A Large Caution Regarding Highly Dosed Gear!

[weighted chinup]

This whole thing has me confused. This isn't adding up, because I don't see how you can be fine for 9 weeks, then suddenly have an issue.

This seems to be a point of contention for a lot of people because it doesn't add up, but to me it adds up perfectly. This is my logic.

Week 1:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 2:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 3:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 4:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

............this goes on for 9 weeks.

And then.

Week 9:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: u are 1 fucking cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on me mums life and i no u are scared lil bitch gettin your mates

That's how I look at it.

I can definitely see how injecting a painful irritant for 9 weeks might cause a problem that takes time to cause an inflammatory response.

 

[testiFy]

This seems to be a point of contention for a lot of people because it doesn't add up, but to me it adds up perfectly. This is my logic.

Week 1:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 2:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 3:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 4:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

............this goes on for 9 weeks.

And then.

Week 9:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: u are 1 fucking cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on my mums life and i no u are scared lil bitch gettin your mates

That's how I look at it.

I can definitely see how injecting a painful irritant for 9 weeks might cause a problem that takes time to cause an inflammatory response.

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OP has autism confirmed

 

[TX_Hempknight]

This seems to be a point of contention for a lot of people because it doesn't add up, but to me it adds up perfectly. This is my logic.

Week 1:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 2:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 3:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

Week 4:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: Stop doing that

............this goes on for 9 weeks.

And then.

Week 9:
OP: Injects painful gear
Body: u are 1 fucking cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on my mums life and i no u are scared lil bitch gettin your mates

That's how I look at it.

I can definitely see how injecting a painful irritant for 9 weeks might cause a problem that takes time to cause an inflammatory response.

Lmao. Cheeky cunt.

 

[balco]

Not to knock your experience but people run high test cycles all of the time. Even if the gear was double over dosed you’d be doing a gram a week which is on the high side but not typically a health concern.

The dosage has nothing to due with his claims, it's purely a matter of high concentration.

This isn't the first time I've seen concentration related complications, most of issues I see come from high concentration DHB and test.

 

[God&Gainz]

I'm just here to give my personal experience

Back when I was a newb and decided to finally pull the trigger, I went with Pharmacom because I fell for their marketing and went with the Test E 500 mg/ml because it felt like the best bang for my buck AND it only required me to pin 1CC every week which was comforting because I was nervous about injecting. (also takes a fucking month to arrive and their shills were in my PMs pushing me to order)

After my first injection I could barely walk, with no prior experience I thought this was how PIP normally is and I was just being a pussy. After every injection the site would get EXTREMELY hard and form a lump and pretty much everything OP said.

I dealt with it for about a month until I posted on Meso and some of the senior members explained to me that you are only supposed to use that high of a concentration if you are pinning TONs of gear, not someone running a beginner cycle of 500mg.

Thankfully I stopped and I am very glad I did after reading this post. I learned a lot from that failed cycle and found FAR superior sources and read a bunch in the homebrew section of why many people dont brew that high of concentrations.

Glad you made it out and thanks for sharing the experience OP, it might save somebodys life.

 

[bikelifeNsauce]

Sometimes the raws used could just oxidize and turn acidic... that shit will have you more inflammed than a maufuckahhh. Everyones tossing around “solvent” and “concentration” but a lot of people have ran the same shit no problems. He just couldve recieved a bad ACIDIC batch. Cause lets be honest its not like the raw suppliers really give a fuck how long their raws sit out on the shelves for and I bet they arent going to throw it away either. Ive dealt with acidic gear before and it sucks total ass. Lucky you didnt cause any muscle tissue damage. Sometimes if you pin an acidic chemical... couldve been your test, it wll cause the muscle tissue to inflame and die causing waste product to be released which can cause kidney damage/failure (you’ll notice it if you pin something acidic and it inflames and your urine is coming out orangeish or brown). Then its a for sure trip to the ER for some drips and hope for the best you got there quick enough

Lesson to all: if you pin some shit and it doesnt sit right the first 2-3 pins (should be 2) toss that shit and tell the lab. Better safe than sorry broskis

 

[bikelifeNsauce]

Theres medical terms for this type of shit but I forgot. Read a study while back where a guy pinned some acidic test into his delt, manned it up for 3-4 days and the inflammation just kept whooping his ass, started pissing dark and ended up going to the hospital and blah blah..

 

[Eman]

I don’t know how many people pin 500mg/ml gear but I assume it’s not a small number and yet you don’t see anyone else chiming in here with the same issues.

Do me a favor. Google "500mg/ml test, meso rx, steroids". Then come back and tell me how this is some sort of phenomenon that no one else experiences.

How do you think I knew what the issue was when I saw the concentration of the gear? Wild guess? Not so much... I've read enough threads consistenting of "I pinned pcom's 500mg/ml test and now I can't walk" to know what the issue is.

300mg/ml isn't 500mg/ml, are you trying to debate me in some sort of obtuse way to prove a point? That's an additional 200mg crammed into ONE ml of oil/solvents. If he reacts as poorly to enanthate as some seem to, I am surprised he made it as long as he did until his trip to the ER arrived.

 

[Big_paul]

Any thing more than 300mg/ml is asking for pip.

 

[EazyE]

Some very good discussion points. I would also like to add that we must always keep in mind that when injecting gear we are introducing a foreign substance into our bodies. There is always a risk involved when doing so. Of course proper hygiene and injection protocol must be followed to mitigate and minimize risk. However, for shits and giggles and to throw a number at it, let’s say you self administer approximately 100 injections annually (maybe more or less), you are rolling the dice. Every time you break your skin barrier, there is a risk of bacteria entering the body. So there is always the risk of an infectious substance entering your body. Even if 1 injection out of 100 is compromised, you can end up with a nasty infection. If you experience fever, shaking, neck pain, swelling and redness of skin that doesn’t dissipate rapidly, seek medical intervention immediately. Often, if infection has spread to your lymphatic system because of the infection, there may be swelling, redness and severe pain in one of your legs. These are warning signs your body is sending you. Don’t ignore.
So whether it is a reaction to high dose gear or a bacterial infection from your gear itself or an injection compromised, don’t tough it out. Seek medical assistance. Stay safe. Minimize risk.

 

[Turbo charged]

Hey is you get an access using these guys’ gear suppsively they will pay $10,000 if you can prove it was cause of the gear

Who's gear pharmacom

 

[88general88]

Who's gear pharmacom

The OP’s gear was pharmacom, and if that was a question, the answer is - it’s my understanding if you can show proof that their gear has issues with sterility then they will pay $10k

 

[Turbo charged]

The OP’s gear was pharmacom, and if that was a question, the answer is - it’s my understanding if you can show proof that their gear has issues with sterility then they will pay $10k

Well I got proof fucking laid up on mother's day from a abscess in my shoulder from there injectable oil base winstrol have medical records to prove it and a hole in my shoulder that had to drain for over a week. My whole arm blew up and got hot. Was very scary. Let's see what they got to say stopped using there winstrol. Stayed in hospital overnight got blasted with iv antibiotics. I have all the documentation from hospital. And a fucking ugly scar to prove it

 

[88general88]

Well I got proof fucking laid up on mother's day from a abscess in my shoulder from there injectable oil base winstrol have medical records to prove it and a hole in my shoulder that had to drain for over a week. My whole arm blew up and got hot. Was very scary. Let's see what they got to say stopped using there winstrol. Stayed in hospital overnight got blasted with iv antibiotics. I have all the documentation from hospital. And a fucking ugly scar to prove it

Sorry to hear that brother, that’s fucked up.

 

[Tinytim]

Allergic reactions dont always manifest themselves at first exposure. After injecting for 9 weeks you may have finaly hit that point where your body said enough and gave you enough symptoms to say stop..
get some 200mg/ml test in a boring proven carrier oil like pharma companies use.

 

[Test_Subject]

Well I got proof fucking laid up on mother's day from a abscess in my shoulder from there injectable oil base winstrol have medical records to prove it and a hole in my shoulder that had to drain for over a week. My whole arm blew up and got hot. Was very scary. Let's see what they got to say stopped using there winstrol. Stayed in hospital overnight got blasted with iv antibiotics. I have all the documentation from hospital. And a fucking ugly scar to prove it

The problem is that they're going to blame your injection technique.

The whole 10k if you can prove an infection is from their gear sounds good on paper, but it's meaningless, really. How are you going to prove to them that you didn't forget to swab the top, or you didn't drop the vial in dog shit etc.?

Not saying it is your fault, just that it's next to impossible to prove.

 

[Turbo charged]

The problem is that they're going to blame your injection technique.

The whole 10k if you can prove an infection is from their gear sounds good on paper, but it's meaningless, really. How are you going to prove to them that you didn't forget to swab the top, or you didn't drop the vial in dog shit etc.?

Not saying it is your fault, just that it's next to impossible to prove.

Of course I agree with you but that shows weakness on there part a company that puts out excuses why it wasn't there fault is a company with a weak foundation. I have ordered plenty of gear from them still on there test and deca now no issues. There winstrol has a issue. But they will never admit that witch would shows weakness on there part. I am 49 not 21 and know how to shoot gear. Let's not make assumptions and see were they go with it. I am very particular on cleaning and sterilization before injections

 

[88general88]

The problem is that they're going to blame your injection technique.

The whole 10k if you can prove an infection is from their gear sounds good on paper, but it's meaningless, really. How are you going to prove to them that you didn't forget to swab the top, or you didn't drop the vial in dog shit etc.?

Not saying it is your fault, just that it's next to impossible to prove.

I guess you can send it in for testing, right?? If it has impurities than that should suffice, at least you would think, but I do t see the issue they would probably want you to send the gear to them or a sample to them even after paying for it to be tested so they could test it themselves. When it is all said and done. All it takes is one test with results of impurity’s floating around to kill their business. So I would put together a game plan before laying your hand down for those fucks to see. If you do choose to go after the funds.

 

[Turbo charged]

I guess you can send it in for testing, right?? If it has impurities than that should suffice, at least you would think, but I do t see the issue they would probably want you to send the gear to them or a sample to them even after paying for it to be tested so they could test it themselves. When it is all said and done. All it takes is one test with results of impurity’s floating around to kill their business. So I would put together a game plan before laying your hand down for those fucks to see. If you do choose to go after the funds.

I dont like to bash company's. I know I take a chance buying gear from the underground. We all do but dont pound your chest like you dont make mistakes. It could of been alot worse for me. My whole arm blew up was very warm. You can actually see the difference in color from one arm to the other. It started in shoulder then to my bicep and tricep then down to my elbow. They did a minor surgery on my should in the er because all the surgery rooms were full. Surgeon gave me a powerful painkiller in my iv I almost felt like I got hit with a bat when it hit didnt feel nothing just herd him cutting meat out to get to infection it was pretty deep I used I 1inch pin. Then he drained it and filled it will some white little cloth tape. Surgeon said whatever I injected was not sterilized and contained bacteria wich caused the infection due to the fact he had to cut down deep to even get to abscess nothing near the surface.I had to pull the tap out every morning clean it and stuff new tap back in to keep letting it drain while one antibiotics. Very bad experience. Now my shoulder has a big scar on it.

 

[johntt44]

When I first started researching gear, I learned to stay the fuck away from Pharmacom and Naps. Learned it within the first week.