250ug igf-1 @ 43yrs old

[Irish28]

Thinking of doing 2iu of hgh on top of my TRT. Judging by my igf-1 levels what do you guys think?

 

[Eddie.]

2 IU might actually reduce your already high baseline IGF. 2 iu is a "replacement" dose for those who need it, like people with IGF below or in the early 100s. With 250 baseline i wouldn't bother with less than 4 IU per day.

 

[ThinBulk]

As someone slightly younger than you, 2iu is noticeably more than I'm naturally producing. I have never tested igf-1 levels though.

 

[Ateam2023]

As someone slightly younger than you, 2iu is noticeably more than I'm naturally producing. I have never tested igf-1 levels though.

if you've never tested igf1 before how do you know 2 iu is noticeablely more than natural production? Curious

 

[ThinBulk]

if you've never tested igf1 before how do you know 2 iu is noticeablely more than natural production? Curious

I only started GH for the first time about 1.5 years ago. Before that was only secretagogues. The first thing was my skin. It was noticeably better than usual. Better than peptides even at 2iu. The second was recomp effect with loss of body fat. This effect was less than peptides at 2iu. Before starting, I did look up a few studies testing this. It backs up 2iu being over replacement for men my age.

GH gave me insomnia at first so I couldn't go higher than 2iu. I titrated up to 3.5iu fine later, and just saw more of the same benefit.

I've seen it thrown around a lot that 2iu is a replacement dose. I'd like to hear from people in the 30s or older group that have been on 2iu for at least a few weeks and not noticed anything.

If you're trying to grow, 2iu is definitely too low. For a 35yo+ feel good trt dose, IMO it's a perfect starting dose.

 

[Irish28]

I only started GH for the first time about 1.5 years ago. Before that was only secretagogues. The first thing was my skin. It was noticeably better than usual. Better than peptides even at 2iu. The second was recomp effect with loss of body fat. This effect was less than peptides at 2iu. Before starting, I did look up a few studies testing this. It backs up 2iu being over replacement for men my age.

GH gave me insomnia at first so I couldn't go higher than 2iu. I titrated up to 3.5iu fine later, and just saw more of the same benefit.

I've seen it thrown around a lot that 2iu is a replacement dose. I'd like to hear from people in the 30s or older group that have been on 2iu for at least a few weeks and not noticed anything.

If you're trying to grow, 2iu is definitely too low. For a 35yo+ feel good trt dose, IMO it's a perfect starting dose.

Thanks man appreciate your input....I'm keen to run it for a few weeks at 2iu and then go and get my igf-1 tested again.

 

[Irish28]

2 IU might actually reduce your already high baseline IGF. 2 iu is a "replacement" dose for those who need it, like people with IGF below or in the early 100s. With 250 baseline i wouldn't bother with less than 4 IU per day.

Im actually surprised my igf-1 was at 250.....there is if course the idea that my labs testing isn't super sensitive and in fact my igf results could be off by margin of Xyz.

 

[BeardedGuy]

What IGF-1 are y’all testing… mine from Quest, (IGFBP 1) is <5 with a normal range of 5-34 ng/mL…

 

[Irish28]

I only started GH for the first time about 1.5 years ago. Before that was only secretagogues. The first thing was my skin. It was noticeably better than usual. Better than peptides even at 2iu. The second was recomp effect with loss of body fat. This effect was less than peptides at 2iu. Before starting, I did look up a few studies testing this. It backs up 2iu being over replacement for men my age.

GH gave me insomnia at first so I couldn't go higher than 2iu. I titrated up to 3.5iu fine later, and just saw more of the same benefit.

I've seen it thrown around a lot that 2iu is a replacement dose. I'd like to hear from people in the 30s or older group that have been on 2iu for at least a few weeks and not noticed anything.

If you're trying to grow, 2iu is definitely too low. For a 35yo+ feel good trt dose, IMO it's a perfect starting dose.

Thanks man. I'm only one week in so plenty of time still to go

 

[Irish28]

What IGF-1 are y’all testing… mine from Quest, (IGFBP 1) is <5 with a normal range of 5-34 ng/mL…

I'm in Australia/ new Zealand so we have different testing companies here....i just asked for a test for my igf-1 was about $70

 

[serkan]

I'm 50 years old. Before I started taking HGH, my IGF-1 level was 217. I've been taking 2 IU for 6 weeks and haven't noticed any improvement. My sleep has actually gotten worse. My fasting blood sugar is between 96 and 122. I think it's messing up my system. I'll take it for another 2-3 weeks and then have a lab test done.

 

[Kaching]

I'm 50 years old. Before I started taking HGH, my IGF-1 level was 217. I've been taking 2 IU for 6 weeks and haven't noticed any improvement. My sleep has actually gotten worse. My fasting blood sugar is between 96 and 122. I think it's messing up my system. I'll take it for another 2-3 weeks and then have a lab test done.

Where you got the HGH from?

Maybe the quality is bad.

 

[serkan]

@Kaching QSC

 

[Kaching]

@serkan
Do you inject in the morning or evening, subq or IM?

For me HGH works best in the morning ( fasten) and evening i am going with CJC + IPA before bed ( great sleep).

With HGH depends on the provider which i have tested i could sleep from 2 vendors good and from another vendor very bad sleep, so i changed HGH to morning.

Dont had from QSC... so dont know about them.

 

[serkan]

@Kaching I inject subcutaneously before bedtime. What time do you eat after your injection?

 

[JuiceStick]

@Kaching you are taking rHGH and secretagogues on the same day? Doesn't rHGH shut down your pituitary? What's the expectation with CJC+IPA?

 

[AlexDavis43]

@Kaching you are taking rHGH and secretagogues on the same day? Doesn't rHGH shut down your pituitary? What's the expectation with CJC+IPA?

I don't think it shuts down like your nuts on Test, but don't have the data to know the efficacy of secretagogues while also running GH

My guess: at best there is an additional boost, at worst it does nothing

 

[treacherousasian]

2 IU might actually reduce your already high baseline IGF. 2 iu is a "replacement" dose for those who need it, like people with IGF below or in the early 100s. With 250 baseline i wouldn't bother with less than 4 IU per day.

I'm looking to use 2 IU as well. Would you clarify on how the dose may reduce the baseline IGF? I'm still learning about all this. Thanks in advance.

 

[Eddie.]

I'm looking to use 2 IU as well. Would you clarify on how the dose may reduce the baseline IGF? I'm still learning about all this. Thanks in advance.

I’m not an expert to write down medical terms but I’ll try to explain it. By using exogenous hgh you downregulate your pituitary gland, you basically stop producing hgh. If your pituitary was producing more than the exogenous amount of hgh you’re planning to use, guess what..

It’s like with testosterone. If you give to a natty healthy man with normal total testosterone for example 50-70mg of exogenous test per week he’s going to end with crashed levels.

 

[Irish28]

I’m not an expert to write down medical terms but I’ll try to explain it. By using exogenous hgh you downregulate your pituitary gland, you basically stop producing hgh. If your pituitary was producing more than the exogenous amount of hgh you’re planning to use, guess what..

It’s like with testosterone. If you give to a natty healthy man with normal total testosterone for example 50-70mg of exogenous test per week he’s going to end with crashed levels.

Thanks for the reply.
This is very interesting stuff because I've heard a few people on YouTube who say that taking extra hgh won't impact on the bodies natural production


But it makes sense I guess that testosterone injections shut down your body's natural production so why wouldn't hgh injections do the same