2nd Cycle Test E, Tren E, and Equipoise

[ButtPiP]

I'm trying to contribute and share with the community with this thread but some members make that difficult with all the negativity and opinions. There is probably dozen threads a month about "Should I run Tren my 2nd cycle", and "What Compound should I run for my 2nd cycle".

Pics uploaded. Only two pins in. I probably won't start arimidex this coming week as I have zero side, except maybe a higher libido.

I got bloods week on 4 or 6 on my last cycle and my E2 was at 28 which was 2 points higher than my base.

I laid out the plan for my cycle above, it has already changed with starting arimidex and plan may change will change depending on the sides and progress.

 

[Morefyah]

I'm trying to contribute and share with the community with this thread but some members make that difficult with all the negativity and opinions. There is probably dozen threads a month about "Should I run Tren my 2nd cycle", and "What Compound should I run for my 2nd cycle".

Pics uploaded. Only two pins in. I probably won't start arimidex this coming week as I have zero side, except maybe a higher libido.

I got bloods week on 4 or 6 on my last cycle and my E2 was at 28 which was 2 points higher than my base.

I laid out the plan for my cycle above, it has already changed with starting arimidex and plan may change will change depending on the sides and progress.

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I’m not trying to give you a hard time bro.
When I post a proposed cycle or ask questions I don’t get upset if someone says something I don’t want to hear. It happens all the time around here! I had a few members recently get upset because I questioned someone’s log about how they gained 17 lbs in five weeks running only Test Cyp, and they retaliated with insults?
Wtf? Lol, of course they change there story as soon as I questioned them. I think everyone around here that posts publicly needs to be more open minded to criticism.

Your a grown man and you can and should do want you want. Using Tren E is not recommended for a second cycle if anything it should be ACE but it’s still not recommended for a second cycle.
Then you wanna throw in the EQ on top of it.
Your in your mid 30’s and want children, why shut you natty test down for that long when you can gain plenty on just Test and Tren.
Even though Tren is not recommended for a second cycle it will save you 6-8 weeks of suppression by not adding the EQ.
If your were done having your family and on TRT we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

This is a great stack and you have definitely put some time and thought into it. I wish I could run it but Tren doesn’t agree with me. I was just trying to help you. I called you cheap because gear is cheap and believe it or not there is a different scenario for every stack. Imo this isn’t the best one for your current situation.

Anyway I hope you have a safe and productive cycle. If you do run the EQ don’t forget to donate

 

[Eman45]

I'm trying to contribute and share with the community with this thread but some members make that difficult with all the negativity and opinions. There is probably dozen threads a month about "Should I run Tren my 2nd cycle", and "What Compound should I run for my 2nd cycle".

Pics uploaded. Only two pins in. I probably won't start arimidex this coming week as I have zero side, except maybe a higher libido.

I got bloods week on 4 or 6 on my last cycle and my E2 was at 28 which was 2 points higher than my base.

I laid out the plan for my cycle above, it has already changed with starting arimidex and plan may change will change depending on the sides and progress.

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Yea not trying to bash you brah. Some of the stuff I say is from experience shit that’s happen to me for the worst. We don’t want people to mess them selfs up. At some point you have to weigh out your options. Taking it slow is better. As far as tren for second cycle I’m not really against it. I personally used tren for the first time last year or so. Didn’t wow me because I grew just fine with other compounds that I enjoyed much more for fact of just feeling better while on cycle. Tren has its place I’m sure but I think the hype is much more than it should be. But you can gain a lot just running test n eq or test n tren why throw everything in on ur second cycle. What happens with your third cycle n so on. Anyways you looking decent got good base to start off of. The gains come easy longest your training and diet are in check. That for sure. It’s like the food parimid thing I always use for example. But with food gear and training. Food is the base that’s the start of everything should be based off ur diet as far as how you will be training. Which training comes in a close second to diet. Now why I say it that way is because dieting is a full day thing. Training is a couple hours at best. So diet weights out training in my eyes. You can train as much as u want if ur diet is set for your goals. Your training will never reach its goals. Or as good as it could have. N last is gear. With out the other two in check gear wind do shit for you. It’s no miracle drug. I feel people rely to much on gear then diet n work ethics. And when I see cycle this big for a second run to me I take it as they are using the gear to determin there out come. But anyways best of luck. Hope you take advise and drop some. Nothing wrong with saving some gear for ur next run. Good luck

 

[ButtPiP]

Morefyah and Eman45,

I appreciate the detailed responses and don't disagree with anything you both said.

Tren might be hyped way too much on the internet, however, my coworker is telling me how awesome tren is. My original plan was Test and EQ, but I talked to a few experienced steroid users on this site privately, and they said go for it because the tren dosage I wanted to run is low. I guess it was more about "I want to try tren" rather than how does Tren get me too my goals or whatever. Pharma AI and PCT on hand.

To run EQ, you're looking at a 14-16 week and that for is too long for a beginner, however, EQ is highly recommended on internet as a good option for a 2nd cycle, given the mild sides.

I didn't want the bulky look Deca gives you and sides from Deca don't sound attractive at all. I'm here now, 3rd pin later today. I will take this week to re-evaluation my cycle, due some more homework, and determine if there is a better cycle for me to run.

 

[Eman45]

Morefyah and Eman45,

I appreciate the detailed responses and don't disagree with anything you both said.

Tren might be hyped way too much on the internet, however, my coworker is telling me how awesome tren is. My original plan was Test and EQ, but I talked to a few experienced steroid users on this site privately, and they said go for it because the tren dosage I wanted to run is low. I guess it was more about "I want to try tren" rather than how does Tren get me too my goals or whatever. Pharma AI and PCT on hand.

To run EQ, you're looking at a 14-16 week and that for is too long for a beginner, however, EQ is highly recommended on internet as a good option for a 2nd cycle, given the mild sides.

I didn't want the bulky look Deca gives you and sides from Deca don't sound attractive at all. I'm here now, 3rd pin later today. I will take this week to re-evaluation my cycle, due some more homework, and determine if there is a better cycle for me to run.

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I’m not going to into the whole friend thing man. Your on this site I’m sure for a reason. But ima throw couple hints at ya since your doing it anyways. Take it or leave it. Switch the test and the tren dose also lower your eq to 600 for 13weeks. Start tren later in cycle so it’s working longer with the eq. As far as hcg start week 5- the adex you might need might not. May need even more so because of the hcg included. So that would also start week 5 if you feel to do so. Also don’t increase the test so high so late in cycle you will only mess with your recovery with no Benefits from increasing dose right before pct. look something like this.


Test 200mg wk1-14
Tren300mg wk 3-13
Eq500-600wk1-13
Hcg wk5-12 250iux2 adex if needed .25x2 week start
1000iu hcg

 

[Eman45]

Morefyah and Eman45,

I appreciate the detailed responses and don't disagree with anything you both said.

Tren might be hyped way too much on the internet, however, my coworker is telling me how awesome tren is. My original plan was Test and EQ, but I talked to a few experienced steroid users on this site privately, and they said go for it because the tren dosage I wanted to run is low. I guess it was more about "I want to try tren" rather than how does Tren get me too my goals or whatever. Pharma AI and PCT on hand.

To run EQ, you're looking at a 14-16 week and that for is too long for a beginner, however, EQ is highly recommended on internet as a good option for a 2nd cycle, given the mild sides.

I didn't want the bulky look Deca gives you and sides from Deca don't sound attractive at all. I'm here now, 3rd pin later today. I will take this week to re-evaluation my cycle, due some more homework, and determine if there is a better cycle for me to run.

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I’m not going to into the whole friend thing man. Your on this site I’m sure for a reason. But ima throw couple hints at ya since your doing it anyways. Take it or leave it. Switch the test and the tren dose also lower your eq to 600 for 13weeks. Start tren later in cycle so it’s working longer with the eq. As far as hcg start week 5- the adex you might need might not. May need even more so because of the hcg included. So that would also start week 5 if you feel to do so. Also don’t increase the test so high so late in cycle you will only mess with your recovery with no Benefits from increasing dose right before pct. look something like this.


Test 200mg wk1-14
Tren300mg wk 3-13
Eq500-600wk1-13
Hcg wk5-12 250iux2 adex if needed .25x2 week start
1000iu hcg wk13-14
Nova n clomid wk 15-19
The key is to get ur pct in quick to recover or ur gains will not hold. This will be your most effective and best way of recovery. Maybe some of the guys can jump in with the pct area.