20 tbsp. dextrose for post shake?!

[MACHI]

Isn't this whole debate missing the main point of taking a little sugar/simple carbs pre,during,post workout anyway? Who cares of its effect on GH for a transient period of time one way or the other. Insulin will benifit you more in the acute recovery period after a workout more than GH anyways..... Thats the whole carbohydrate timing thing.....I don't understand why this thread was so heated.

As far as an answer to your question -- I always thought a 3:1 or 4:1 ration +-15minutes of and during your workout.....

 

[Bob Smith]

Mach, that was exactly the point I was trying to get across. Maybe I didnt state it clearly enough.

 

[J DUB]

It would be nice if Dr. Tom Incledon could post on here. He is quite the authority on such matters, but even he is usually relectant to give precise ratios for pre/post workout nutrition. His website www.thomasincledon.com might have some more info, and I think he makes himself available for consultation, although I do not know the cost. Look around on here and see if there is anything interesting.

At the end of the day, you can go with a 2:1, 3:1 ratio, even 2.227:1.369...whatever. If you truly believe that such an issue will help you gain 20lbs of muscle in the next year then you are much less a skeptic than I am.

I understand that the point of such a debate is because one wishes to maximize his hypertrophic potential, but IMO all of us would be better off spending time reading more about strength training and stop worrying so much about what is IMO inconsequential minutia.

 

[MACHI]

Mach, that was exactly the point I was trying to get across. Maybe I didnt state it clearly enough.

Yeah, I figured that but I didn't read all the posts. Just about half and then did a keyword search for insulin and couldn't find anything...

P.S. Let me know if you guys need papers and such.. I'm a biochem major and I have access to some of the most comprehensive database archives for scientific journals out there.... ex. sci-finder scholar. and so on.... It would take me 2 seconds to do a search and send the PDF.