2nd cycle bulking advice Anadrol/Test/EQ - Mk-677

[Tmannn]

Hmm ill consider doing it with the eq.

Also, i made a huge error on the first post. Its 250mg of test e mon, thurs

500mg total

 

[Tmannn]

Yeah that's why i haven't run EQ. My choices are Test only, test/mast (cut or show prep)
And test/Deca (bulking) I won't even run an oral. Definitely won't use any tren, growth or insulin. my goals really aren't that high size wise, and i wanna have some longevity so especially going forward Id like to take it easy. I may try a light oral like provioron or anavar. But don't have any plans to in the immediate future. I'm also planning to stick to one 12-16 week cycle per year now. Staying at a gram combined or less on cycle. Trt around 200MG Cyp.

Depending on my bp on this cycle i might not touch it again. Stick to test only and some var.

For me, the ped only push me over that natty potental. But i dont rely on peds to train and gain.

 

[Physique Demon]

Smart play. I wish I would have played it a little different but because of the learning curve, I didnt. As for the tren, growth and slin. I use tren every other blast and I've been running growth straight for years. I've slowed down on slin use. Not because its dangerous but I get tired of the waves while on it.

What're your stats looking like sir?

 

[Spokeonawheel]

I'd move PCT back to 4 weeks after last test pin.

After 2 weeks you will still have roughly 200 + mgs floating around in your system due to the half life. 4 weeks you should be cleared out enough for your body to start wanting to make up the difference and natural test production should be "waking back up".

 

[Spokeonawheel]

Been a minute since I PCTed, but I know half lives.

@Silentlemon1011 has been PCTing on and off for a hot minute and may have some more solid experience and advice.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Been a minute since I PCTed, but I know half lives.

@Silentlemon1011 has been PCTing on and off for a hot minute and may have some more solid experience and advice.

Thanks brother.
My biggest advice... blast and cruise lol.
Currently I'm on PCT and the clomid is making me super bitchy.
Cant wait until Blast and cruise lol, oh well... AFTER kids I guess, my fault for getting hitched so late in the game i guess.

@Tmannn
@Spokeonawheel is 100% right
Wait for that PCT.

Test E half life is AROUND 7ISH days (I know, not accurate, but a day or two can be user dependant)

So
at 7 days you have 250mg Test
14 days 125mg (Still High TRT numbers) Meaning your HPTA wont want to restart... why would it?
You're now at NORMAL test levels.
You need to be lower than normal and ideally, lower than your PRE cycle testosterone to start PCT.
even at 21 days... you're at 75... (What ALOT of docs actually even try to start TRT at)
21 days after Test E is a good starting point for PCT.
Or you really qknt be getting a FULL PCT in.
You'll be missing the first week 8n change.

I know, its total bullshit.. 21 days... losing gains.
Fuck that.
What I personally do,
Switch To Test PROP on the final week of your cycle
Clear the system faster.
You bring that PCT number from 21 days from last pin, to 14 days from last pin.

It's like a free week of cycling!

But yeah, fuck PCT lol

 

[Tmannn]

Thanks brother.
My biggest advice... blast and cruise lol.


@Tmannn
@Spokeonawheel is 100% right
Wait for that PCT.

Test E half life is AROUND 7ISH days (I know, not accurate, but a day or two can be user dependant)

So
at 7 days you have 250mg Test
14 days 125mg (Still High TRT numbers) Meaning your HPTA wont want to restart... why would it?
You're now at NORMAL test levels.
You need to be lower than normal and ideally, lower than your PRE cycle testosterone to start PCT.
even at 21 days... you're at 75... (What ALOT of docs actually even try to start TRT at)
21 days after Test E is a good starting point for PCT.
Or you really qknt be getting a FULL PCT in.
You'll be missing the first week 8n change.

I know, its total bullshit.. 21 days... losing gains.
Fuck that.
What I personally do,
Switch To Test PROP on the final week of your cycle
Clear the system faster.
You bring that PCT number from 21 days from last pin, to 14 days from last pin.

It's like a free week of cycling!

But yeah, fuck PCT lol

Lol i would be in the same boat as you. I want kids i the next 2 years or so.

Thank you for the detailed response.
@Silentlemon1011

I actually have test prop on hand. 10ml dosed at 100mg i think.

What so you recommend my last week of test be dosed at. I havent used test prop. But i am aware of the short ester and somewhat have knowledge of pin frequency

 

[Tmannn]

Been a minute since I PCTed, but I know half lives.

@Silentlemon1011 has been PCTing on and off for a hot minute and may have some more solid experience and advice.

Thank you for calling out pct.

 

[Silentlemon1011]

Lol i would be in the same boat as you. I want kids i the next 2 years or so.

Thank you for the detailed response.
@Silentlemon1011

I actually have test prop on hand. 10ml dosed at 100mg i think.

What so you recommend my last week of test be dosed at. I havent used test prop. But i am aware of the short ester and somewhat have knowledge of pin frequency

I just run 350 Prop on the last week, as the E is still there in my system (Assumed you're running 500 test)
Divided into EoD pins.
Starting on the next day you would typically pin your E.

To be honest, on not very good at understanding the chemicals and ratios in switching.
Maybe someone else could jump in on that.
Pretty sure my method Jack's your Test up far past 500.
But I handle estrogen well, so I never really bothered to perfect it lol

There are some cycle calculators online that could help you plan it.

 

[gainzoclock]

Looks good on Anadrol you will grow like a weed,just finished a similar cycle.Took my Anadrol first thing in the morning,100 mg per day first 4 weeks.Ended up last 4 weeks with Winstrol 50 mg per day.5’7” 192 lbs. 9 % BF

Nice man - what did you start at?