2nd cycle help.

[Ink]

It’s been 4 months since my first cycle.

300 test (first 8 weeks)
300 Eq (first 8 weeks)

Got bloods then bumped both up to 500 for the last 8 weeks. I did have E2 issues and added in aromasin which cleared it up pretty quick.

I’m getting ready to run my next cycle but tbh I have no idea what I want to run. I’ve been flip flopping with a couple ideas and have been doing a ton of research. I just want to put on as much size as possible.

Any input on a quote unquote intermediate cycle would be much appreciated.

First cycle pictures below.

 

[BigTomJ]

It’s been 4 months since my first cycle.

300 test (first 8 weeks)
300 Eq (first 8 weeks)

Got bloods then bumped both up to 500 for the last 8 weeks. I did have E2 issues and added in aromasin which cleared it up pretty quick.

So you ran a whole gram of mixed injectables for a first cycle?

I’m getting ready to run my next cycle but tbh I have no idea what I want to run. I’ve been flip flopping with a couple ideas and have been doing a ton of research. I just want to put on as much size as possible.

Any input on a quote unquote intermediate cycle would be much appreciated.

You shouldn't be looking at intermediate cycles because you aren't an intermediate. You're very very much a beginner and already started on the wrong foot

 

[Ink]

So you ran a whole gram of mixed injectables for a first cycle?


You shouldn't be looking at intermediate cycles because you aren't an intermediate. You're very very much a beginner and already started on the wrong foot

Yes sir, I started way before I should have. I hired a coach who worked out at the gym I was running. He’s trained multiple IFBB pros so I thought I had a good thing going. When he tried to give me Dbol after I said my E2 was high I knew something was wrong. So I stopped coaching with him and have been doing a ton of research. I want to keep cycling but I’d rather not die in the process.

 

[TTren]

great progress man
weird how with EQ u still have e2 issues EQ kills my estrogen but everyone different

 

[Ink]

great progress man
weird how with EQ u still have e2 issues EQ kills my estrogen but everyone different

Odd right? Although I think my Eq was bunk tbh and got it from a different company and it would explain the E2 issues.

 

[Juicedhead]

If you felt good on that cycle and made that good of progress just run the same cycle.

 

[BigTomJ]

Yes sir, I started way before I should have. I hired a coach who worked out at the gym I was running. He’s trained multiple IFBB pros so I thought I had a good thing going. When he tried to give me Dbol after I said my E2 was high I knew something was wrong. So I stopped coaching with him and have been doing a ton of research. I want to keep cycling but I’d rather not die in the process.

Start over from square 1 with just 500 test and go from there.
Good to hear you're doing your due diligence in educating yourself

 

[RekTest]

Pictures would indicate youd still benefit from a 500mg/wk test cycle.
Run it for 16wks if bloods stay good. Dial in your diet to a T.

 

[Ink]

Pictures would indicate youd still benefit from a 500mg/wk test cycle.
Run it for 16wks if bloods stay good. Dial in your diet to a T.

Appreciate it.

 

[marsupial]

So you ran a whole gram of mixed injectables for a first cycle?


You shouldn't be looking at intermediate cycles because you aren't an intermediate. You're very very much a beginner and already started on the wrong foot

lol sure he had more to gain before hopping on but I bet my ass most people here cycled for the first time worse than that

 

[marsupial]

Ppl are saying 500 test but honestly since you’ve already got some experience I’d add primo or mast to that 500 to control estrogen better. Your estrogen prob wasn’t super high with test 300 eq 300 before you bumped it up like it will be with test 500 alone from the very start. Also remember e2 generally increases throughout cycle if not controlled because you generally put on more fat in addition to increase in muscle mass and water

 

[marsupial]

Btw what’s your before and after height and weight? How do you look now that you PCTd off

 

[Ink]

Btw what’s your before and after height and weight? How do you look now that you PCTd off

5’7 140lbs starting

173lbs at week 16.

No pct I’m diagnosed with low T, so I just use a HRT dose after the cycle.

 

[knucklesamich]

If that was a before and after picture, it appears to be, looks like you responded well. That's some hefty dosage for your first cycle, but it is what it is now. So doing it again would be beneficial, you know what to expect.
You could-
Run the same cycle again, with an added oral
Run just Test at a little bit higher dose
Run a different compound along with Test (Deca for instance)

Something to consider, stay healthy, keep an eye on blood pressure (get a blood pressure machine), consider your diet (eat clean), consider your training style. These will have a considerable impact on results. Safety first always.

Edit: I just saw your post on results. 140 lbs, to 173 lbs. Some of that's water weight and will go away, but . . . That's a good run, you gained 33 lbs. Ever see 33 lbs of steak sitting on a table? It's A LOT.

 

[Underworlddog]

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Wtf amazing transformation

 

[Jtlittle88]

It’s been 4 months since my first cycle.

300 test (first 8 weeks)
300 Eq (first 8 weeks)

Got bloods then bumped both up to 500 for the last 8 weeks. I did have E2 issues and added in aromasin which cleared it up pretty quick.

I’m getting ready to run my next cycle but tbh I have no idea what I want to run. I’ve been flip flopping with a couple ideas and have been doing a ton of research. I just want to put on as much size as possible.

Any input on a quote unquote intermediate cycle would be much appreciated.

First cycle pictures below. View attachment 313627View attachment 313628

Me and you seem about the same age based on looks. I’m 2 years in and I haven’t gone above 900mg total yet. To me you could do your 500 test 500 eq or even try 500 test 3-400npp. Have Aromasin on hand.

I get it not crazy dosages. In fact same as you did, but it seems you help body fat well. Use the food to your advantage. Keep steps up 8-10k and cardio each day for heart health and metabolism.

This way you’ll be able to push good upper high than last time. It’s what I did and it worked well. Pictures for credentials that I kinda know what I’m talking about ig.