50 Year Old Man, intentions, history, open to suggestions

[Baby Gains]

Hi, I'm going to be 52 years old this year. I'm on my second year of injectable TRT through my local clinic. I Started with 160 split weekly, and now I'm tolerating 180 split weekly very well. I take .5 Anastrozole a week, and it makes a huge difference with my mood / concentration. I trained as a powerlifter in the 80's up to the age of 17, and totaled 1150 pounds in three lifts in one competition at 16. I never used enhancing drugs until I started TRT.
I've always worked labor intensive jobs, and it wasn't until 8 years ago that I decided to tackle health and fitness. I changed my diet, began daily notebooks of my progress in the small gym I made for myself, and dealt with my injuries and surgeries with passion and patience.
I am under the supervision of doctors at my clinic concerning my TRT, and I have regular full panel blood work done.
I'm here to learn, and the only "source" I would consider for any type of testosterone add on, would come from an approved compounding pharmacy and a written prescription. This is something I've recently discussed with my clinic, and Oxandrolone / Anavar is something they would like to offer, but claim to have difficulty finding a pharmacy they can work with.
My out of pocket cost for HRT is expensive, but the service is flawless, and the location is 15 minutes drive from my home. If I'm going to give my very best in life, in the gym, and at the dinner table, then I only want the best supplements going in my body. That's what seems fair to me. I researched Anavar because of the good reviews from multiple sources online, and feel like a low dose, short cycle is something I would excel with as a first timer, just seeing how well my body tolerated the medication. But I'm no expert, and welcome any suggestions or insight. I'm 50 + years old and have obvious joint issues that require about 6 hours a week with strict stretching routines, and PT (learned from paid 1-2 month outpatient physical therapy appointments) for recurring issues like shoulder impingement. Everything that I do outside of the gym, dictates just how hard I can push myself when I have the OPPORTUNITY to do resistance training. It took years to learn this, and is likely going to be the foundation that supports me as I continue to age. I look forward to comments and suggestions. Sincerely, Baby Gains

 

[laclark89]

Prescribed anavar is about to be extinct.

We have similar natty genetics strength wise enless ur a tiny dude. I had a 3 lift total of 1100-1200 pounds at that age. Whats ur height and weight.

 

[lukiss96]

Hey man, I like the the motivation! Awesome introduction and all I can wish you is keep on going!

 

[Baby Gains]

Prescribed anavar is about to be extinct.

We have similar natty genetics strength wise enless ur a tiny dude. I had a 3 lift total of 1100-1200 pounds at that age. Whats ur height and weight.

At 16, I was 175 lbs at 5' 10''. I'm 230 now, and the belly fat is really making an exit. I've put on a lot of working mans muscle.

 

[Baby Gains]

Hey man, I like the the motivation! Awesome introduction and all I can wish you is keep on going!

Although, another subforum is meant for new member introduction and let's see if admin will move it there @Millard

New Member Introduction

Introduce yourself.

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Thanks, I will post in that thread.

 

[swiftque]

Hey welcome.

I used a trt clinic. It was nice to have them hold my hand through the process initially while I learned more. I now self manage. You can order your own blood tests.

I make good money. I own a house, vehicles, etc, all debt free and paid off. I still don’t like the idea of throwing away money needlessly when you can get similar results for less $$$.

There have been compounding pharmacies that have put out bunk product in the past. So don’t just believe because you’re dealing with a brick and mortar business that you are getting the best of the best.

You can find sources for all kinds of things and the product batch should already be tested. You can also have it tested on your own for not much $$$.

I guess to summarize, I found I had more options managing this myself and could save time and money. I also didn’t need to time my cycles to avoid throwing off the clinics monitored blood tests.

The raw material for all this stuff comes from the same place.

Again, welcome.

 

[readalot]

This is something I've recently discussed with my clinic, and Oxandrolone / Anavar is something they would like to offer, but claim to have difficulty finding a pharmacy they can work with.

Strange.

Empower/APS/Brooksville etc etc.

So far the FDA ruling last year hasn't slowed things down YET.

 

[readalot]

There have been compounding pharmacies that have put out bunk product in the past

Examples outside the FAM Scammers? Never take your products from the providers office. Very bad sign.

 

[readalot]

The raw material for all this stuff comes from the same place.

Evidence for such a claim?

You are saying USP grade API from an FDA inspected site and ugl raws are exactly the same and from same place

Strange, I'm still looking for that mythical C of A listing USP standards testing for either an UGL raw or finished product. Crickets and no impurity testing from what I can gather thus far.

USP grade API is 99.5 to 99.9% purity. I think you are exaggerating. Prove me wrong please. I'd love that. Sincerely.

 

[readalot]

Hi, I'm going to be 52 years old this year. I'm on my second year of injectable TRT through my local clinic. I Started with 160 split weekly, and now I'm tolerating 180 split weekly very well. I take .5 Anastrozole a week, and it makes a huge difference with my mood / concentration. I trained as a powerlifter in the 80's up to the age of 17, and totaled 1150 pounds in three lifts in one competition at 16. I never used enhancing drugs until I started TRT.
I've always worked labor intensive jobs, and it wasn't until 8 years ago that I decided to tackle health and fitness. I changed my diet, began daily notebooks of my progress in the small gym I made for myself, and dealt with my injuries and surgeries with passion and patience.
I am under the supervision of doctors at my clinic concerning my TRT, and I have regular full panel blood work done.
I'm here to learn, and the only "source" I would consider for any type of testosterone add on, would come from an approved compounding pharmacy and a written prescription. This is something I've recently discussed with my clinic, and Oxandrolone / Anavar is something they would like to offer, but claim to have difficulty finding a pharmacy they can work with.
My out of pocket cost for HRT is expensive, but the service is flawless, and the location is 15 minutes drive from my home. If I'm going to give my very best in life, in the gym, and at the dinner table, then I only want the best supplements going in my body. That's what seems fair to me. I researched Anavar because of the good reviews from multiple sources online, and feel like a low dose, short cycle is something I would excel with as a first timer, just seeing how well my body tolerated the medication. But I'm no expert, and welcome any suggestions or insight. I'm 50 + years old and have obvious joint issues that require about 6 hours a week with strict stretching routines, and PT (learned from paid 1-2 month outpatient physical therapy appointments) for recurring issues like shoulder impingement. Everything that I do outside of the gym, dictates just how hard I can push myself when I have the OPPORTUNITY to do resistance training. It took years to learn this, and is likely going to be the foundation that supports me as I continue to age. I look forward to comments and suggestions. Sincerely, Baby Gains

Welcome to Meso.

 

[swiftque]

Evidence for such a claim?

Signal: Novo Nordisk sues more Florida pharmacies in battle against fake semaglutide - Pharmaceutical Technology

Novo Nordisk is continuing legal action against compounding pharmacies selling off-brand Ozempic which it claims are adulterated.

www.pharmaceutical-technology.com

Evidence for such a claim?

You are saying USP grade API from an FDA inspected site and ugl raws are exactly the same and from same place

Strange, I'm still looking for that mythical C of A listing USP standards testing for either an UGL raw or finished product. Crickets and no impurity testing from what I can gather thus far.

USP grade API is 99.5 to 99.9% purity. I think you are exaggerating. Prove me wrong please. I'd love that. Sincerely.

I did not say that they were exactly the same. I said they came from the same place. There’s a big difference. Pharmaceutical standards are more stringent than UGLs.

To answer your other question here’s a quick article: Signal: Novo Nordisk sues more Florida pharmacies in battle against fake semaglutide - Pharmaceutical Technology

I have pharma ozempic and wegovy. Doesn’t impact me but it did others.

A pharmaceutical company made these pens and they were prescribed to me. Where that raw material originated is something else.

I dunno what you’re looking for out of me here. Shit is made in China. What goes on after that I made no comment on.

 

[readalot]

Signal: Novo Nordisk sues more Florida pharmacies in battle against fake semaglutide - Pharmaceutical Technology

Novo Nordisk is continuing legal action against compounding pharmacies selling off-brand Ozempic which it claims are adulterated.

www.pharmaceutical-technology.com

I did not say that they were exactly the same. I said they came from the same place. There’s a big difference. Pharmaceutical standards are more stringent than UGLs.

To answer your other question here’s a quick article: Signal: Novo Nordisk sues more Florida pharmacies in battle against fake semaglutide - Pharmaceutical Technology

I have pharma ozempic and wegovy. Doesn’t impact me but it did others.

A pharmaceutical company made these pens and they were prescribed to me. Where that raw material originated is something else.

I dunno what you’re looking for out of me here. Shit is made in China. What goes on after that I made no comment on.

Thanks for your response. Yes I agree the GLP1 situation is a special case which I covered here...

Non Pharma GLPs not real? GLP Salts? Can someone who knows chemistry explain?

There have been numerous stories out there about how the GLP pharma companies are starting to go after the compounding pharmacies and weight loss clinics that are offering compounded Semaglutide and Tirzepatide. One of the things you read over and over is how the non pharma versions are salts...

thinksteroids.com

Non Pharma GLPs not real? GLP Salts? Can someone who knows chemistry explain?

There have been numerous stories out there about how the GLP pharma companies are starting to go after the compounding pharmacies and weight loss clinics that are offering compounded Semaglutide and Tirzepatide. One of the things you read over and over is how the non pharma versions are salts...

thinksteroids.com

Compounders are using a loophole currently and no way are they importing API from fda inspected site since the meds are on patent and Novo sure isn't supplying it to them.

The antecedent in the discussion above was AAS and oxandrolone in particular. I've yet to encounter bunk AAS from compounder (ignoring the FAM scam situation).


Regardless, thanks for bring up the peptides situation. There, I will concede, compounders appear to be operating as UGL distributors rather than pharma API compounders.

Good to daylight this particular case.

 

[readalot]

I dunno what you’re looking for out of me here.

Sorry not following this.

India makes much of the USP raws for pharma.

I will agree the USP API situation is regressing (fda not inspecting regularly). One of the reasons I am pushing to clean up ugl products. At some point we may all need them for AAS outside Test.

 

[swiftque]

Thanks for your response. Yes I agree the GLP1 situation is a special case which I covered here...

Non Pharma GLPs not real? GLP Salts? Can someone who knows chemistry explain?

There have been numerous stories out there about how the GLP pharma companies are starting to go after the compounding pharmacies and weight loss clinics that are offering compounded Semaglutide and Tirzepatide. One of the things you read over and over is how the non pharma versions are salts...

thinksteroids.com

Non Pharma GLPs not real? GLP Salts? Can someone who knows chemistry explain?

There have been numerous stories out there about how the GLP pharma companies are starting to go after the compounding pharmacies and weight loss clinics that are offering compounded Semaglutide and Tirzepatide. One of the things you read over and over is how the non pharma versions are salts...

thinksteroids.com

Compounders are using a loophole currently and no way are they importing API from fda inspected site since the meds are on patent and Novo sure isn't supplying it to them.

The antecedent in the discussion above was AAS and oxandrolone in particular. I've yet to encounter bunk AAS from compounder (ignoring the FAM scam situation).


Regardless, thanks for bring up the peptides situation. There, I will concede, compounders appear to be operating as UGL distributors rather than pharma API compounders.

Good to daylight this particular case.

I’m also a verified dummy. Your contributions make those like me better informed. Thanks.

 

[primojuju]

Hi, I'm going to be 52 years old this year. I'm on my second year of injectable TRT through my local clinic. I Started with 160 split weekly, and now I'm tolerating 180 split weekly very well. I take .5 Anastrozole a week, and it makes a huge difference with my mood / concentration. I trained as a powerlifter in the 80's up to the age of 17, and totaled 1150 pounds in three lifts in one competition at 16. I never used enhancing drugs until I started TRT.
I've always worked labor intensive jobs, and it wasn't until 8 years ago that I decided to tackle health and fitness. I changed my diet, began daily notebooks of my progress in the small gym I made for myself, and dealt with my injuries and surgeries with passion and patience.
I am under the supervision of doctors at my clinic concerning my TRT, and I have regular full panel blood work done.
I'm here to learn, and the only "source" I would consider for any type of testosterone add on, would come from an approved compounding pharmacy and a written prescription. This is something I've recently discussed with my clinic, and Oxandrolone / Anavar is something they would like to offer, but claim to have difficulty finding a pharmacy they can work with.
My out of pocket cost for HRT is expensive, but the service is flawless, and the location is 15 minutes drive from my home. If I'm going to give my very best in life, in the gym, and at the dinner table, then I only want the best supplements going in my body. That's what seems fair to me. I researched Anavar because of the good reviews from multiple sources online, and feel like a low dose, short cycle is something I would excel with as a first timer, just seeing how well my body tolerated the medication. But I'm no expert, and welcome any suggestions or insight. I'm 50 + years old and have obvious joint issues that require about 6 hours a week with strict stretching routines, and PT (learned from paid 1-2 month outpatient physical therapy appointments) for recurring issues like shoulder impingement. Everything that I do outside of the gym, dictates just how hard I can push myself when I have the OPPORTUNITY to do resistance training. It took years to learn this, and is likely going to be the foundation that supports me as I continue to age. I look forward to comments and suggestions. Sincerely, Baby Gains

I understand the appeal and draw of anavar, I really do. But in your situation and with your statement of

the only "source" I would consider for any type of testosterone add on, would come from an approved compounding pharmacy and a written prescription

I would just suggest stashing up on your test/ai rx and going for a blast and let anavar come along for the ride if you end up getting it. Someone like yourself who has never delved into peds could essentially just double your trt dose for maybe 12-20 weeks and see some pretty good results. I would suggest checking bp and watching for it to go up, Telmisartan on blast is necessary for me but on trt it doesn't move bp much at all. There are also online trt clinics that will give you 300mg a week of compounding pharmacy test if you give them decent blood work and say "I need this many mg per week to feel good". at my 120 a week trt i could stash up a decent amount for a blast. But I homebrew and 1,000g of test cyp is 34 cents a gram. So there's also that. Other than that looks like you got a a plan for success best of luck!

 

[readalot]

I’m also a verified dummy

I'm right there. Just an anonymous internet poster. Great we can all help each other however we can.

 

[readalot]

I understand the appeal and draw of anavar, I really do. But in your situation and with your statement of

I would just suggest stashing up on your test/ai rx and going for a blast and let anavar come along for the ride if you end up getting it. Someone like yourself who has never delved into peds could essentially just double your trt dose for maybe 12-20 weeks and see some pretty good results. I would suggest checking bp and watching for it to go up, Telmisartan on blast is necessary for me but on trt it doesn't move bp much at all. There are also online trt clinics that will give you 300mg a week of compounding pharmacy test if you give them decent blood work and say "I need this many mg per week to fell good". at my 120 a week trt i could stash up a decent amount for a blast. But I homebrew and 1,000g of test cyp is .34 cents a gram. So there's also that. Other than that looks like you got a a plan for success best of luck!

Weird how that works. When you are first looking for TRT the options appear slim. Now (after years of this) test vials literally pop out like bunnies if you want/"need" them.

Great points. Always have inventory.