36 y/o from Italy – Considering Testosterone Microdosing for Chronic Fatigue

[Hacksquatter]

Hi everyone, my name is Daniel, I’m 36 years old and writing to you from Italy. First of all, thank you for the great amount of valuable information you guys share here. I've been silently reading for a while, and now I feel ready to join and share a bit of my story.

For the past few years, I’ve been struggling with chronic fatigue, low energy, and poor recovery. Even after adequate sleep and rest, I often wake up feeling tired and mentally foggy. Despite leading a healthy lifestyle — I follow a balanced diet and regularly supplement with omega-3, vitamin D**, and magnesium bisglycinate— the fatigue persists.

I used to train consistently, but I’ve recently had to pause my workouts due to poor post-training recovery. This has been deeply frustrating, especially because training has always been my outlet.

Here in Italy, unfortunately, it's very difficult to find medical professionals or clinics that take hormonal health seriously unless your testosterone levels are extremely low. I don’t want to jump into anything blindly, which is why I’m planning to do a full panel of bloodwork first — and I'd love to hear from you which specific test you recommend for evaluating overall hormone health and the possibility of low T.

I’ve been considering a low-dose testosterone microdosing protocol, not for performance enhancement or aesthetics, but simply to regain a stable level of energy and improve my quality of life. I know this is an unusual approach and I’m still in the research and learning phase — but I’m genuinely curious: Do you think this kind of protocol could be effective in a case like mine?

Any advice, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks in advance for reading and for any guidance you can provide. Best regards, Daniel

 

[Nidus]

I had free test of 1.4 ng/dl. Went through countless doctors and labs, all told me nope.

Wanted to put me on thyroid medication, anti-depressants and other drugs

Then went to a doctor that got recommend do me through a gym friend, he saw my labs and was shocked, prescribed me 200mg of Test E a week right away and oh dude.

After 5-6 weeks i was finally able to see colors again, life made sense, i slept much better, became happy, more productive, no brain fog nothing.

Now on 300mg of Test a week with 200mg of Primo. Best decision ever. Planning to run this forever, do my labs frequently and make sure to improve all other markers.

For me this was a major quality of life improvement. Lost a ton of weight, improved my lipids drastically, pretty much reversed Type 2 Diabetis, became so more confident and have a higher self-esteem of myself and never felt better than this.

With that being said, get a comprehensive lab panel done, check everything out, visit a cardiologist, get an electrocardiogram done, get kidney, liver, thyroid and urine checked out too before you hop on. Full lipid panel with LipoA and ApoB too and move forward from there.

 

[Hacksquatter]

Ho fatto un test gratuito di 1,4 ng/dl. Sono andato da innumerevoli dottori e laboratori, tutti mi hanno detto di no.

Voleva prescrivermi farmaci per la tiroide, antidepressivi e altri farmaci

Poi sono andato da un medico che mi aveva consigliato un amico della palestra, ha visto i miei esami ed è rimasto scioccato, mi ha prescritto subito 200 mg di Test E a settimana e oh cavolo.

Dopo 5-6 settimane sono finalmente riuscito a vedere di nuovo i colori, la vita aveva un senso, dormivo molto meglio, ero felice, più produttivo, niente più confusione mentale.

Ora assumo 300 mg di Test a settimana con 200 mg di Primo. La decisione migliore di sempre. Ho intenzione di continuare così per sempre, di fare i miei esami di laboratorio frequentemente e di assicurarmi di migliorare tutti gli altri marcatori.

Per me è stato un miglioramento importante della qualità della vita. Ho perso un sacco di peso, ho migliorato drasticamente i miei lipidi, ho praticamente invertito il diabete di tipo 2, sono diventato molto più sicuro di me e ho una maggiore autostima e non mi sono mai sentito meglio di così.

Detto questo, fai un pannello di laboratorio completo, controlla tutto, visita un cardiologo, fai un elettrocardiogramma, fai controllare anche reni, fegato, tiroide e urine prima di salire. Pannello lipidico completo anche con LipoA e ApoB e vai avanti da lì.

Grazie Thank you for telling me Your experience. I will take it into consideration and do some tests.

 

[Nidus]

Grazie Thank you for telling me Your experience. I will take it into consideration and do some tests.

Youre welcome. If done right and having a smart approach you can only win.

Test, Primo with a bit of GH and maybe some Tirza or Retra and you're set for life.

 

[Eddie.]

Youre welcome. If done right and having a smart approach you can only win.

Test, Primo with a bit of GH and maybe some Tirza or Retra and you're set for life.

No, please don't advise newbies to hop on test+primo indefinitely. You do you, but 500mg of mixed compounds is not a TRT, it's a permacycle.

Also he says he's already dealing with fatigue and you're saying to add primo, a drug that brings fatigue and shitty wellbeing to many individuals.

Hi everyone, my name is Daniel, I’m 36 years old and writing to you from Italy. First of all, thank you for the great amount of valuable information you guys share here. I've been silently reading for a while, and now I feel ready to join and share a bit of my story.

For the past few years, I’ve been struggling with chronic fatigue, low energy, and poor recovery. Even after adequate sleep and rest, I often wake up feeling tired and mentally foggy. Despite leading a healthy lifestyle — I follow a balanced diet and regularly supplement with omega-3, vitamin D**, and magnesium bisglycinate— the fatigue persists.

I used to train consistently, but I’ve recently had to pause my workouts due to poor post-training recovery. This has been deeply frustrating, especially because training has always been my outlet.

Here in Italy, unfortunately, it's very difficult to find medical professionals or clinics that take hormonal health seriously unless your testosterone levels are extremely low. I don’t want to jump into anything blindly, which is why I’m planning to do a full panel of bloodwork first — and I'd love to hear from you which specific test you recommend for evaluating overall hormone health and the possibility of low T.

I’ve been considering a low-dose testosterone microdosing protocol, not for performance enhancement or aesthetics, but simply to regain a stable level of energy and improve my quality of life. I know this is an unusual approach and I’m still in the research and learning phase — but I’m genuinely curious: Do you think this kind of protocol could be effective in a case like mine?

Any advice, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks in advance for reading and for any guidance you can provide. Best regards, Daniel

Wisest move is to pull labs and if test levels are too low, start with 140-150mg test only and see how you respond. Having your test levels on the higher end of normal range will be night and day IF currently you're having low test levels. If your levels are normal don't expect anything to change, you will just have your axis shut down.

If you're interested on a bodybuilding cycle this is a different matter, but from what i get from your post you just want to feel "normal" and more alive and energetic? Do an extended labwork panel including DHEA, pregnenolone, Total Test, free test, SHBG, prolactin, progesterone, CBC, liver values, kidney values, iron, ferritin, vitamin D3, magnesium, calcium and whatever your pocket can handle and return here with the results.

 

[Hacksquatter]

Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply — I truly appreciate your insights and different perspectives.

I’ve decided to move forward with bloodwork as my first step, as many of you wisely recommended. I will get the following tests done as soon as possible:

Total Testosterone

Free Testosterone

SHBG (Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin)

TSH

Free T3

Free T4

LH

FSH


I’m also thinking of adding Vitamin D3 to the panel — do you think that’s a good idea?

Just to clarify: I don’t suffer from anemia or depression. My past labs were within normal ranges for those, and I’ll try to post them as well (if forum rules allow).

Right now, I feel very tired and low energy without any clear cause, which is why I was exploring the idea of microdosing TRT — not for performance or physique, but simply to feel normal again.

Thanks again for the support,
Daniel

 

[Nidus]

Thank you all so much for taking the time to reply — I truly appreciate your insights and different perspectives.

I’ve decided to move forward with bloodwork as my first step, as many of you wisely recommended. I will get the following tests done as soon as possible:

Total Testosterone

Free Testosterone

SHBG (Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin)

TSH

Free T3

Free T4

LH

FSH


I’m also thinking of adding Vitamin D3 to the panel — do you think that’s a good idea?

Just to clarify: I don’t suffer from anemia or depression. My past labs were within normal ranges for those, and I’ll try to post them as well (if forum rules allow).

Right now, I feel very tired and low energy without any clear cause, which is why I was exploring the idea of microdosing TRT — not for performance or physique, but simply to feel normal again.

Thanks again for the support,
Daniel

I'd add things like @Eddie. mentioned and also see if you can get all Lipids, things like Hba1c, Homa and B-Vitamins on top including a full mineral panel (Zinc, Ferritin, Natrium, Potassium, Magnesium etc)

 

[Eddie.]

You better do as many tests as you can afford. My pre gear test were like 4 pages and cost me around 550 euro. If you decide to go on gear you won't have the chance again to have a baseline bloodwork to compare.

Also, not to discourage you but be prepared for the possibility to face pretty good outcome from the labs.

2 years ago when i was 35 i started feeling like you, fatigued, couldn't recover well, my body didn't responded as years back etc. i decided to pull labs and everything was perfect. My test was 650 which is very good for 35yo and ex obese.

I was determined from the start to hop on gear and stay on indefinitely but it would serve me better if my T levels were low, you know..like we all search for excuses to justify our actions. I'm just being honest.

 

[bossetti]

Hi everyone, my name is Daniel, I’m 36 years old and writing to you from Italy. First of all, thank you for the great amount of valuable information you guys share here. I've been silently reading for a while, and now I feel ready to join and share a bit of my story.

For the past few years, I’ve been struggling with chronic fatigue, low energy, and poor recovery. Even after adequate sleep and rest, I often wake up feeling tired and mentally foggy. Despite leading a healthy lifestyle — I follow a balanced diet and regularly supplement with omega-3, vitamin D**, and magnesium bisglycinate— the fatigue persists.

I used to train consistently, but I’ve recently had to pause my workouts due to poor post-training recovery. This has been deeply frustrating, especially because training has always been my outlet.

Here in Italy, unfortunately, it's very difficult to find medical professionals or clinics that take hormonal health seriously unless your testosterone levels are extremely low. I don’t want to jump into anything blindly, which is why I’m planning to do a full panel of bloodwork first — and I'd love to hear from you which specific test you recommend for evaluating overall hormone health and the possibility of low T.

I’ve been considering a low-dose testosterone microdosing protocol, not for performance enhancement or aesthetics, but simply to regain a stable level of energy and improve my quality of life. I know this is an unusual approach and I’m still in the research and learning phase — but I’m genuinely curious: Do you think this kind of protocol could be effective in a case like mine?

Any advice, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks in advance for reading and for any guidance you can provide. Best regards, Daniel

Idk why here in italy they take hormonal health like it isnt serious they probably prefer to just say u feel like shit its just because ur getting older but its not really a good approach lol
For now im not really in to trt/hrt because im young but when im going to be older im going to hop on trt but at like 40 so i have 22 years to not worry about it lol

 

[Hacksquatter]

Idk why here in italy they take hormonal health like it isnt serious they probably prefer to just say u feel like shit its just because ur getting older but its not really a good approach lol
For now im not really in to trt/hrt because im young but when im going to be older im going to hop on trt but at like 40 so i have 22 years to not worry about it lol

Are you also in Italy?

 

[bossetti]

Are you also in Italy?

Yes you didnt saw my name looooooool
Fre bossetti e free pacciani

 

[Hacksquatter]

Yes you didnt saw my name looooooool
Fre bossetti e free pacciani

You are nice, greetings!!

 

[ManK]

Hi everyone, my name is Daniel, I’m 36 years old and writing to you from Italy. First of all, thank you for the great amount of valuable information you guys share here. I've been silently reading for a while, and now I feel ready to join and share a bit of my story.

For the past few years, I’ve been struggling with chronic fatigue, low energy, and poor recovery. Even after adequate sleep and rest, I often wake up feeling tired and mentally foggy. Despite leading a healthy lifestyle — I follow a balanced diet and regularly supplement with omega-3, vitamin D**, and magnesium bisglycinate— the fatigue persists.

I used to train consistently, but I’ve recently had to pause my workouts due to poor post-training recovery. This has been deeply frustrating, especially because training has always been my outlet.

Here in Italy, unfortunately, it's very difficult to find medical professionals or clinics that take hormonal health seriously unless your testosterone levels are extremely low. I don’t want to jump into anything blindly, which is why I’m planning to do a full panel of bloodwork first — and I'd love to hear from you which specific test you recommend for evaluating overall hormone health and the possibility of low T.

I’ve been considering a low-dose testosterone microdosing protocol, not for performance enhancement or aesthetics, but simply to regain a stable level of energy and improve my quality of life. I know this is an unusual approach and I’m still in the research and learning phase — but I’m genuinely curious: Do you think this kind of protocol could be effective in a case like mine?

Any advice, experience, or suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks in advance for reading and for any guidance you can provide. Best regards, Daniel

non serve a una sega....
Ci vivo da anni.

 

[Hacksquatter]

non serve a niente....
Ci vivo da anni.

I didn't understand

 

[dinfar1337]

Idk why here in italy they take hormonal health like it isnt serious they probably prefer to just say u feel like shit its just because ur getting older but its not really a good approach lol
For now im not really in to trt/hrt because im young but when im going to be older im going to hop on trt but at like 40 so i have 22 years to not worry about it lol

idk if its the same in italy like it is in denmark, but speaking with doctors about hormones they demonize it so much. mostly because thats how they're educated so they dont prescibe tax payer free healthcare money trt to patients. anyone below 45 isnt even considered. had to switch doctors 3 times to find someone who is willing to work with me just for basic heart health checkups while i pay for everything else with 3rd party clinics.

 

[ManK]

I didn't understand

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[TheJuiceIsLoose69]

Fatigue has ruined my life. I have likely been borderline hypogonadal since forever. I was in the 300's at 18.

I'm 27 now, the fatigue I have gone through is unreal. Can't open eyes, if someone put a gun to my head most days and said move or die. I'd have said they were doing me a favour.

I have been on TRT for 2.5 months now. In those 2.5 months I have gone from the worst condition of my life(essentially bedridden) to kinda functional and getting better every day.

I'm not cured, but I feel supported. I recover overnight, I can work and then work the next day.

If you are low T getting on TRT will be the best thing you have ever done once you are dialed in.

 

[120nmol]

It’s important that you understand this before you get yourself into this
I started young at the age of 16 wasn’t smart but this is how I learned being on TRT or HRT has its benefits but it’s not magic and you will have to be very committed to this life style of consent blood work injection learning about medication etc etc..
I personally feel fatigue no matter what my T levels are it’s called modern life unfortunately the only thing that wakes me up is adderall basically amphetamines .. not long ago I though maybe it’s my thyroid fucking me up did blood work and t4/t3 including free t4/t3 high as a mofo this is where I understood that life=fatigue..
don’t expect too much from injecting testosterone good luck to you sir!

 

[MrCloud]

so whats ur testosteron level ? you waste so much time fantasizing that youre low on testosterone when you didnt even check it ?

Honestly just pay for testosterone blood work and get the annual free blood work from ur family doctor.

 

[Dex313]

Hormone test and overall bloodwork is important to see where are problems.
Vit d3 is good to know too!

I had fatigue and overall mental problems with low test and started 125 Test Undecanoate/w with 50mg pregnolone and 25mg dhea(mostly used against brain fog) .
5k ius d3 too

Night and day difference