3rd Cycle After Break Help

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Hi
I've read sooo many articles and posts in different sites/forums with my bad English. And i find a different answers for my questions. Because of that, i just want to wrap up everything and i need a approval / confirmation. Can you help me please???
I‘ve hit a plateau and i can’t gain weight exept from fat. Im planning 12 weeks to gain Lean Mass+Strength (but mostly for lean mass) cycle
CURRENT STATS
Last cycle was 2 years ago This will be my 3rd. cycle
My body is too tend to gynecomastia!!!!
Training experience 13 years.
31 years old
168 cm/5.5 feet
85 kg/187,3 lbs
bf:%19 (Jackson/Pollock 4 site caliper method)(i have abdominal fat mostly like a normal weight obese)
I m doing "hybrid" workout for mass and max strength.
I did start to use minoxidil %5 + nizoral shampoo for hair loss about 1 year ago

Planning This Cycle :
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate: 500 mg/week (Tuesday and Friday 250mgx2)
Week ? - ?: I want to add 1 more drug like boldenone, masteron, primo etc -check questions section please-) but i cant be sure
Week 1-12: Salbutamol: 20mg/day (with ketotifen 1mg/day)
Week 1-14: Arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 2-14: HCG 500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)
Post Cycle Therapy (14 days after last injection):
Week 1-4: clomid: 75+50+50+50 mg
Week 1-4: nolvadex : 40+20+20+20 mg

QUESTIONS
1- I want to add 2nd. drug to this cycle because i'm not using steroids systematical or consistently(i cant find the right word) So im doing only 1 or 2 times aas cycle in a year. And my last cycle was about 2 years ago (Test E+ Deca+Methyltest.) According to this situation, Which drug should i add? masterone, deca, primo etc ???

2- If i add add 2nd drug to this cycle, Is 500iu/week hcg and 0,5mg arimidex eod is enough dose for mct?

3- I have Pregnyl 5000iu . People says if i mix with bacteriostatic water and keep it in the fridge (2-6 C celsius with sealed vial), i can use this mix safely for a 90 days. If its true, i can done my “entire” 12weeks cycle with only 1 ampoule hcg + 10ml bac water. But is this true?????
THANKS

 

[mkulltra58]

Since you are looking to put on lean mass and seem pretty set on adding second compound, I would personally recommend adding Deca at 400-500mg and extend cycle to 16 weeks. This is just my personal opinion. I really liked Deca as a lean bulking compound. I also felt great on it.

 

[Wunderpus]

Either deca or NPP for an injectable. Eq would be fine too.

For orals Tbol or anavar would be nice.

GL.

 

[Big_paul]

Everyone has an opinion. Here's mine. I'm down with primo or mast. Only problem is being certain your gear is legit. Primo or mast will make it easier to control E2.

I like eq , but unless you add 3-4 week, I don't think it would be a good choice.

 

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Thanks for the answers guys i will choose deca. And go like this:
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate 500 mg/week (Tuesday and Friday 250mgx2)
Week 1-12: Deca Durabolin 500 mg/ week (Same Days as test e 250mgx2)
Week 1-14: arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 2-14: hcg 500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)

Is it good like this ??? and/or still should i go 14-16 weeks?? AND what do you think my other questions
THANKS AGAIN

 

[mands]

Thanks for the answers guys i will choose deca. And go like this:
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate 500 mg/week (Tuesday and Friday 250mgx2)
Week 1-12: Deca Durabolin 500 mg/ week (Same Days as test e 250mgx2)
Week 1-14: arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 2-14: hcg 500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)

Is it good like this ??? and/or still should i go 14-16 weeks?? AND what do you think my other questions
THANKS AGAIN

I do not like that you are stopping your deca same as test. When are you starting PCT?

mands

 

[mkulltra58]

Thanks for the answers guys i will choose deca. And go like this:
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate 500 mg/week (Tuesday and Friday 250mgx2)
Week 1-12: Deca Durabolin 500 mg/ week (Same Days as test e 250mgx2)
Week 1-14: arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 2-14: hcg 500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)

Is it good like this ??? and/or still should i go 14-16 weeks?? AND what do you think my other questions
THANKS AGAIN

I would run it for 16 weeks. 1-14 Deca, 1-16 Test E. Your hcg and adex dose are fine. Adjust adex with mid-cycle bloods if needed.

 

[X-BODY]

Hi
Sorry for the late answer and thanks for your help.

I did chance my mind. I find orijinal primo (and sustanon too) from my friend (he is a pharmacist)
Now, im planing test propionate OR sustanon 500 + primo 400 for 12 weeks. AND i start low carb diet to lower my bf. before cycle.
But I want to ask one more question: Can i use sustanon instead of propionate (with primo)???
NOTE: Sorry for my bad English again THANKS

Either deca or NPP for an injectable. Eq would be fine too.

For orals Tbol or anavar would be nice.

GL.

Everyone has an opinion. Here's mine. I'm down with primo or mast. Only problem is being certain your gear is legit. Primo or mast will make it easier to control E2.

I like eq , but unless you add 3-4 week, I don't think it would be a good choice.

I do not like that you are stopping your deca same as test. When are you starting PCT?

mands

I would run it for 16 weeks. 1-14 Deca, 1-16 Test E. Your hcg and adex dose are fine. Adjust adex with mid-cycle bloods if needed.

 

[Wunderpus]

Hi
Sorry for the late answer and thanks for your help.

I did chance my mind. I find orijinal primo (and sustanon too) from my friend (he is a pharmacist)
Now, im planing test propionate OR sustanon 500 + primo 400 for 12 weeks. AND i start low carb diet to lower my bf. before cycle.
But I want to ask one more question: Can i use sustanon instead of propionate (with primo)???
NOTE: Sorry for my bad English again THANKS

That would be fine. Just pin them every other day.

 

[Agrex110]

my opinion

dont do deca at a high bf like yours.
masteron wouldnt be useful for anyone above single digits
eq is good if you run it 16-20 weeks. anything less, you wont get the full benefits
do tren instead. youll cut so much fat and gain crazy strength

 

[CdnGuy]

my opinion

dont do deca at a high bf like yours.
masteron wouldnt be useful for anyone above single digits
eq is good if you run it 16-20 weeks. anything less, you wont get the full benefits
do tren instead. youll cut so much fat and gain crazy strength

Really ?
New here-looking to learn

 

[Agrex110]

its what ive researched. Do masteron at a high bf and tell me how it is.

do eq for 12 weeks and tell me how it treats u

Yea u can cut on deca, but u can cut even better on tren. his bf is 19percent. thats a lot

 

[Ozzy619]

Hi
I've read sooo many articles and posts in different sites/forums with my bad English. And i find a different answers for my questions. Because of that, i just want to wrap up everything and i need a approval / confirmation. Can you help me please???
I‘ve hit a plateau and i can’t gain weight exept from fat. Im planning 12 weeks to gain Lean Mass+Strength (but mostly for lean mass) cycle
CURRENT STATS
Last cycle was 2 years ago This will be my 3rd. cycle
My body is too tend to gynecomastia!!!!
Training experience 13 years.
31 years old
168 cm/5.5 feet
85 kg/187,3 lbs
bf:%19 (Jackson/Pollock 4 site caliper method)(i have abdominal fat mostly like a normal weight obese)
I m doing "hybrid" workout for mass and max strength.
I did start to use minoxidil %5 + nizoral shampoo for hair loss about 1 year ago

Planning This Cycle :
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate: 500 mg/week (Tuesday and Friday 250mgx2)
Week ? - ?: I want to add 1 more drug like boldenone, masteron, primo etc -check questions section please-) but i cant be sure
Week 1-12: Salbutamol: 20mg/day (with ketotifen 1mg/day)
Week 1-14: Arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 2-14: HCG 500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)
Post Cycle Therapy (14 days after last injection):
Week 1-4: clomid: 75+50+50+50 mg
Week 1-4: nolvadex : 40+20+20+20 mg

QUESTIONS
1- I want to add 2nd. drug to this cycle because i'm not using steroids systematical or consistently(i cant find the right word) So im doing only 1 or 2 times aas cycle in a year. And my last cycle was about 2 years ago (Test E+ Deca+Methyltest.) According to this situation, Which drug should i add? masterone, deca, primo etc ???

2- If i add add 2nd drug to this cycle, Is 500iu/week hcg and 0,5mg arimidex eod is enough dose for mct?

3- I have Pregnyl 5000iu . People says if i mix with bacteriostatic water and keep it in the fridge (2-6 C celsius with sealed vial), i can use this mix safely for a 90 days. If its true, i can done my “entire” 12weeks cycle with only 1 ampoule hcg + 10ml bac water. But is this true?????
THANKS

Either deca or NPP for an injectable. Eq would be fine too.

For orals Tbol or anavar would be nice.

GL.

This is what I would recommend as well. I prefer tbol over anavar personally. Also drop your first week of clomid to 50 and the last two weeks to 25. Deca pct would be around the 21 day mark.

 

[Big_paul]

Hi
Sorry for the late answer and thanks for your help.

I did chance my mind. I find orijinal primo (and sustanon too) from my friend (he is a pharmacist)
Now, im planing test propionate OR sustanon 500 + primo 400 for 12 weeks. AND i start low carb diet to lower my bf. before cycle.
But I want to ask one more question: Can i use sustanon instead of propionate (with primo)???
NOTE: Sorry for my bad English again THANKS

Sure. No problem.

 

[Big_paul]

Hi
Sorry for the late answer and thanks for your help.

I did chance my mind. I find orijinal primo (and sustanon too) from my friend (he is a pharmacist)
Now, im planing test propionate OR sustanon 500 + primo 400 for 12 weeks. AND i start low carb diet to lower my bf. before cycle.
But I want to ask one more question: Can i use sustanon instead of propionate (with primo)???
NOTE: Sorry for my bad English again THANKS

Sure bro either. Test p or sust. Sust is more steady than test propionate.

 

[Leangains4life]

Hi
I've read sooo many articles and posts in different sites/forums with my bad English. And i find a different answers for my questions. Because of that, i just want to wrap up everything and i need a approval / confirmation. Can you help me please???
I‘ve hit a plateau and i can’t gain weight exept from fat. Im planning 12 weeks to gain Lean Mass+Strength (but mostly for lean mass) cycle
CURRENT STATS
Last cycle was 2 years ago This will be my 3rd. cycle
My body is too tend to gynecomastia!!!!
Training experience 13 years.
31 years old
168 cm/5.5 feet
85 kg/187,3 lbs
bf:%19 (Jackson/Pollock 4 site caliper method)(i have abdominal fat mostly like a normal weight obese)
I m doing "hybrid" workout for mass and max strength.
I did start to use minoxidil %5 + nizoral shampoo for hair loss about 1 year ago

Planning This Cycle :
Week 1-12: Test Enanthate: 500 mg/week (Tuesday and Friday 250mgx2)
Week ? - ?: I want to add 1 more drug like boldenone, masteron, primo etc -check questions section please-) but i cant be sure
Week 1-12: Salbutamol: 20mg/day (with ketotifen 1mg/day)
Week 1-14: Arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 2-14: HCG 500 iu (Monday and Thursday 250 iu x2)
Post Cycle Therapy (14 days after last injection):
Week 1-4: clomid: 75+50+50+50 mg
Week 1-4: nolvadex : 40+20+20+20 mg

QUESTIONS
1- I want to add 2nd. drug to this cycle because i'm not using steroids systematical or consistently(i cant find the right word) So im doing only 1 or 2 times aas cycle in a year. And my last cycle was about 2 years ago (Test E+ Deca+Methyltest.) According to this situation, Which drug should i add? masterone, deca, primo etc ???

2- If i add add 2nd drug to this cycle, Is 500iu/week hcg and 0,5mg arimidex eod is enough dose for mct?

3- I have Pregnyl 5000iu . People says if i mix with bacteriostatic water and keep it in the fridge (2-6 C celsius with sealed vial), i can use this mix safely for a 90 days. If its true, i can done my “entire” 12weeks cycle with only 1 ampoule hcg + 10ml bac water. But is this true?????
THANKS

I would add 600mg masteron and go to 800 test.. Immdoing a high test with mast e cylenand has to be ny favrit so far!! I feel energy all day and gains are coming good. Some will say masteron does nothing but i can tell you it does. My next cycle will be 800 test-600 masteron and 450 deca

 

[X-BODY]

Thanks guys. Then i will go like this:
Week 1-14: Sustanon 500mg/week (250x2 times tues-thurs)
Week 1-14: Primobolan 600mg/week (200x3 times mon-wed-fri OR 300x2 times)
Week 1-16: Arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 1-16: HCG 500 iu (250 iu x2)
Q: Should i add Proviron during cycle too? and i will start pct in 18 days after last injection?
PCT (18 days after last injection):
Week 1-4: clomid: 50+50+25+25 mg
Week 1-4: nolvadex : 40+20+20+20 mg

That would be fine. Just pin them every other day.

This is what I would recommend as well. I prefer tbol over anavar personally. Also drop your first week of clomid to 50 and the last two weeks to 25. Deca pct would be around the 21 day mark.

Sure bro either. Test p or sust. Sust is more steady than test propionate.

I would add 600mg masteron and go to 800 test.. Immdoing a high test with mast e cylenand has to be ny favrit so far!! I feel energy all day and gains are coming good. Some will say masteron does nothing but i can tell you it does. My next cycle will be 800 test-600 masteron and 450 deca

 

[Wunderpus]

Thanks guys. Then i will go like this:
Week 1-14: Sustanon 500mg/week (250x2 times tues-thurs)
Week 1-14: Primobolan 600mg/week (200x3 times mon-wed-fri OR 300x2 times)
Week 1-16: Arimidex 0,5mg (Every Other Day)
Week 1-16: HCG 500 iu (250 iu x2)
Q: Should i add Proviron during cycle too? and i will start pct in 18 days after last injection?
PCT (18 days after last injection):
Week 1-4: clomid: 50+50+25+25 mg
Week 1-4: nolvadex : 40+20+20+20 mg

Proviron is unnecessary, but it won't hurt if you have it. I actually like using proviron.

 

[X-BODY]

Proviron is unnecessary, but it won't hurt if you have it. I actually like using proviron.

Sorry for the late answer and thanks for your help
I have one more question, I can't be sure about injection times/days. As i mention my previous post, if i go like that, i need to do injections every day (with HCG) except weekends. :/ Do you have any recommendations or schedule for this or it is good?
AND
I m thinking to extend cycle to 16 weeks instead of 14 weeks. What do you think ?

 

[mands]

Sorry for the late answer and thanks for your help
I have one more question, I can't be sure about injection times/days. As i mention my previous post, if i go like that, i need to do injections every day (with HCG) except weekends. :/ Do you have any recommendations or schedule for this or it is good?
AND
I m thinking to extend cycle to 16 weeks instead of 14 weeks. What do you think ?

You already stated you would run your hcg mon. and thurs. Just stick to that.

mands