250mg too 500mg

I don’t “feel” any different running 500 vs 250. Quite honestly it’s still a marathon not a sprint. You won’t notice the gains as much as everyone else around you will. Take before and after pictures or body dysmorphia will mess with your head. Estrogen management is the hardest part for most men. I tend to stack it with primo or eq so I don’t have as hard of a time trying to dose aromasin, but I’d still run it solo the first time and get frequent blood work to see if something like that would even be necessary. You can make solid gains on test only and it’s got a way better safety profile than anything else.
 

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hey, my bad for being as ass for no reason in the above comment,

so I dont have reports, because i never got my pharma HGH tested,

apart from pharma grade GH from my own country india (pic below), I have 10 iu and a 36 IU kit from a chinese vendor

i dont use HGH anymore, (think nobody should anymore that we have Reta) from what from jano said in the interview that they mostly have Pharma grade HGH in range of 96-99% AND it is permisible by law that they are allowed to have as low as 91% batch purity and upto 4% dimer.

in india, You get 1.2$ per IU for pharma vs 0.5 $ per IU chinese




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i was talking to a vendor about their low purity batches and they said this and i only regurgitated


This is well known and causes a common misconception that UGL HGH is just as good as pharma HGH because the purity of UGH is oftentimes higher than pharma.

Pharma HGH has excipients added to help buffer PH, which helps mitigate protein degradation, reducing aggregates and thereby immunogenicity. I haven't heard of any UGL vendors mention that they're adding excipients to keep HGH at the ideal PH levels. A move away from ideal PH will greatly impact degradation.

IMO this is why people will report experiencing less "dirty" side effects using pharma HGH compared to UGL HGH.
 
Waiting for someone to educate me
GLPs make you eat less. They dont really burn fat. 50% of the insulin sensitivity is just eating less/digesting slower.
The glucagon from reta burns fewer/the same calories than 4mg albuterol/day with your cardio.
None of them help mobilize free fatty acids like rHGH or Beta2 agonists do.

Now back to the Thread:
Curtrent Topic (re Testosterone):

250mg too 500mg​

upping your test into non-clinical dosages can impact E2, which in turn might impact yoru libido positively (if you are a low aromatizer libido and satisfaction will increase going from 250 to 500) or mess you up if you convert a lot of test to E2 (ED, lower satisfaction, libido, emotional distress/ lots of crying, etc. when I was doing my frontload with Test D and switched to Cyp i was taking 500 test+ some EQ for a while and I was a crybaby. only time in my life I ever watched romance movies with my girl and genuinely cried).
If you do other steroids the effects will vary, obviously, and sides will be different.


Do your bloodwork, write down your feelings at your E2 level to look back later, and take Exemestane or another AI if needed.
 
hey, my bad for being as ass for no reason in the above comment,

so I dont have reports, because i never got my pharma HGH tested,

apart from pharma grade GH from my own country india (pic below), I have 10 iu and a 36 IU kit from a chinese vendor

How strict are the laws for vendors selling these rx products? I'm honestly surprised how IndiaMart exists lol
 
How strict are the laws for vendors selling these rx products? I'm honestly surprised how IndiaMart exists lol

absolutely no regulations, My gymmate is 18 weeks out and bought 2 years worth of Test E and 20 weeks worth Primo from a medical shop like an OTC product.

same for HGH,

schedule X drugs (psychotropic substance with addiction potential) are heavily regulated though, everything else is almost OTC unofficially.




my nephew cant get Methylphenidate for his ADHD without regular doctor's prescription but i can buy Tren Pharma grade like candy,
Shops even deliver to home.

this vendor even supplies internationally if wish to avoid buying UGL gear, google "demegaformulations"

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250mg to 500mg can take between 4-6 weeks depends on how you personally metabolize the ester chain other than that I guess if it’s your first cycle you might feel slight difference from the jump in the test dose me personally after so many years on gear I don’t feel anything sometimes I go do blood work only to make sure that my gear is not bunk ..
Tren is the only devil that I can feel..
185mg - 850mg test e/p feels the same..
 
How old are you mate ?

What do you think you gonna feel ?
( What have you been reading )

I may disappoint you - but I don't really feel that much, except when I go on the harsher/higher side, then I just feel terrible and toxic ....
- I slowly just get stronger, and my body changes over time.
I just really meant saturation time for it to be in my system.
 
The novice 500 mg test only cycle is stupid,

I know the novices want their shit simple as per the KISS thing, but atleast they should be aware about:

Do you know you reduce your PCT/recovery baseline time to around 6-7 weeks by switching to Test Prop and pinning it daily?

Different esters have different Testosterone base content

Prop- 84%
En -72%
cyp- 70%

so you get 20% more T exposure on Prop compared to En/Cyp ester, that is SIGNIFICANT over 12-20 weeks cycle.

weekly basis = 400 mg of Prop ~ 500 of En/Cyp

If you are somehow actually able to assess that you are not responding enough,

Dont Go to 500 is what i mean stick to 300-350 max, switch daily Test P.

Slow escalation.
You’re telling a new user to start by hitting a real cycle with test p? What kinda crap advice is that being tossed around?! There’s a reason test e or test c are the standard first cycle
 
I don’t “feel” any different running 500 vs 250. Quite honestly it’s still a marathon not a sprint. You won’t notice the gains as much as everyone else around you will. Take before and after pictures or body dysmorphia will mess with your head. Estrogen management is the hardest part for most men. I tend to stack it with primo or eq so I don’t have as hard of a time trying to dose aromasin, but I’d still run it solo the first time and get frequent blood work to see if something like that would even be necessary. You can make solid gains on test only and it’s got a way better safety profile than anything else.
Okay thanks, my estradiol was 39 on 250. I’ve been getting blood work every 1.5 months. I did word it wrong though. I just really meant saturation time.
 
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