vanishing base emulsion with a polymer matrix and a liposomal matrix. Its formulation also comprises a variety of permeation enhancers used to ensure and provide the transdermal release of active ingredients (BOURDON et al., 2016).

PENTRAVAN: SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN EFFICACY AND SAFETY

https://fagron.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/pentravan_en-us.pdf

 

[dafqu1]

with dht if you use dmso only use 4oz at a time with 5-6 grams max anymore than that and it doesnt stay bound until you add more dmso. It also only stays bound for like 3-4 months before deteriorating so u likely wont be able to use more than 4oz at a time before it goes bad. its like 50-60mg dht per ml. thats all i know about it from trying to use it

 

[runway]

Would it be possible to dissolve 10g DHT in 20ml DMSO and then add the solution to 80ml Pentravam?

If not possible with DMSO what about 10g DHT in 20ml BA and then add the solution to 80ml Pentravam?

 

[dafqu1]

all i know is if u go past the 5-6g/4oz ratio after the dmso cools down it doesnt stay bound it crystalizes. never experimented with creams yet

 

[runway]

all i know is if u go past the 5-6g/4oz ratio after the dmso cools down it doesnt stay bound it crystalizes. never experimented with creams yet

I have heard that Alphagels 10% DHT gel is mostly DMSO based, i wonder how they do it then?

Or is there a chance i could dissolve 10g DHT in 100ml Pentravan since it's a special base for hormones?

 

[baxter0312]

Creams are not made by dissolving anything. That's why you're having trouble you're barking up the wrong tree.

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Also DMSO makes creams not work how they're supposed to. Any additive actually is counter productive.

 

[baxter0312]

This is from the pentravam website, didn't take long to find.
It's made like every other cream out there. Are you sure you can obtain pentravam anyway?

 

[runway]

This is from the pentravam website, didn't take long to find.
It's made like every other cream out there. Are you sure you can obtain pentravam anyway?

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I found this too, but i'm unsure about the second step. It sounds like i need to dissolve the dht in something before i mix it into the creme. Did i understand it wrong? How would you do it?

If you look here, they use either propylene glycol, ethanol, or almond oil for the second step. Would any of this work for DHT? I would like to avoid alcohols.

https://fagron.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Fagron_Pentravan-Kompatibilitaetstabelle.pdf

And yes, it's already on the way. You can order it from some pharmacies online, it is just very expensive, like 60$ for 500 ml.

 

[baxter0312]

I found this too, but i'm unsure about the second step. It sounds like i need to dissolve the dht in something before i mix it into the creme. Did i understand it wrong? How would you do it?

If you look here, they use either propylene glycol, ethanol, or almond oil for the second step. Would any of this work for DHT? I would like to avoid alcohols.

https://fagron.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Fagron_Pentravan-Kompatibilitaetstabelle.pdf

And yes, it's already on the way. You can order it from some pharmacies online, it is just very expensive, like 60$ for 500 ml.

Search YouTube for “ levigation” that should explain everything to you

 

[baxter0312]

And yes, it's already on the way. You can order it from some pharmacies online, it is just very expensive, like 60$ for 500 ml.

Mind sharing? I use phlojel which is even more expensive than that and in that graph they’re being compared to each other

 

[Isrrike]

alphagels is a scam lkm

 

[Inthemixer]

alphagels is a scam lkm

You bought from them?

 

[runway]

Mind sharing? I use phlojel which is even more expensive than that and in that graph they’re being compared to each other

You can buy it here, but shipping to EU countries is +15€ and worldwide is + 32€

So it would be 87€ or 93$ for 500 ml with worldwide shipping.

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[runway]

Search YouTube for “ levigation” that should explain everything to you

Could i just use grapeseed oil for levigation and then just mix the dht/gso mix into the cream? Do you think this would work? Or better use propylene glycol?

If i understand correctly, i just need to decrease the dht particle size as fine as possible (with something the dht is insoluble in) before mixing it into the pentravan creme, right?

Can i do the levigation with a mortar and pestle?

 

[baxter0312]

Could i just use grapeseed oil for levigation and then just mix the dht/gso mix into the cream? Do you think this would work?

If i understand correctly, i just need to decrease the dht particle size as fine as possible before mixing it into the pentravan creme, right?

Can i do the levigation with a mortar and pestle?

You are only using a few drops of oil/agent to coat the powder.

You should use geometric dilution but if you levigated correctly and all the grittiness is gone you should be able to “just mix it “

>Can i do the levigation with a mortar and pestle?

Yes, but I don’t recommend

 

[runway]

You are only using a few drops of oil/agent to coat the powder.

You should use geometric dilution but if you levigated correctly and all the grittiness is gone you should be able to “just mix it “

>Can i do the levigation with a mortar and pestle?

Yes, but I don’t recommend

Great, will try this soon, thanks.

 

[baxter0312]

Great, will try this soon, thanks.

You can dm me if you want

 

[baxter0312]

alphagels is a scam lkm

How do you figure? Well we know they sure don’t use a pharmaceutical base

 

[Isrrike]

How do you figure? Well we know they sure don’t use a pharmaceutical base

They got caught scamming a bunch of kids trying to make their dicks bigger when someone got it tested

 

[baxter0312]

They got caught scamming a bunch of kids trying to make their dicks bigger when someone got it tested

Jano tested?

And how do you test creams/gels