The-Squat
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That was already being done by others, I was just too upset because the raws were very expensive and I bought a lot.
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The-Squat
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Anyway, water under the bridge at this point for me but giving some awareness.
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dinfaralt
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i thought it was like this aswell but i had a wake up when i learned who run this forum.
he is all for accountability and higher standards. the vendor situation is shitty but theres little hope for it'll get better with raw buyers first since it has a higher entry standard, more stupid people are kept off.
thats honestly all i care about aswell fuck the guys getting ripped off from ugls, i hope this market gets better so i can grab whatever i want for life and start visiting this forum once every 6 months.
You are the only one customer in this forum to say not only rely on Janoshik. thumbs up.
Our Trenbolone enanthate raw, three persons got three different results at the same batch products. 88%, 85%, 93%. We don't comment.
ZaddyZonar
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I don’t think admittedly ignoring the customer is the way to handle that, pretty fucked up
Photon
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All your reps are sending Jano reports.
You don't comment? But you send?
You don't comment? But you post Jano reports here of your products?
Are they all fake?
All fake results?
Good reports = correct?
Bad reports = invalid?
All fake reports you posted?
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AlexDavis43
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No, I've also said we should include other testing companies: compare & contrast results, get some competition among them (like with gear sources for accuracy and precision etc)
Photon
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They don't even test..
They only post the internal hplc which is done in Microsoft word.
They advertise with good customer reports and deny bad ones..
Nobody would have purchased if they posted the 89% NPP, 89% Test, 85% TRE and 88% MENT before selling..
AlexDavis43
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Is your hostility directed toward this part of aasraws' reply?
"88%, 85%, 93%. We don't comment"
"We don't comment"
Because we'd expect much lower variance from 3 samples of the same batch?
85% to 93% is close to 10% variance, seems big
Photon
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I'm saying they can't advertise with good reports and deny bad, from the same lab. If they say Jano isn't gtg then it's fine, do all AB or MZBiolab. But advertising with all Jano reports and then denying poor Jano results? That's fuked up.
Their post history is all Jano reports, reps are all sending Jano reports and the minute a bad report is out, they don't recognize it and respond with No Comment.
sneak007
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Well my pack just landed after a month or so. Test cyp raws and they smelled strong as soon as I opened the outer bag, inner bag still closed.
I'm new to raws but hopefully that's a good sign.
Im assuming it denotes freshness
I'm new to raws but hopefully that's a good sign.
Im assuming it denotes freshness
Flankstake
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I’m new to raws but not chemistry, I thought the excessive solvent odor was excess solvent, but I was told a citrusy smell is normal.
We need someone that was getting cypionate in “the good times” to compare for us.
My solvents land by the weekend, so I’ll do a small trial of my 12-2-2025 batch to see if it has the same issue others ran into with going into solution.
sneak007
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Yea it's more of a natural smell than a solvent smell I would say.
I haven't tried brewing it yet though. Fingers crossed
cousinmuscles
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IMO it would be nice if @janoshik could step in and comment on the variance on results and whether there may have been a higher than usual amount of mistakes recently. IIRC samples are held for a while, so if there is any reason to dispute some results, it would be great if they could be retested just to settle this concern.
I just received my order of MENT. Order was placed Dec 22nd. Need to send it off for testing along with some others.
Photon
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Latest batch tested as 88% I believe, results are shared somewhere here.
Update, they saw my post here and reached out to me to offer reshipment, however they indicated that they would basically ship again using the same unreliable method, and asked that if the original shipment arrived to pay for both. since i dont want that particular method to be used due to the frequency of lost packages, i asked for a cheaper yet more reliable method but they said they have to wait until it is available again. i decided not to accept the reshipment at this time especially with some of the reports im hearing about the quality and issues dissolving the product(curious if it was user error or a legit thing since i think i saw only like 3 people say it and at least one was not using a controlled temp). id hate to have to pay for two shipments if one ends up being bunk
hcgfiend123456
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Good point
The-Squat
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Water under the bridge for me and the last test was in the summer, I'm done with this issue.
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