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[dcfreak]

A dual solvent recrystalization is not difficult, but is only really going to remove small organic impurities. It will not remove heavy metals or solvents trapped in the crystal lattice. If the impurities are leftover precursors or reaction solvents, sure. That said, I have no desire to go to that much effort for homebrewing. My days of organic chemistry are long gone.

 

[Walter Hype]

its a good metric to consider.

if walt can do monkey can do

Exactly. My retarded low IQ ass figured it out. I'm like a fish who figured out how to mimic typing on a keyboard flopping around. That means even Cletus can be a great chemist

 

[Walter Hype]

A dual solvent recrystalization is not difficult, but is only really going to remove small organic impurities. It will not remove heavy metals or solvents trapped in the crystal lattice. If the impurities are leftover precursors or reaction solvents, sure. That said, I have no desire to go to that much effort for homebrewing. My days of organic chemistry are long gone.

You will not have solvents trapped in your crystals if you have slowed controlled growth and good polymorphous formuations. There is more nuance here I'll admit but I'm more in the side if encouragement towards progress than hand waving saying don't do it. I want more progress on this idea so I'll push it as far as I can while I'm alive

 

[dcfreak]

You will not have solvents trapped in your crystals if you have slowed controlled growth and good polymorphous formuations. There is more nuance here I'll admit but I'm more in the side if encouragement towards progress than hand waving saying don't do it. I want more progress on this idea so I'll push it as far as I can while I'm alive

A properly done recrystalization takes plenty of practice and technique. Yes, the slower the crystal growth the less impurities are trapped while growing from the mother liquor.

It is half science half art form.

 

[Photon]

You will not have solvents trapped in your crystals if you have slowed controlled growth and good polymorphous formuations. There is more nuance here I'll admit but I'm more in the side if encouragement towards progress than hand waving saying don't do it. I want more progress on this idea so I'll push it as far as I can while I'm alive

The way towards progress is by finding a solution, not brushing it aside. What we say holds no weight, without actual 3rd party validation and verification. There are reasons why it's not kicking off, and brushing them off is what's impeding progress.

And please, there's a thread specifically for discussions on that..

 

[Walter Hype]

A properly done recrystalization takes plenty of practice and technique. Yes, the slower the crystal growth the less impurities are trapped while growing from the mother liquor.

It is half science half art form.

You're right a lot of the things I do is art I don't really necessarily follow every protocol that a book on this subject call even though I've read a lot of books

It truly is winging it and having a feeling for it I'm not even kidding it's just something about understanding what works with experience it literally as you said art... You do it a few times on paper like the books say but then you figure out you can do it a bit different and get better results.

 

[TheMoto]

You're right a lot of the things I do is art I don't really necessarily follow every protocol that a book on this subject call even though I've read a lot of books

It truly is winging it and having a feeling for it I'm not even kidding it's just something about understanding what works with experience it literally as you said art... You do it a few times on paper like the books say but then you figure out you can do it a bit different and get better results.

lol @ art… gtfo

Fuckin hell

 

[Sampei]

its so basic a retard could do it. i do it routinely and im safe from blind testing from customers. its just how i roll im getting lots of success doing it and im growing as ugl lab too with great reputation for clean pip free oil as much as people will neg me im actually on a roll and climbing fast.

i just react to how reality shows me and reality is showing me im doing good because money is growing and im getting all smiles. i truly believe purification is the way forward and i will continue to do it as long as reality shows me it pays off which it is.


i want you to save this message right now and remember me from 5 years from now. this purification idea will save the raw supply and it will change the entire market. I PROMISE YOU.

we as consumers or even labs have control and im showing you we do. I gave the blue print. now take control and WIN. (or just do it for your own personaly supply knowing you got pharma grade raws )

there is nothing truly complicated or mystic about this path. This is basic preschool grade chemistry they teach this in year one of your college classes. even bathtub brewer joe could on paper get some pretty clean raws if he grabbed a few beakers and cheapo vacuum chamber and a rotary vane pump (vented outside)


heres a basic low effort youtube post on what this can do


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04HWovMzkAk


i didnt learn off this but slow joe can!

Dude you are on a fender bender again? I told you multiple time, show lab test with GCMS + HPLC of impure raw, show then the purified raw HPLC + GCMS.

That would really make things a lot more serious and not just a lot of bla bla bla.

We like fact and datas not showing off of mostly nothing and please stop promoting yourself around the forum in threads that are not yours. Open your thread and do it the correct way.

I'm saying this in the most amicable way

 

[Gonz0]

Has anyone seen a Dec test of TNE raw?
I got some...very weird results back.

Mine just got here , sending off to jano this week

 

[Walter Hype]

lol @ art… gtfo

Fuckin hell

I will stay fuck here and stay fuck doing things that make you go

Mwhahahhahahhah I love you btw

 

[Walter Hype]

Dude you are on a fender bender again? I told you multiple time, show lab test with GCMS + HPLC of impure raw, show then the purified raw HPLC + GCMS.

That would really make things a lot more serious and not just a lot of bla bla bla.

We like fact and datas not showing off of mostly nothing and please stop promoting yourself around the forum in threads that are not yours. Open your thread and do it the correct way.

I'm saying this in the most amicable way

I love you too sempai and yeah I'm on nicotine and caffeine

 

[Walter Hype]

Mine just got here , sending off to jano this week

i do not foresee tne going bad as easily as other raws i do want to see this weird result....

 

[Walter Hype]

is anyone feeling super hopeful for the future? just me?

 

[newguy2]

Dude you are on a fender bender again? I told you multiple time, show lab test with GCMS + HPLC of impure raw, show then the purified raw HPLC + GCMS.

That would really make things a lot more serious and not just a lot of bla bla bla.

We like fact and datas not showing off of mostly nothing and please stop promoting yourself around the forum in threads that are not yours. Open your thread and do it the correct way.

I'm saying this in the most amicable way

I've said the same. It's pretty obvious this would be good smoking gun to shut everyone up. Seems telling the he doesn't have it.

 

[Walter Hype]

I've said the same. It's pretty obvious this would be good smoking gun to shut everyone up. Seems telling the he doesn't have it.

Janoshik Analytical

before has gcms

this is after with an intended dosage of 250

no overdose

the only thing i dont have is a gcms on it but ill get that and then you guys can just accept it works yeah?
i used mz for speed but ill be using jano for the gcms.

i clearly share my results but often times people either miss it or skip it entirely as they believe me to be a fool. thats not my fault.

you can do the math and see theres no way for me to get this result at a target of 250 and no overdose (on purpose for the testing) also the raws was based on gcms much less pure than the hplc states. so target api was lower than stated. hplc reflects an impossibility if nothing changed (it did)

 

[Photon]

Janoshik Analytical

before has gcms

this is after with an intended dosage of 250

no overdose

the only thing i dont have is a gcms on it but ill get that and then you guys can just accept it works yeah?
i used mz for speed but ill be using jano for the gcms.

i clearly share my results but often times people either miss it or skip it entirely as they believe me to be a fool. thats not my fault.

This test holds no weight simply because it's not an apples to apples comparison. You are talking about raws.

Raws hplc gcms pre and post, same lab.

And please stop doing this in everyones threads..

That thread on purifying raws has been there since April. I have not seen a single pre post 3rd party comparison lab report of anything..

 

[Walter Hype]

This test holds no weight simply because it's not an apples to apples comparison. You are talking about raws.

Raws hplc gcms pre and post, same lab.

And please stop doing this in everyones threads..

ok then i get jano HPLC and JANO gcms on the raws. ill update when its here.

 

[Sampei]

ok then i get jano HPLC and JANO gcms on the raws. ill update when its here.

I mean Walt honestly, I would love to see those pre and post properly done and to show a great result. I'm deadly serious, It would be great for everyone.

I told you many times tho, if you want ppl to take you seriously you need to act professionally and with method.

So get those HPLC + GCMS PRE PURIFYING AND POST PURIFYING.

Srsly if money is an issue I'll chip in on the cost but for god sake do it right.

 

[VakarianSK]

its so basic a retard could do it. i do it routinely and im safe from blind testing from customers. its just how i roll im getting lots of success doing it and im growing as ugl lab too with great reputation for clean pip free oil as much as people will neg me im actually on a roll and climbing fast.

i just react to how reality shows me and reality is showing me im doing good because money is growing and im getting all smiles. i truly believe purification is the way forward and i will continue to do it as long as reality shows me it pays off which it is.


i want you to save this message right now and remember me from 5 years from now. this purification idea will save the raw supply and it will change the entire market. I PROMISE YOU.

we as consumers or even labs have control and im showing you we do. I gave the blue print. now take control and WIN. (or just do it for your own personaly supply knowing you got pharma grade raws )

there is nothing truly complicated or mystic about this path. This is basic preschool grade chemistry they teach this in year one of your college classes. even bathtub brewer joe could on paper get some pretty clean raws if he grabbed a few beakers and cheapo vacuum chamber and a rotary vane pump (vented outside)


heres a basic low effort youtube post on what this can do


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04HWovMzkAk


i didnt learn off this but slow joe can!

Interesting watch since I haven't been exposed to this idea before outside of a mention here and there. What solvent do you use when recrystallizing?

 

[Walter Hype]

Interesting watch since I haven't been exposed to this idea before outside of a mention here and there. What solvent do you use when recrystallizing?

I'm telling you man it's completely beyond me why this idea is so shocking when in other industries very similar to us and even another "drug" pathways there's routinely communities that purify.... Take one look in the dark web for example there's a whole community around making pharmaceutical grade "drugs". And they used very similar process to this and they achieved very very very pure um...well....snow?

I learned this idea from that and ran with it. Turns out its got utility in our situation

Solvent selection can be very tame

There's a lot of solvents to choose from and it's not so hard to figure out what works cuz all you really need to do is look up pharmaceutical patents on the invention or synthesis of the specific ester or drug you're looking at and look at what they do in an industrial scale


They often throw out exactly what they do saying which solvent was the most ideal for crashing out and purifying their product

Take that very same principle then scale it down