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So what's the perfect timing after coming off to go? I should still use hcg or no don't want balls shriveled or do they not check? Never been for one of those test
 
I def need to get estro down I on 2.2 total grams of gear for my last push for muscle gain and having to use letro cause adex won't compete that would prob be a flag for sure since I'm assuming it's super high
 
I got seriously overtrained right after gains leveled off so i dropped carbs and went back to trt. Digestion was slowing too. I'm gonna drop some bf, let the receptors clear out and hit it again hard as soon as i feel ready.

you could cruise with training for a few weeks, or drop to TRT doses, just don't let you diet suffer and do not stop lifting. consistency is how you win this game :)
Where there Is a beginning there also must be an end (sigh)

ya, I see the points you both are making. I wanted to cruise kinda high. I may consider this the end. Drop to my cruise dose and go back to "natty" training which always means less sets blah blah blah.

I wasnt going to follow typical on/off rules this time. I wanna have a serious go at some thing other than bulking and get lean for a change. Which means tren is likely in the works. Even tho i sworn it off i am attracted to the idea now. Id like to start in a few weeks. Get ready for summer. But then again its always summer here :)
 
So what's the perfect timing after coming off to go? I should still use hcg or no don't want balls shriveled or do they not check? Never been for one of those test
Depends on the compounds and esters but wait for It all to clear like you would normally do for pct and just DONT pct. Let dem hormones crash then you'll have your rx trt. I dont like that route tho. Cuz if you go the doctor route you then have to play by their rules which means if they catch you cycling theyll pull your script
 
Where there Is a beginning there also must be an end (sigh)

ya, I see the points you both are making. I wanted to cruise kinda high. I may consider this the end. Drop to my cruise dose and go back to "natty" training which always means less sets blah blah blah.

I wasnt going to follow typical on/off rules this time. I wanna have a serious go at some thing other than bulking and get lean for a change. Which means tren is likely in the works. Even tho i sworn it off i am attracted to the idea now. Id like to start in a few weeks. Get ready for summer. But then again its always summer here :)
I knew you would end up trying Tren lol. You're gonna love it ;)
 
Depends on the compounds and esters but wait for It all to clear like you would normally do for pct and just DONT pct. Let dem hormones crash then you'll have your rx trt. I dont like that route tho. Cuz if you go the doctor route you then have to play by their rules which means if they catch you cycling theyll pull your script
Another excellent reason to run trt test and high doses of other compounds! You'll never see me go back too high test.
 
Ya I know the ester deal I end with prop right now I got 1g e 550 prop and 750 npp so 2 weeks till end I'll drop the e biggest thing is I know my estrogen level r skyrocket don't want them setting off the alert. Shit I can run all fast esters During cycling if I jump on doctor trt I might just say fuck it and do my own trt still
 
Honestly man it's odd I like high test almost over any other compound it's kinda odd. Last tren I had is severely underdosed in fact I still have 40 mills of chilling just some reason test is my shit good tren is as well. Never ran mast of EQ thouvh
 
I gotta figure out how I wanna do it. Just a simple cut with test and tren. Probably short so I can get to where I need to be. Im figuring that cycle shouldn't cost too much. I gotta figure it. Maybe tren at 50mg eod. If its good that should be enough. And test at a gram? What do yous say?
 
I gotta figure out how I wanna do it. Just a simple cut with test and tren. Probably short so I can get to where I need to be. Im figuring that cycle shouldn't cost too much. I gotta figure it. Maybe tren at 50mg eod. If its good that should be enough. And test at a gram? What do yous say?
I would go trt dose test and at least 100mg Tren ace eod. If looking to add substantial mass maybe NPP with it. That's what my summer cycle will look like. Going for a lean mass builder. I'm currently extending my cycle by pinning 50mg prop and 100mg Tren eod. Have cut my carbs and am strict to my diet to cut. Have lost about ten pounds so far, about two weeks in. I don't think I have lost any noticeable lean mass.
 
I would go trt dose test and at least 100mg Tren ace eod. If looking to add substantial mass maybe NPP with it. That's what my summer cycle will look like. Going for a lean mass builder. I'm currently extending my cycle by pinning 50mg prop and 100mg Tren eod. Have cut my carbs and am strict to my diet to cut. Have lost about ten pounds so far, about two weeks in. I don't think I have lost any noticeable lean mass.

Agreed this is the one compound I do lower my test for cause of sides. Never tried tren with npp have heard good things with it though. U don't want those nasty sides then def don't run test that high my anger is out of control when I have test to high. Doesn't help I am a hot head already and almost like when I get mad on tren.
 
You all know high test doesnt bother me. Were all different.

The cycle log section is probably my favorite section here at meso. Maybe ill run a 3rd log on my cut. Im pretty active in the log section maybe folks get sick of trukker always running logs. Cuz mine are long winded. Just look at the replies on my last one and current one lol
 
I can run a gram a week of test with no issues, but when you run Tren things change. Stay at trt dose, because you're body still needs some test, and let the Tren do what it does best. That's turning you in to a beast. If you want more size with the Tren I would say do NPP or deca with it. My personal feeling is NPP, so if I run in to any problems with the combination I can bail fast and get back on track.
 
@Notits since were gonna be doing the same thing about the same time we ought to have a friendly competition. Who ever loses the most FAT and maintains the most MUSCLE is the winner. It should push us to train harder. Interested?
 
This should get interesting. Two beasts on Tren pushing each other. I need some popcorn, this is going to be an interesting show.
 
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