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[cousinmuscles]

Im not the one who started the ad hominem attacks. You people are insufferable. Who are you to speak after telling a guy to melt raws before adding liquid? Are the peoole here this fkn dense?

No problem with melting a raw, it will not degrade. The way you do it matters. Who are you to speak about my method when I posted like 8 different compounds brewed this way with no issues? Argue with one point at a time, don't switch subject, don't move the goal post, don't insult, and answer to the replies you get, don't repeat the same argument.

 

[Cob]

That is in fact, not what i said at all.
What is Jano reporting?
What is AB reporting?
What is Lab4Tox reporting?

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And that again is not right.
What are impurities?
Once again, what are the labs reporting?
1 - Purity = Impurity

How do you match gcms and heavy metals to purity %?
You cant.
What do those tests measure and what do those results mean?



This is UGL.
You do not know if that is the real raw purity.
But if you err on the side of caution, you take the lowest.

Once again, you keep saying that results are inaccurate.
What do you understand is being reported?
Why are they inaccurate?
Without even knowing what the number means, you say its inaccurate?

Why am i bashing them for 86% Tren?
Because it is a Jano report and they advertise using Jano reports.
I told them upfront, if they do not accept poor Jano reports, then stop using Jano reports at all. Stop accepting Jano reports and i'll stop bashing them for it.

You don't seem to get what I'm saying..I'm not sure if its worth carrying on..

That is in fact, not what i said at all.
What is Jano reporting?
What is AB reporting?
What is Lab4Tox reporting?

View attachment 378852



And that again is not right.
What are impurities?
Once again, what are the labs reporting?
1 - Purity = Impurity

How do you match gcms and heavy metals to purity %?
You cant.
What do those tests measure and what do those results mean?



This is UGL.
You do not know if that is the real raw purity.
But if you err on the side of caution, you take the lowest.

Once again, you keep saying that results are inaccurate.
What do you understand is being reported?
Why are they inaccurate?
Without even knowing what the number means, you say its inaccurate?

Why am i bashing them for 86% Tren?
Because it is a Jano report and they advertise using Jano reports.
I told them upfront, if they do not accept poor Jano reports, then stop using Jano reports at all. Stop accepting Jano reports and i'll stop bashing them for it.

You don't seem to get what I'm saying..I'm not sure if its worth carrying on..

What a circle jerk this conversation with you has been lol Im going to keep doing what I've been doing for as long as I can remember because nothing we talked about actually changes anything. I will continue to use ab over jano cause a 25% variance is a fkn joke and a blind mg to purity test still holds its weight regardless of what you think about it.

One thing I will credit you with is keeping your cool and not being a dbag during the back and forth..for that you have my respect.

 

[Cob]

just give up man the quality of new members XD

Ive been in this game since you were stuck in your dad's sack. I may be new here but I've been on boards for over 15 years and I've been involved in the supp community for even longer.

 

[Cob]

No problem with melting a raw, it will not degrade. The way you do it matters. Who are you to speak about my method when I posted like 8 different compounds brewed this way with no issues? Argue with one point at a time, don't switch subject, don't move the goal post, don't insult, and answer to the replies you get, don't repeat the same argument.

Lmfao...stop telling other people they suck when you cant even give decent brewing advice and dudes shit got all fked up. I didnt move the goal post...I just choose to play your game. Dont throw stones bro

 

[Photon]

What a circle jerk this conversation with you has been lol Im going to keep doing what I've been doing for as long as I can remember because nothing we talked about actually changes anything. I will continue to use ab over jano cause a 25% variance is a fkn joke and a blind mg to purity test still holds its weight regardless of what you think about it.

One thing I will credit you with is keeping your cool and not being a dbag during the back and forth..for that you have my respect.

Getting an accurate % on this isn't going to be easy imo..
You'd probably need to use a high shear homogenizer or something first before taking a sample.

you can clearly see the raws..are in 2 dif portions....



If i got something like this i'd probably just brew it, get the mg/ml then work backwards the purity..

remember the test only uses..<40mg of raws.

 

[Cob]

Getting an accurate % on this isn't going to be easy imo..
You'd probably need to use a high shear homogenizer or something first before taking a sample.

you can clearly see the raws..are in 2 dif portions....

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If i got something like this i'd probably just brew it, get the mg/ml then work backwards the purity..

remember the test only uses..<40mg of raws.

He did send a brewwd version and the raw sample to AB for the blind testing which came out exact.

Im wondering why jano (guy says hes seen more deca raws then anyone);would even test that without atleast trying to mix it better? But then again I domt think it was jano actually running the test...probably one of his new employees..which is part of why I think jano is having issues.

The raws i sent him were a paste...not a liquid. The whole bag was a paste as it had gotten that way from the sunmer...but it did all look like a uniformed paste lol

 

[The-Squat]

Getting an accurate % on this isn't going to be easy imo..
You'd probably need to use a high shear homogenizer or something first before taking a sample.

you can clearly see the raws..are in 2 dif portions....

View attachment 378899

If i got something like this i'd probably just brew it, get the mg/ml then work backwards the purity..

remember the test only uses..<40mg of raws.

Keep in mind that's a plastic bag your are looking through and the colors of the report also change the looks.

But yes, after stirring it real good we ended up with a raw result that matched the finished. Jano even agreed it was higher purity at the end of the discussion.

Our real problem is, things aren't the same as they were 2 years ago and it don't look like they ever will be again.

I want all the testing options available to me but with really only using AB and Jano as the 2 main choices, they seem to be the closest to each other these days.

The other thing is I have never and never will trust a test 100% that isn't mine.

Not doing all I did to get it right, it would have gone in the trash, I just had to dig deeper, and it took me too long to conversate with Jano about it, I was just frustrated not only with testing but the situation in China.

I went from that to now having the most pure white deca powder I have ever seen. Both being 94%.

 

[cousinmuscles]

Lmfao...stop telling other people they suck when you cant even give decent brewing advice and dudes shit got all fked up. I didnt move the goal post...I just choose to play your game. Dont throw stones bro

See, again, fallacy after fallacy. I never said anyone sucked, you put words in my mouth. If you have to say anything about melting raws being a bad idea then say it and explain your reasoning, don't rely on and hominem attacks. Also, you claiming that this was moving the goal post is moving the goal post.

 

[Cob]

See, again, fallacy after fallacy. I never said anyone sucked, you put words in my mouth. If you have to say anything about melting raws being a bad idea then say it and explain your reasoning, don't rely on and hominem attacks. Also, you claiming that this was moving the goal post is moving the goal post.

You jumped in a conversation that had nothing to do with you and you said shit that had nothing to do with the conversation except talk shit about me. Im not the one causing peoples gear to turn whiskey brown. Im done arguing with you small time idiots who bring nothing to the table but some shit talking and bad advice.