400 lb benchers

[Tatersalad]

I know all about it brother. Crazy strength with tren and adrol (and a test suspension/TNE preworkout for max out days).

With your liver, if you're running blind basically without any idea of liver values, that should make you use more caution. The stress from adrol should definitely lead you to take more than time off = time on IME.

What's halo like compared to anadrol

 

[wsmwannabe]

What's halo like compared to anadrol

no comparison IMO. I used 100mg anadrol at my last competition, and I felt like it helped give me a boost (I only ran it the day before and the day of the comp) and help me set a couple PR's.

IMO halo is the closest you'll get to "magic" with respect to steroids. The strength gains are immediate and significant. I have taken 10mg on two different lifting days ans set several PR's between the 2 days. And this was in the middle of a strength block, not deloaded and fresh going into a competition. I also don't get increased aggression or rage with it either as many have reported, at least not at that dose

With that said, a sudden increase in muscular strength DOES NOT EQUAL a sudden increase in tendon strength, so keep that in mind. Also, halo is apparently highly toxic.

 

[Switcher]

I basically think this is a good idea. I have some thoughts about this common (advisable so long as you compete enough) practice though:
- Firstly, how do you set PRs/PBs with a mindset that going for a max is more likely to cause injury than more reps at 90%? I honestly think that's a difficult mindset to overcome and could act as a strong mental block.
- How can reps at X% truly equate to something that is so mental to overcome?
- What about the specificity of training in a rep range for strengthening that rep range; e.g., repping triples at ~90%, adding weight to your 3RM, over time, are you just building specific strength for those rep ranges- consider, too, that as we become more advanced we likely need more specific loading to progress.

That is a curious perspective. If you do everything right, it should be the same movement so you shouldn't get hurt via the mechanics. My unproven theory is that the body, being pushed to its maximum, kinda magnifies any weaknesses you had that not going the to maximum was able to hide.

My main data point, I reference for my individual situation, is that I know I don't need wraps below 300. I am fine and my connective tissue is fine. Once I get over 300, I better start wrapping the elbows or I will be sore for a few weeks after.

 

[Tatersalad]

Some of my fears and holdbacks and setback concerns and stuff probably seem a little strange. You all have to remember some of you have been superhumans in strength for a substantial period of time, lol sometimes I feel like an experimental science project with all this increased mass and strength. I ain't used to it yet.

 

[Tatersalad]

I repped 325 3 times on incline bench. Just shook my head and said "Good Lord"

 

[adamcarpenter]

Take that 385 lbs and go for a double. That equates to a 400-405 1 rm. Or better yet, do a triple with 360 because that equates the same. Work in doubles and triples so that you’re using lighter weight with less risk of injury. Then do an iso hold with 405. Out of the rack and just hold it for 5-10 seconds to get use to that weight. That will increase your confidence. The toughest part of the PR is mental. That “fuck it’s heavy” that pops into your head will cause you to fail each time.

My best was 425 lbs in competition with a pause last summer.

Im curious about the calculations your making, how do you get those numbers?

 

[MindlessWork]

I repped 325 3 times on incline bench. Just shook my head and said "Good Lord"

That's darn good for incline.

 

[Tatersalad]

That last inch is the fucking hardest.
I've been totally unable to add size to my arms after 18.5

How much do you weigh though. I'm at 233-238 depends on water. If you're alot leaner 18.5 looks huge

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

I basically think this is a good idea. I have some thoughts about this common (advisable so long as you compete enough) practice though:
- Firstly, how do you set PRs/PBs with a mindset that going for a max is more likely to cause injury than more reps at 90%? I honestly think that's a difficult mindset to overcome and could act as a strong mental block.
- How can reps at X% truly equate to something that is so mental to overcome?
- What about the specificity of training in a rep range for strengthening that rep range; e.g., repping triples at ~90%, adding weight to your 3RM, over time, are you just building specific strength for those rep ranges- consider, too, that as we become more advanced we likely need more specific loading to progress.

No, sorry but I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was suggesting to @Tatersalad try a few doubles and triples as opposed to just going straight to his 400 lb bench goal. He’s getting close and guys are recommending halo and Anadrol to put him up to that 400 lbs. Thats begging for an injury.

He should see how he does pressing lower weight for reps that coincide with 400 lbs. That would show just how close he is, w/ less injury risk. I think it’s a more realistic approach.

So 385 lbs moves quick for him and he nails the double. Perfect. Take the week off for some active recovery, then pick a day, pop his favorite oral and see if he can smash that 400 lb goal.

If 385 moves fast for one rep but then the 2nd rep doesn’t move, then he knows he’s got a little more work to do. Stick to his program for another month or two and repeat.

He doesn’t want to risk injury here. It would set him back. Most powerlifters only max out at competitions or every 4+ months. You don’t get stronger going for PRs every week. Lol, that’s what we did as eager Freshman for football.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Im curious about the calculations your making, how do you get those numbers?

Online max rep calculator. Plug in the numbers and reps that equate to the calculator spitting out 400 lbs.

 

[Type-IIx]

No, sorry but I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was suggesting to @Tatersalad try a few doubles and triples as opposed to just going straight to his 400 lb bench goal. He’s getting close and guys are recommending halo and Anadrol to put him up to that 400 lbs. Thats begging for an injury.

He should see how he does pressing lower weight for reps that coincide with 400 lbs. That would show just how close he is, w/ less injury risk. I think it’s a more realistic approach.

So 385 lbs moves quick for him and he nails the double. Perfect. Take the week off for some active recovery, then pick a day, pop his favorite oral and see if he can smash that 400 lb goal.

If 385 moves fast for one rep but then the 2nd rep doesn’t move, then he knows he’s got a little more work to do. Stick to his program for another month or two and repeat.

He doesn’t want to risk injury here. It would set him back. Most powerlifters only max out at competitions or every 4+ months. You don’t get stronger going for PRs every week. Lol, that’s what we did as eager Freshman for football.

I like the idea of making it click with heavy but not max weight. I like autoregulation and I think you started off strong here. What I dislike is that you didn't address a single question I asked and challenged my reading comprehension to misrepresent what I said as "going for a PR every week."

If you think plugging a number into an online 1RM calculator, which all disagree with one another, tells you anything, or that going for PRs more than 2x a year is for pussies, well OK bro.

 

[Tatersalad]

2:37 AM. 405 x 1 on smith machine. I've reached 2 goals this month. 400 bench and 20 inch arms. Thanks guys

 

[Jet Labs]

For guys who want to hit all time PR's with flat bench I suggest you focus on HEAVY dumbbell chest presses(mainly decline and flat)as well as decline barbell press training chest 3x per week and attempting max lifts once per month.

 

[MindlessWork]

For guys who want to hit all time PR's with flat bench I suggest you focus on HEAVY dumbbell chest presses(mainly decline and flat)as well as decline barbell press training chest 3x per week and attempting max lifts once per month.

That sounds worthwhile and I do those occasionally. Can decline with 100lb db's or 315 barbell (with spotter) on my best days as long as my beat-up shoulders stay quiet LOL.

 

[Tatersalad]

I been doing super heavy triceps. Yesterday I was on tricep extension machine, it goes to 200lbs. I maxed it out easily and ended up doing single arm sets at 140lbs. That was the confirmation for me cause I knew then if I can just bump 400 off my chest and get the triceps underneath it that I had it in the bag