14 weeks to add as much muscle as you can - what do you do?

But, 2 RIR or failure? Does it make a difference to gains? Cause it sure makes a difference going to failure vs two reps left.

Try both, it might work better for you, it might work less, it might work different for you vs me. I personally find i make better progress keeping the last set of an exercise at 0-1rir on most movements.If i take all my sets to 0RIR i end up stalling and regress and end up having to deload cuz im overreached. You might be different, try it out and see, like anything. Studies are just based off of averages anyway.

edit: i forgot to add that it also matters how you setup your training program, like frequency, exercise selection, number of restdays. Theres many ways to rome, but something it all has in common is effort, time, recovery and genetics.

If you are scared of taking sets fo failure due to getting injured, i think you need to learn to be stricter with your technique and standardizing your ROM, rep cadence and rest times. I'd personally call you a bitch if that was your mindset,like all these skinny kids fearing overtraining meanhilw they train 4x a week with 6 reps in reserve and never been close to being systemically or locally overreached.
 
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But, 2 RIR or failure? Does it make a difference to gains? Cause it sure makes a difference going to failure vs two reps left.

The literature suggests that going to failure vs. leaving 0-2 RIR is roughly similar in terms of hypertrophy. The literature also suggests that humans are terrible at assessing RIR.

Think of it like this, as the muscle fatigues, more muscle fibers are recruited up to the point of maximal neuromuscular recruitment, which is peak mechanical tension on the muscle fibers and that's roughly what stimulates hypertrophy. Prior to that point there's very little hypertrophic signaling.

So, we can conclude that getting close to failure is critical and that going to actual momentary muscular failure can cause more fatigue and extend recovery times, which is problematic if one is trying to hit 20+ sets per week and each successive set per workout yields diminishing returns in terms of growth.

This is where "science" lets us down. It doesn't know how well we recover or sleep or how genetically gifted we are in terms of muscle growth. I can, for example hit my lats once a week and they grow like crazy. Same for quads. I try to hit 20 sets a week for my pecs and they're still lackluster.

In any case, if you can truly get to 2 RIR, then you'll be fine. If you get it wrong, you won't see optimal gains. This is where exercise selection and training modification can come into play. I think Nippard said this above and it's something I commonly do, which is go to 1-2RIR for my work sets and take the last set to failure. I also pick exercises that are easy to fail on. A barbell bench, for example is not something you want to fail without a spotter, but a chest press machine is fine. Failing a squat is usually a dramatic moment in any gym, but a leg press, not so much.

If you look at how the pros train, they tend to push the intensity, fail often, and even do forced reps to guarantee they're getting the most gains.

Speaking of failing a squat, it's story time:

When I was 16 I was in a strength training program in high school with a coach that was wildly irresponsible in that there was a lot of ego lifting. I failed a four plate squat after getting 3 reps. Rather than spot me, the coach kinda pulled me out from under the bar and I dumped it forward onto one of those L-shaped squat racks that bounced forward into a giant mirror because it wasn't bolted down. The mirror exploded of course. It was pretty wild.
 
Great reply. I definitely know how to go to failure, but I rarely do.

The evidence I’ve seen has “argued” that you don’t get any more gains failure compared to 3 RIR. I’m not saying this is true, just what I’ve seen! Unfortunately down to opinions by looks of it.
The issue with 3 RIR, for instance, is that you can never truly know if it’s actually 3 RIR or 4, 5, or even 6 RIR. That’s why I don’t like using it and prefer to go to failure on everything.


If I’m not entirely certain that I’ve reached 100% failure, I add a second back-off set.


For example, with smaller muscle groups like arms or shoulders, doing 1 top set and 2 back-off sets seems to work better since it ensures you’re providing the maximum stimulus.


Of course, this is just my personal approach—there’s nothing particularly scientific behind it.
 
I wouldn’t place too much trust in what a bodybuilder is doing now at the end of their career; instead, I would focus on understanding how they built their physique in the first place.
JP is consistent with his training methods. What he preaches now is literally the same from day 1 and effectively got him to the size he is now. Sure, splits differ from time to time but the basis still remains.
 
The OP looks like overkill on volume. Remember you should never exceed 15-20 sets a week per muscle group. I did PPL x2 week and it wore me out bad even on test/npp. I now do a modified bro split and hit lagging muscles (traps) every other day.

I train like Branch Warren. Violent sets with mostly stretched partials/no full extension on bench/OHP.
 
The OP looks like overkill on volume. Remember you should never exceed 15-20 sets a week per muscle group. I did PPL x2 week and it wore me out bad even on test/npp. I now do a modified bro split and hit lagging muscles (traps) every other day.

I train like Branch Warren. Violent sets with mostly stretched partials/no full extension on bench/OHP.
Why shouldn't you exceed 15-20 sets per week per muscle group? There are diminishing returns, but as long as you can still recover, we have quite a lot of evidence that gains continue basically for as long as you can keep throwing volume at them.

Recovery is key but if you are properly managing your workload we've seen in some studies gains continue up to 40 sets per week - and it wasn't like we stopped seeing gains after that, the studies just didn't go beyond them.
 
Ok, but I have my doubts he's become a multimillionaire off of it.
Solely off of it? No, he also shills other supplements, his cookbook, makes money off his social media pages, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of turk, though.
 
Why shouldn't you exceed 15-20 sets per week per muscle group? There are diminishing returns, but as long as you can still recover, we have quite a lot of evidence that gains continue basically for as long as you can keep throwing volume at them.

Recovery is key but if you are properly managing your workload we've seen in some studies gains continue up to 40 sets per week - and it wasn't like we stopped seeing gains after that, the studies just didn't go beyond them.
Because one should have a life outside the gym?
 
Solely off of it? No, he also shills other supplements, his cookbook, makes money off his social media pages, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of turk, Ithough.
I'd be surprised if he's made more than 50k off of it.
 
But, 2 RIR or failure? Does it make a difference to gains? Cause it sure makes a difference going to failure vs two reps left.

I’d rather not risk injury and stick to a few reps in reserve in most cases myself. Billions of people have put on plenty of muscle without going to failure. Unless you’re pro, I don’t really see the benefit.

In saying that, I have been implementing some failure/dropset work into my quad and calf work as I really want those to grow. Just for the last set. All out. Does feel good mentally, but I couldn’t do it every set or every exercise.
yeah this is the wrong approach and you just sound like a bitch, nobody in all time have ever known how to train perfect, all we know is going to failure. if you take out that equation you're 100% impairing your gains for little less fatigue which is insignificant
 
I've got a home gym. I do 20-25 sets in ~5 hours split across the whole week. I could go higher without impacting my social life any.

Yeah it isn’t hard logistically even if you don’t have a home gym lmao. If someone goes to the gym they can just increase intensity/ lower rest, use super sets, or giant sets to get abs and calves in too.
 
you are majoring in the minors. find i split that you enjoy, train hard, eat lots of whole foods mainly lean meats and easily digestible carbs, drink lots of water, make sure you have no nutrient deficiency's, recover properly and do it everyday
 
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