1st cycle advice

[FuckinNoob]

Hello, I’m new to the forum and looking to do a mild beginner’s cycle.

I’m 6’1, 185 (~12-14% bf), 25 years old. I’ve been training natty for about 2.5-3 years now- started at 150lbs (lol), bulked to 220 aka got fat, then cut to 185.

My goals are aesthetics, I don’t give a shit about being strong. Just hoping to speed up reaching my “genetic potential” while staying relatively lean.

My plan as of now is to go with 300mg test for 16wks. I’m debating whether I should add Anavar 25mg ED for the last 4 weeks (already ordered it, planned on doing a var only cycle but learned from a lot of y’all that it’s mostly pointless and/or retarded).

PCT plan is 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex. Going to have AI on hand, even though I hear under 500mg test most people don’t need it.

I guess my question is, does this sound like a solid plan? And am I forgetting anything that I might need? I know a lot of people use HCG, but is that really necessary if I’m going to cycle off and pct?

Let me know what y’all think

 

[T&H]

Hello, I’m new to the forum and looking to do a mild beginner’s cycle.

I’m 6’1, 185 (~12-14% bf), 25 years old. I’ve been training natty for about 2.5-3 years now- started at 150lbs (lol), bulked to 220 aka got fat, then cut to 185.

My goals are aesthetics, I don’t give a shit about being strong. Just hoping to speed up reaching my “genetic potential” while staying relatively lean.

My plan as of now is to go with 300mg test for 16wks. I’m debating whether I should add Anavar 25mg ED for the last 4 weeks (already ordered it, planned on doing a var only cycle but learned from a lot of y’all that it’s mostly pointless and/or retarded).

PCT plan is 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex. Going to have AI on hand, even though I hear under 500mg test most people don’t need it.

I guess my question is, does this sound like a solid plan? And am I forgetting anything that I might need? I know a lot of people use HCG, but is that really necessary if I’m going to cycle off and pct?

Let me know what y’all think

Some might say 300 is good, but I'd recommend 400 to 500 test. Get the most out of your first cycle. Anavar at end sounds good. I can't speak on hcg, but your ai and pct are ok. Some might recommend clomid with the nolva.

Biggest mistake people make on cycle, not eating enough. You need to make sure you take in enough calories and protein to support growth. Bloodwork around week 5, see where numbers and estrogen are.

 

[Fredy]

300mg a week for 12 weeks is a good first cycle. I read so many stories about people who get ED and other problems on a first cycle over 400mg.
You should really post your bloods so we can see what you are starting with.

Just go with 300mg and save the anavar for the second cycle.

 

[T&H]

300mg a week for 12 weeks is a good first cycle. I read so many stories about people who get ED and other problems on a first cycle over 400mg.
You should really post your bloods so we can see what you are starting with.

Just go with 300mg and save the anavar for the second cycle.

ED on 500mg test cycle? Please by all means, link me to some of these posts. LMAO.

 

[Fredy]

ED on 500mg test cycle? Please by all means, link me to some of these posts. LMAO.

It’s all over the internet, Facebook and forums like this.
If you want to get really technical about it people are getting ED on trt. That’s under 175mg a week. If you are lucky enough to be able to blast over 500mg testosterone a week with no sides then go for it.
Not everyone can go on trt without getting ED problems. But you really should know all this if you did research about hormones.

Good luck with the little knowledge you have

 

[Bravo]

Some might say 300 is good, but I'd recommend 400 to 500 test. Get the most out of your first cycle. Anavar at end sounds good. I can't speak on hcg, but your ai and pct are ok. Some might recommend clomid with the nolva.

Biggest mistake people make on cycle, not eating enough. You need to make sure you take in enough calories and protein to support growth. Bloodwork around week 5, see where numbers and estrogen are.

I second this. Eating is insanely important, especially getting that protein in daily.

 

[buzzingonaas]

My first cycle was 350mg test cyp, 30mg anavar last 6 weeks. Was a great cycle unfortunately I was stupid and decided to cut. Still packed on a good bit of muscle and lost a ton of fat, but would likely have had better results from bulking. I had no side effects/aromatization, and blood markers looked great after a 16 week cycle.

 

[Shivathedestroyer]

I think 300mg is a great first cycle. It’s always good to start with the minimum effective dose, your older self will thank you. The biggest thing is just making sure your training diet and recovery are on point. Most people emphasize the gear way way too much and at the end of the day you probably will not notice any less progress starting with 300mg as opposed to 500mg.

I think 500mg is a lot of test, especially for a first cycle and there’s really no need for that. The days where everyone just starts running 500mg of test are behind us as we have gained more knowledge about how to safely run anabolic compounds.

Keeping the test a bit lower and adding in a dht compound like mast or primo is also something we are seeing a lot more these days when it comes to safely utilizing peds.

I think 300 test is a good first cycle and then for a second cycle consider adding in a low dose of mast or primo and this is also a good way to keep the need for an AI out of the equation.

Some guys right off the bat running 500mg of test will end up with a lot more estrogen conversion than they may like. So instead of 500test + an ai something like I mentioned above may be a better option if we are thinking about structuring the cycle to mitigate side effects and the need for ancillaries and to keep health markers in check.

 

[MrFreeze74]

When you do 300mg a week should you break it into two shots of 150mg?

 

[SunnyInAZ]

When you do 300mg a week should you break it into two shots of 150mg?

Minimum 2 doses a week. IMO, every other day is better and pinning every day is best to keep your levels as steady as possible for less side effects. Unless your on cruise/TRT dose then every day is too small a dose and can be easy to over shoot your dose.