1st Cycle Plan / Log

[HuckingFuge]

Please do inform me on your understanding. I'd like to hear it.

your body can store carbs in muscle and store carbs as fat for later, your body can store fat. your body breaks down protein into amino acids and your muscle sucks them up, but your body does not convert amino acids into fat for later. your body will use carbs or fat for energy, carbs being the easiest to use at first, but than it will go after muscle, and when the muscle is used up it will finally use the fat. if your body stored amino acids we would never be in a catabolic state. I hope I explained that well. I'll be honest I'm not the best at explaining what I know.

 

[boxcar]

your body can store carbs in muscle and store carbs as fat for later, your body can store fat. your body breaks down protein into amino acids and your muscle sucks them up, but your body does not convert amino acids into fat for later. your body will use carbs or fat for energy, carbs being the easiest to use at first, but than it will go after muscle, and when the muscle is used up it will finally use the fat. if your body stored amino acids we would never be in a catabolic state. I hope I explained that well. I'll be honest I'm not the best at explaining what I know.

But doesn't the body convert excess proteins into sugars/glucose and then either stored into the muscle or fat? I haven't read up on this in awhile, but excess protein is converted into glucose? which is why high protein on keto diet works agaisnt you?

 

[HuckingFuge]

But doesn't the body convert excess proteins into sugars/glucose and then either stored into the muscle or fat? I haven't read up on this in awhile, but excess protein is converted into glucose? which is why high protein on keto diet works agaisnt you?

no protein is converted to amino acids. never heard high protein works against you while doing keto diets. if protein turned to glucose you could never reach ketosis.

 

[boxcar]

no protein is converted to amino acids. never heard high protein works against you while doing keto diets. if protein turned to glucose you could never reach ketosis.

hmm...maybe I need to read up on Anabolic diet and keto diets more. Anyone else chime in on this?

Sorry to OP for hijacking thread.

 

[weighted chinup]

Protein can get converted to glucose if/when needed through gluconeogenesis (GNG).

GNG still takes place when you are in Ketosis, your body still needs certain levels of blood glucose to function.

I have seem some evidence which suggests that GNG is demand-driven rather than supply driven, but I have heard from many sources that excess protein kicks you out of ketosis as well. Honestly if you keep protein at a reasonable intake you should be fine.

You are going to have to experiment on yourself to find out I suppose...

 

[Eloquence]

The majority of studies show that in natural bodybuiliding athletes growth or maintenance of LBM is maintained with .75g of protein per lb of bodyweight.

Now when someone is on gear their protein sysnthesis rate increases so shit changes.

for ketosis it all depends on the macros. if you vary much from 35/60/5 with too much protein the body will break it down for glucose; kicking you out of ketosis.

keeping the right balance however the body will use FAT FOR ENERGY.

Only someone on gear and with an amazing metabolism should ever have 300g protein a day.