3 year blast and cruise

[BoulderJoust]

Napsgear has 5k iu hcg for half price product of the week 17$ Per ampule. Should I stock up I already have
20k iu hcg but I don’t think it’s enough. Any thoughts should I buy another 30k iu and spend longer on hcg before serms. I believe jay monks recovered this way or at a lower dose of hcg for a longer period of time?

 

[The Terminator]

Napsgear has 5k iu hcg for half price product of the week 17$ Per ampule. Should I stock up I already have
20k iu hcg but I don’t think it’s enough. Any thoughts should I buy another 30k iu and spend longer on hcg before serms. I believe jay monks recovered this way or at a lower dose of hcg for a longer period of time?

If $ isn’t an issue then get more, also make sure you’re getting a good brand from a reliable source. I mean hCG is easy to test but still, some crappy generic (code for ugl) might be of lower purity of quality, and who knows how well they purify the generic crap. My favorite has been ovitrelle which is rhcG which makes it more expensive but more stable, my favorite of the uhCG is fertigyn 10,000. Anyway can’t hurt to have more than you need if you’re not broke.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I believe jay monks recovered this way or at a lower dose of hcg for a longer period of time?

I believe so too. Cant stress enough how fucking difficult it is HCG alone popping loads of AI's driving estro too low etc, rollercoaster. Very testing.

If $ isn’t an issue then get more, also make sure y my favorite of the uhCG is fertigyn 10,000. Anyway can’t hurt to have more than you need if you’re not broke.

I liked fertigyn, seem to respond very well to that. Pregnyl was what was used most.

 

[BoulderJoust]

While waiting for my pct order to arrive, I had some left over nolvadex from my previous pct. I took 20mg on consecutive days and all my brain fog disappeared, I actually have so much energy it’s hard to sleep and my testicles started hurting so I stopped taking it 2 days ago. I still feel lots of energy and no brain fog and can function on less sleep. Can anyone relate to this experience? It goes against everything I have read about nolva! On my previous pct I experienced none of this except it was slightly harder to sleep. I’m thinking it’s because I have been shut down for a long time? Any thoughts? It feels like I took testosterone after being shut down for awhile.

 

[BoulderJoust]

Why do serms give you energy and remove brain fog? I was extremely fatigued till nolva now I’m back to my normal self. I can’t take it every day as it causes me insomnia. Whenever I get brain fog I pop 1 20mg pill and I’m good for 5 days. Does hcg have the same effect on brain fog and fatigue? I have 70k iu on the way gonna try a 3 month hcg cycle 2k iu every 3 days- than onto serms.

 

[The Terminator]

Why do serms give you energy and remove brain fog? I was extremely fatigued till nolva now I’m back to my normal self. I can’t take it every day as it causes me insomnia. Whenever I get brain fog I pop 1 20mg pill and I’m good for 5 days. Does hcg have the same effect on brain fog and fatigue? I have 70k iu on the way gonna try a 3 month hcg cycle 2k iu every 3 days- than onto serms.

I kinda noticed something especially from the tamoxifen especially the one I got from a US pharmacy, even when I took it with AAS. It didn’t help a whole lot when I first went off and didn’t do hCG. If your fog is caused by low hormones the hCG should help. Like I was at 175 when I started 1000iu, it was at that level despite serms, and like I mentioned in this thread within an hour or two the fog lifted, kinda felt like a drug was hitting me lol. My libido wasn’t especially low with that level, it was lower than normal, boners took a bit to come, anyway took about a week of hCG for it to really go back up. It’s not testosterone so it won’t increase a suppressed guys T from 100 to 700 overnight.

 

[BoulderJoust]

Yea serms are just like a stimulant that’s euphoric but only if taken with brain fog and fatigue. Once my order arrives I will start my pct journal. 600$ in pct meds but I’m going all in on my recovery. I bought 20k iu hcg 1 week ago and 70k iu hcg today. Also Aromasion and arimidex plus 50x 50mg/clomid 90x/nolva 20mg. Also some generic cialis but that’s not really a pct med lol

 

[BoulderJoust]

My testosterone lh and fsh are abnormally low according to my doctor but my semen analysis is just fine what are the odds of that? I was convinced I would have infertility? Well I can’t do serms because of insomnia side effects but I do have 90k iu Hcg. Doctor wants to put me on trt one shot bi weekly if that’s the case I rather do a self prescribed trt with twice weekly injections. I have suffered enough I’m accepting a life of trt with hcg to remain fertile. I will say I have always enjoyed sex more off steroids but I can’t take the muscle wasting anymore even when I’m constantly working out.

 

[Sharkweek]

My testosterone lh and fsh are abnormally low according to my doctor but my semen analysis is just fine what are the odds of that? I was convinced I would have infertility? Well I can’t do serms because of insomnia side effects but I do have 90k iu Hcg. Doctor wants to put me on trt one shot bi weekly if that’s the case I rather do a self prescribed trt with twice weekly injections. I have suffered enough I’m accepting a life of trt with hcg to remain fertile. I will say I have always enjoyed sex more off steroids but I can’t take the muscle wasting anymore even when I’m constantly working out.

Of course they are, it's going to take months to run a proper pct for this.

I started my pct in mid may, and it is still on going.

 

[The Terminator]

My testosterone lh and fsh are abnormally low according to my doctor but my semen analysis is just fine what are the odds of that? I was convinced I would have infertility? Well I can’t do serms because of insomnia side effects but I do have 90k iu Hcg. Doctor wants to put me on trt one shot bi weekly if that’s the case I rather do a self prescribed trt with twice weekly injections. I have suffered enough I’m accepting a life of trt with hcg to remain fertile. I will say I have always enjoyed sex more off steroids but I can’t take the muscle wasting anymore even when I’m constantly working out.

What is “abnormally low?” As long as the balls have an adequate level of T you can remain fertile with low serum T (which is were the extra T your body makes goes) and little to undetectable FSH.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

My testosterone lh and fsh are abnormally low according to my doctor but my semen analysis is just fine what are the odds of that? I was convinced I would have infertility? Well I can’t do serms because of insomnia side effects but I do have 90k iu Hcg. Doctor wants to put me on trt one shot bi weekly if that’s the case I rather do a self prescribed trt with twice weekly injections. I have suffered enough I’m accepting a life of trt with hcg to remain fertile. I will say I have always enjoyed sex more off steroids but I can’t take the muscle wasting anymore even when I’m constantly working out.

So your just going to give in? You haven't even began to heal yourself.

 

[Athleticgingerpta]

I agree with Jay. At least run the 90,000 iu if HCG before going with TRT. I also am in your boat. The worst symptom is probably a tie between libido and anxiety.

 

[BoulderJoust]

I’m running the hcg at 3k iu eod but still low on energy. I will get blood work done in 6 weeks to see if I can recover this has been going on since March. I am very tempted to give in especially since I have plenty of anabolics at home. If my testosterone isn’t up after more 6 weeks I’m tapping out it’s effecting my life and job.

 

[BirdieNumNum]

I'd of thought taking doses of 3000iu HCG EOD would've yielded better results.

If my testosterone isn’t up after more 6 weeks I’m tapping out it’s effecting my life and job.

Completely understand.

 

[The Terminator]

I’m running the hcg at 3k iu eod but still low on energy. I will get blood work done in 6 weeks to see if I can recover this has been going on since March. I am very tempted to give in especially since I have plenty of anabolics at home. If my testosterone isn’t up after more 6 weeks I’m tapping out it’s effecting my life and job.

Is your hCG good, have you been pregnancy testing them to make sure? If it were me I’d try 5000iu 3x a week before I threw in the towel. I’ve read of one or two extreme cases where it took this high dose to finally get a response.

Also it’s possible that your T has improved but the high dose is giving you negative side effects. Never done more than like 2000-2500iu in one shot and those were a couple isolated cases, my experience is with ~1000iu 3x/wk so idk what 3k eod would be like.