2nd Cycle... Simple Mass

[shootmovecommunicate24]

I'm 24...today,6'0'' 235ish 15% < Was at 10% at the same time last year when I started bulking, but I was also in Afghanistan and I took some damage to my legs. So, physical therapy and a whole bunch of whining later here I am.

12 week cycle:
Weeks 1-5:
Test 400 - 2 pins a week M&Th
D-Bol - 50mg a day
Weeks 5-10:
Sust 250 - 2 pins a week M&Th
Decca - 400mg a week
Weeks 11 and 12:
Test 400 - 1 pin a week
D-Bol - 25mg a day
Decca - 200mg a week

Nolvadex, Liquidex, and Milkthistle on hand, and taken throughout.
PCT includes Nolva, Liqui, Milkthistle, and creatine.

Pros? Cons? Suggestions?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Why are you bouncing around with your dose? Pick one dose and stick to it. No need to titrate up or down. And 5 wks is too short for deca to shine - waste of money, IMO. And make sure you include an AI on cycle.

Milk Thistle is garbage. Pick up some NAC or UDCA.

 

[shootmovecommunicate24]

I watched some videos withe Rich Piana, and in one of the videos he talked about changing it up during the cycle. According to him, changing it up during the cycle works much like muscle confusion. Granted he's been doing roids for like 20 years, and probably is pumping pure tren through his veins instead of blood these days. My first cycle was like 3 years ago, and it was pretty standard; I had some pretty good gains, and kept most of them. I honestly just wanted to try something new.

So you think I should run D-Bol and Decca together the whole time and just switch between 400 and Sust?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Rich Piana is a fool. Do not listen to him.

Dbol for kicker and Sust OR 400 straight through. Add the deca if you like but include it for entire cycle for max benefits. Deca has a very long ester and takes time to saturate bloods (serum).

What are you using for an AI?

 

[shootmovecommunicate24]

So, say I run D-bol, Decca, and Sust straight through and do an 8-10 week follow up cycle of 400 using whatever D-bol I have left as a kicker?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

No. Say you dont do that.

This ---> Dbol (kicker), Sust, Deca - 12-14 weeks. Period.

WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR AN AI?????????????????????????????

 

[HuckingFuge]

10 to 12 week cycle would be best using Sust and Deca. Sust is an every other day shot though.

 

[shootmovecommunicate24]

No. Say you dont do that.

This ---> Dbol (kicker), Sust, Deca - 12-14 weeks. Period.

WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR AN AI?????????????????????????????

I'm using liquidex

 

[Northern Nutrition]

I'm using liquidex

Thank you.

 

[hashem306]

Hey northern on 400mg test and 300 deca a week do you want to take 1mg or rimidex eod or every 3 days?

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Not sure i understand the question, Hashem. Are you asking if i recommend 1mg Adex EOD or E3D on your proposed cycle? If so, no i dont. I recommend you begin with .25mg EOD and monitor closely from there. You may find that you will require .5 EOD but wait for either blood work or visual and felt sides to determine your protocol. Obviously bloods would be best.

 

[Walker]

@shootmovecommunicate24 he meant run the dbol as a kicker at the start of the cycle for say the first 4 weeks then ditch the dbol...

 

[tileguy123]

Deca takes at least 4 weeks to clear def use a pct calculator

 

[hashem306]

Not sure i understand the question, Hashem. Are you asking if i recommend 1mg Adex EOD or E3D on your proposed cycle? If so, no i dont. I recommend you begin with .25mg EOD and monitor closely from there. You may find that you will require .5 EOD but wait for either blood work or visual and felt sides to determine your protocol. Obviously bloods would be best.

Ok cool ya that's what I meant, I don't think I have ever felt estrogen related symptoms before. (People say you would know if your are having issues) But I will run .25 mg oed.