I see a lot of guys going through what I just recently went through myself. I never really considered having kids when younger, and my mindset changed later in life. I'll post my experience after being on TRT for 15 years and being essentially azoospermia. Everyone is different, but this is what worked for me and hopefully can put some other guys on the right track or at least give them some info.
From my personal experience huge doses of HCG aren't needed especially when using HMG which will do most of the work for getting sperm count up. Huge doses of HCG cause a lot of hormonal fluctuations with E2 etc which can make people feel pretty bad, and I believe it's better to spread it out over the week daily or EOD minimum.
My protocol was:
70mg Test / week (Dosed EOD)
HCG 200iu / day
HMG 75iu 2 x week
Later I bumped test up to 87.5mg and added primo at 70mg. (I did start with primo too high which crushed my E2 then I adjusted down to 70mg which worked perfectly.) The first 4-5 months I didn't use any Primo with this protocol and while E2 was slightly high it wasn't causing symptoms after giving 5-6 weeks for my body to adjust.
This protocol resulted in pregnancy within about 5-6 months. No AI's needed, and I always thought I was someone super sensitive to estrogen as well. The biggest factor is injecting frequency I found. EOD or even ED injections make a world of difference and spreading the HCG out into smaller doses each day makes E2 much more manageable, at least for me.
When first starting things like HCG or changing your dose on Test etc you may get some E2 symptoms, but I've found that was more related to the hormonal fluctuations than the actual E2 and your body just needs 5-6 weeks to adjust. Having a knee jerk reaction and taking AI's just results in a whole lot of other problems is what I've found over many years of trial and error.
Couple of factors to consider. HMG is very expensive at least in my country if going through a doctor and most insurance companies won't pay for it. If you do use it from an online source it's hard to test quality and may be best to order from a couple trusted sources and use both to cover your bases. This is just opinion based and what worked for me.
From my personal experience huge doses of HCG aren't needed especially when using HMG which will do most of the work for getting sperm count up. Huge doses of HCG cause a lot of hormonal fluctuations with E2 etc which can make people feel pretty bad, and I believe it's better to spread it out over the week daily or EOD minimum.
My protocol was:
70mg Test / week (Dosed EOD)
HCG 200iu / day
HMG 75iu 2 x week
Later I bumped test up to 87.5mg and added primo at 70mg. (I did start with primo too high which crushed my E2 then I adjusted down to 70mg which worked perfectly.) The first 4-5 months I didn't use any Primo with this protocol and while E2 was slightly high it wasn't causing symptoms after giving 5-6 weeks for my body to adjust.
This protocol resulted in pregnancy within about 5-6 months. No AI's needed, and I always thought I was someone super sensitive to estrogen as well. The biggest factor is injecting frequency I found. EOD or even ED injections make a world of difference and spreading the HCG out into smaller doses each day makes E2 much more manageable, at least for me.
When first starting things like HCG or changing your dose on Test etc you may get some E2 symptoms, but I've found that was more related to the hormonal fluctuations than the actual E2 and your body just needs 5-6 weeks to adjust. Having a knee jerk reaction and taking AI's just results in a whole lot of other problems is what I've found over many years of trial and error.
Couple of factors to consider. HMG is very expensive at least in my country if going through a doctor and most insurance companies won't pay for it. If you do use it from an online source it's hard to test quality and may be best to order from a couple trusted sources and use both to cover your bases. This is just opinion based and what worked for me.
