16 week Cutting Cycle, EQ + Masteron + Testo

ForemanRules said:
I have read some medical studies that say it is true,,,,,but I could care less. I know from experience it is true or just non effective after 8-10 weeks.....unless you up the dose big time or change drugs.....either way long cycles ( 12+) are 95% of the time an act of desperation by people with a bad deit , poor training and crap genetics.

Hmm, does this include the Testosterone?

I geuss I could just swtich from Test, EQ and Masteron to Trenbolone, Fast Deca and Winstrol after week 8...

Right now I am doing shoots every third day:

250mg Sustanon (580mg/week)
100mg Masteron (230mg/week)
100mg EQ (230mg/week)

later I could finish of with every third day:

100mg Tren (230mg/week)
100mg Deca (230mg/week)
100mg Winstrol (230mg/week)

What do you think, the problem is that I will have no libido I geuss...and also this one would be much harder on my liver.

Deacon, what do you mean I will know with the Masteon? I am using it right now, feel great... tell me!!! :D
 
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Deacon loves Masteron. It's a good steroid. I have used it, too, and I like it. I prefer to use it when I'm strictly cutting and in a severe calorie depletion. It helps me have aggression to fuel workouts when I'm otherwise not prepared (mentally) to lift.
 
Beefy said:
Deacon loves Masteron. It's a good steroid. I have used it, too, and I like it. I prefer to use it when I'm strictly cutting and in a severe calorie depletion. It helps me have aggression to fuel workouts when I'm otherwise not prepared (mentally) to lift.

Yeah, the agression is sure there. But I feel so damn happy on it. I remember that I was more grumpy when I was on only testo, maybe it is because of the elevated free testo or bacause of the decrese in estrogen, or bacause in the extra DHT. It is very good whatever it is. :)
 
Sheki said:
Hmm, does this include the Testosterone?

I geuss I could just swtich from Test, EQ and Masteron to Trenbolone, Fast Deca and Winstrol after week 8...

Right now I am doing shoots every third day:

250mg Sustanon (580mg/week)
100mg Masteron (230mg/week)
100mg EQ (230mg/week)

later I could finish of with every third day:

100mg Tren (230mg/week)
100mg Deca (230mg/week)
100mg Winstrol (230mg/week)

What do you think, the problem is that I will have no libido I geuss...and also this one would be much harder on my liver.

Deacon, what do you mean I will know with the Masteon? I am using it right now, feel great... tell me!!! :D
I would have Test or Masteron in the entire cycle.....You can run one the first half and the other the last half.....or just run Test the entire 16 weeks..

Like I said receptor downgrade is not a fact....it's just a theory some believe....and you can bet their has been very very actual research done to support either side..
 
ForemanRules said:
I would have Test or Masteron in the entire cycle.....You can run one the first half and the other the last half.....or just run Test the entire 16 weeks..

Like I said receptor downgrade is not a fact....it's just a theory some believe....and you can bet their has been very very actual research done to support either side..

Yeah... I will, Test and Masteron all the way baby... I can just switch from EQ to Deca I geuss. :)

Foremanrules, why do you like Foreman? He got beaten by Ali, but he made a great comeback. What do you think they were on? Foreman was a big mofo and strong as hell! Maybe both were natural, but I don't think so.
 
Sheki said:
Yeah... I will, Test and Masteron all the way baby... I can just switch from EQ to Deca I geuss. :)

Foremanrules, why do you like Foreman? He got beaten by Ali, but he made a great comeback. What do you think they were on? Foreman was a big mofo and strong as hell! Maybe both were natural, but I don't think so.
#1: He reinvented him self and changed his life...in a good way
#2: He is the oldest man to become the Heavy Weight champ....at 45.
#3: He lost to Ali and tried for 3 1/2 years to get a re-match...Ali was terrified of him and wouldnt give it to him.
#4: I believe George never used steroids, and that Holyfield and Tommy Morison were gassed up like hell ( Tommy admited to using steroids years later) ....makes George even better in my book...try to fight a 27 year old gassed up top 5 heavy weight when you are 42 and natural....
 
ForemanRules said:
I have read some medical studies that say it is true,,,,,but I could care less. I know from experience it is true or just non effective after 8-10 weeks.....unless you up the dose big time or change drugs.....either way long cycles ( 12+) are 95% of the time an act of desperation by people with a bad deit , poor training and crap genetics.


and there have been recent studies that say otherwise - but personally I dont believe it happens

unless you want to suggest that the body adapting to a drug is receptor saturation or downgrade

but I highly agree with you that high dose useage is very often due to being lazy and poor diet/training - that is the reason most guys start gear to begin with - because they dont know how to train or eat
 

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