3rd cycle test and npp light Gyno anyone else have this

[Getbignotdietrying]

Faauuccckkk go pay to have the shit removed. You will induce all these drugs every time you cycle. Not worth it

Trust me... I’m thinking about it. And I got my shit under control for now. But if I’m going to continue cycling may just want to have those things removed and call it a day. Just gotta make sure doc gets it out COMPLETELY.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

Update: nipple sensitivity is gone at .25 Ed adex and 20mg Ed nolva. Lumps are still there larger one behind right nipple. But that whole sensitivity thing tells me I have it under control. Just touching my nipple felt like someone pinched my nipple. Hoping lumps go down they are not too visible. Also getting like a jump in my jaw maybe from npp?

 

[Oldschool]

How is your bloodwork looking? Lol.

 

[Savagesteve]

Nolva wont do nothing if its prolactin from npp

^^^^this right here. Get some bloodwork ASAP and go from there.

 

[Oldschool]

^^^^this right here. Get some bloodwork ASAP and go from there.

Surprised nobody has ripped op's head off about no bloodwork. Nice to see you around Savage.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

Surprised nobody has ripped op's head off about no bloodwork. Nice to see you around Savage.

I’ve gotten bloodwork mid way through every cycle. I’m going in a trip next week will be getting bloods done when I get back. This kicked in about 3 weeks into test only. Added npp after. Have caber on hand but do t exactly want to take something that strong unless necessary.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

How is your bloodwork looking? Lol.

Lol. Last cycle I ran bloods did not show elevated prolactin but did show e2 at 86 which was a little high. I was taking .25 adex eod and 10mg nolva, this time I’m running pretty much double that to keep it lower. May drop nolva to 10mg after bloods.

 

[Oldschool]

I’ve gotten bloodwork mid way through every cycle. I’m going in a trip next week will be getting bloods done when I get back. This kicked in about 3 weeks into test only. Added npp after. Have caber on hand but do t exactly want to take something that strong unless necessary.

If you cycle you should check your blood not only mid cycle but after pct to make sure you have recovered properly. Dont be the guy that has bloodwork labs 30 minutes away and be lazy. Take care of yourself bro.

 

[Dr JIM]

this my third cycle. First was test only with hcg and zero Gyno or nipple sensitivity. 2nd cycle was test at I think 400 and npp at 300 with hcg, got sensitivity and developed a lump under each nipple and freaked out lol. Got it under control with nolva and adex. This time around only 3 weeks into test 600mg (I’ll be adding npp at 450mg today) nipple sensitivity and lump came in RUNNING. Hadn’t started taking adds yet because it was too soon. Guess once it pops up in a cycle it’ll always be there ‍. Anyways started taking .25 adex eod and 10mg nolva daily. And so far got it under control. Anyone else have similar experiences ? How’d you get it under control?

You might wanna get some labs, see a HCP and obtain objective evidence of GCM bc MANY who believe they have gynecomastia DON’T.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

If you cycle you should check your blood not only mid cycle but after pct to make sure you have recovered properly. Dont be the guy that has bloodwork labs 30 minutes away and be lazy. Take care of yourself bro.

For sure... not like the 90.00 gonna make me homeless lol. I’ll be getting bloods next week.

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

You might wanna get some labs, see a HCP and obtain objective evidence of GCM bc MANY who believe they have gynecomastia DON’T.

Dr.Jim thanks for chiming I’m brother, you’re advice is always much appreciated. It’s a pretty big fatty lump behind the nipple that wasn’t there before and came out about 3wks into cycle (I should have started taking adex much sooner) that was my fault. But I do plan on running some rali after pct to see if that gets it down. Though it does feel like it has decreased a little in size.

 

[Dr JIM]

Tamoxifen can accelerate the clearance time of anastrozole and letrozole.

Correct but like many other “statistically significant” associations the impact is/was NOT clinically relevant.

Thus although one drug (X) may alter the clearance of another drug (Y) the combined effect (X + Y) does NOT impact either drugs therapeutic efficacy.

And THAT means the benefit of both drugs is maintained and does not require
a dosage modification per se.

JIM

 

[Getbignotdietrying]

Correct but like many other “statistically significant” associations the impact is/was NOT clinically relevant.

Thus although one drug (X) may alter the clearance of another drug (Y) the combined effect (X + Y) does NOT impact either drugs therapeutic efficacy.

And THAT means the benefit of both drugs is maintained and does not require
a dosage modification per se.

JIM

Pretty sure we had this discussion at some point last year. And that is why I started on nolva back then. Thanks again Dr.Jim

 

[Dr JIM]

Faauuccckkk go pay to have the shit removed. You will induce all these drugs every time you cycle. Not worth it

You are on point here mate and that’s why an imaging study is really important

If “you” have or are predisposed to GCM
yet wanna use PEDs the development of bitch tits is the antithesis of what anyone would want.

And the rollercoster ride of anti estrogens to combat this problem is often worse than the disease itself.

Thus not withstanding discontinuing PEDs the cure lies in surgical removal.

Jim

 

[Savagesteve]

Surprised nobody has ripped op's head off about no bloodwork. Nice to see you around Savage.

Thanks man. I still pop in occasionally but have had a lot of shit going on. Good seeing ya as well.

 

[The Terminator]

Correct but like many other “statistically significant” associations the impact is/was NOT clinically relevant.

Thus although one drug (X) may alter the clearance of another drug (Y) the combined effect (X + Y) does NOT impact either drugs therapeutic efficacy.

And THAT means the benefit of both drugs is maintained and does not require
a dosage modification per se.

JIM

Ah I see, they make it sound like there will be grave consequences for cancer patients on those sites like webmd etc. Makes sense tho as you’re supposed to avoid grapefruit or cimetidine with benzos but I ignored this and didn’t actually feel the medication was potentiated.

 

[Dr JIM]

Ah I see, they make it sound like there will be grave consequences for cancer patients on those sites like webmd etc. Makes sense tho as you’re supposed to avoid grapefruit or cimetidine with benzos but I ignored this and didn’t actually feel the medication was potentiated.

Yea but once again while there are a few exceptions that may occur in subset of folk, such as those who are on ttghtly controlled drugs such as Digitalis and Warfarin, the net effect is more often than not one of statistical rather than clinical significance.

Jim