48 year-old man presently on low dose TRT needs advice on first cycle

[djk]

Good morning,

I am a 48 year-old man who has been training with weights regularly for the past five years. I have decided to introduce AAS into my regimen. I was hoping the more experienced members could read this, and perhaps give me some guidance.

Perhaps the first thing I should report is that I was put on TRT three years ago. The doctor had me on 60 mg a week. I did feel better, but it was nowhere near what I was hoping for in terms of relief from a sub 300 case of low T. I was uneducated, so I just went along with it. The improvements I did experience were, I believe, more attributable to my educating myself on diet and training. I got better body composition wise, and I felt better (more importantly). At the time, I was living in another state, and because of a job loss, I had to move back to my old home town, with no health insurance. I was able to finagle a couple vials of Test C, and I experimented with 100 mg a week (crazy, huh?). Also, because I knew I only had two vials and would take some major time for insurance and a willing Endo to treat me, I used it sporadically. I did continue to train and practice sound nutrition.

Short story long, I ordered some Test E (first from a by-all-accounts-disreputable source according to forum members, then from an overseas source I found here who had excellent references). I also ordered Tren E as an ancillary to the Test E (I am planning on using sane dosages of both, though I do know I am taking a chance with the Tren). I also have ordered Arimex for my AI.

My question is, and I do not know if I should mention the less reputable source by name, should I wait a week for the more reputable supplier’s gear to arrive? I do not even know if I should just throw the less reputable supplier’s gear away (220 bucks I hate to lose).

In any case, keeping in mind that I have been doing 100 mg a week of Test C, what do you think of the following (I am a small guy, 5’6” and 175 pounds)…

After frontlading 750 Test E and 750 Tren E I switch to 250 Test E and 150 Tren E every three days. I am also going to be taking .25 Arimex every other day. I plan on doing a twelve week cycle, after which, I plan on resuming with 300 Test E a week.

I appreciate any feedback the more knowledgeable members could provide.

 

[djk]

I may as well go ahead and name the first supplier :HGHDreambody (Omega Labs)

 

[stang4u2nv]

I would not use the bad source gear. The good about trt is that you dont need pct but only on cycle ancillaries such as arimidex and hcg. At your age i would be inclined to say go nuts but seems you havent been training for a long time considering you are 48. So take my advise as only that. Run 200mg of test E weekly (a bit higher than your trt dose). Then throw in the trenbolone but yes BUT, lower your dose and dont front load anything. You will never know what hit you if your body doesnt tolerate the tren. Being an enathate prepare for it to kick your ass and be able to do nothing about it.

 

[djk]

Okay- so no front loading of Test E or Tren? Cut Tren down how much from the 300 week I was planning?

Thanks for your reply

 

[djk]

Also, if you could elaborate on the cycling of the Arimidex (at the end of the cycle? along with HCG?)

Thanks

 

[stang4u2nv]

No, cut down the test to 200 a week and leave the tren at 350 a week or 50mg daily. Then increase tren if you feel the need after a good assessment of results within your cycle.

 

[stang4u2nv]

I can almost garantee you wont need arimidex with this cycle as there will be very little aromatization. (Trenbolone doesnt aromatize) and since test is on the conservative side you will be golden. But you must have arimidex on hand just in case ok?. Arimidex is used during the cycle in case of gyno symptoms only or bloods come back with higher than normal estro in blood. Hcg during cycle as well 500-1000 iu's a week for the whole cycle to keep your nuts their normal size.

 

[penche]

First timer trying tren eh? Be careful op, tren is usually for the more experienced consumers. Keep track of your libido dosing the tren higher than your baseline test. Some folks respond different to tren in concern to sex drive. Whatever you do, I would highly suggest getting some blood work after 4 weeks in to see where your hormone, lipid, and liver panel show. You can do the blood work without a doc, privatemdlabs.

 

[ErikR]

Some may not agree with me but I wouldn't recommend tren for you as a first cycle. You being 48 years old and never cycled before. Tren is a harsh compound with a lot of side effects for many. On top of that its tren e. If your sides get bad you will have to wait a while for it to stop do to the long ester. If you really want to jump on do 300-500 mg test for your first cycle. If your dead set on doing tren at least do tren ace in case you can't handle the sides.

 

[djk]

I can almost garantee you wont need arimidex with this cycle as there will be very little aromatization. (Trenbolone doesnt aromatize) and since test is on the conservative side you will be golden. But you must have arimidex on hand just in case ok?. Arimidex is used during the cycle in case of gyno symptoms only or bloods come back with higher than normal estro in blood. Hcg during cycle as well 500-1000 iu's a week for the whole cycle to keep your nuts their normal size.

So HCG during the cycle?

 

[stang4u2nv]

Yes, also read what others have posted. Tren is a very magical compound but hard if you cant handle it. So be careful.

 

[djk]

Some may not agree with me but I wouldn't recommend tren for you as a first cycle. You being 48 years old and never cycled before. Tren is a harsh compound with a lot of side effects for many. On top of that its tren e. If your sides get bad you will have to wait a while for it to stop do to the long ester. If you really want to jump on do 300-500 mg test for your first cycle. If your dead set on doing tren at least do tren ace in case you can't handle the sides.

I should have looked into this more before I ordered. The Tren E is on the way. Perhaps 200 week would be reasonable (remember, 5'6" 175)? I am a very composed person with no temper issues. I gather that, if you are referring to behavioral side affects, that AAS' aggressiveness makes ill-tempered people more disagreeable, whereas the more level -headed may not be as much at risk. Are you concerned that the Tren E may have psychological impact (I have never noticed any aggressiveness on my, albeit minute, TRT therapy)?

 

[stang4u2nv]

Well tren can make the level headed not so leveled but i believe the first few weeks on tren acetate will be crucial , however on enanthate you wont know until its in your system full blown. Order tren ace one vial and start with that then if ok add the enanthate so your money isnt lost.

 

[djk]

First timer trying tren eh? Be careful op, tren is usually for the more experienced consumers. Keep track of your libido dosing the tren higher than your baseline test. Some folks respond different to tren in concern to sex drive. Whatever you do, I would highly suggest getting some blood work after 4 weeks in to see where your hormone, lipid, and liver panel show. You can do the blood work without a doc, privatemdlabs.

When you say monitor libido, do you mean I could experience eithedr an increase or decrease? Would a decrease be symptomatic of an improper dose, or a sign that Tren should be completely removed from the cycle?

 

[djk]

Okay, would another scenario in which Tren A is introduced later in the cycle be plausible?

 

[djk]

First timer trying tren eh? Be careful op, tren is usually for the more experienced consumers. Keep track of your libido dosing the tren higher than your baseline test. Some folks respond different to tren in concern to sex drive. Whatever you do, I would highly suggest getting some blood work after 4 weeks in to see where your hormone, lipid, and liver panel show. You can do the blood work without a doc, privatemdlabs.

Curious, would that be better than LEF's blood work, which by the way is $75?

 

[djk]

I would not use the bad source gear. The good about trt is that you dont need pct but only on cycle ancillaries such as arimidex and hcg. At your age i would be inclined to say go nuts but seems you havent been training for a long time considering you are 48. So take my advise as only that. Run 200mg of test E weekly (a bit higher than your trt dose). Then throw in the trenbolone but yes BUT, lower your dose and dont front load anything. You will never know what hit you if your body doesnt tolerate the tren. Being an enathate prepare for it to kick your ass and be able to do nothing about it.

Is it a foregone conclusion the HGH Omega labs gear is bunk? Sheesh, that bums me out

 

[stang4u2nv]

No, the whole point is to assess before jumping ship to an emanthate. Op i know all of this sounds scary and dangerous and it very much is. If you are hesitant then research much more to the point where you will feel comfortable learning all of this. I found knowing about the sides made me feel comfortable as i knew what to expect. Definitely this forum helped me down that path when first encountering trenbolone.

 

[djk]

No, the whole point is to assess before jumping ship to an emanthate. Op i know all of this sounds scary and dangerous and it very much is. If you are hesitant then research much more to the point where you will feel comfortable learning all of this. I found knowing about the sides made me feel comfortable as i knew what to expect. Definitely this forum helped me down that path when first encountering trenbolone.

How many cycles did you do before trying Tren, if you mind me asking?

 

[ErikR]

I should have looked into this more before I ordered. The Tren E is on the way. Perhaps 200 week would be reasonable (remember, 5'6" 175)? I am a very composed person with no temper issues. I gather that, if you are referring to behavioral side affects, that AAS' aggressiveness makes ill-tempered people more disagreeable, whereas the more level -headed may not be as much at risk. Are you concerned that the Tren E may have psychological impact (I have never noticed any aggressiveness on my, albeit minute, TRT therapy)?

The temper sides of tren are the least of it. Common sides are high bp. Insomnia. Night sweats. A general feeling like shit. tren is on a different level then other aas. In my opinion tren should be left for guys with a few cycles under their belt.