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[cousinmuscles]

This is my concern, my rep knew there was issues and acted very professional with me the whole way until I told her it won't filter well, flipped a switch on me saying we have to investigate because there is no other reports about this.

@AASraw why treat me this way when I have been so helpful the whole time?

It's not like I am asking for you to replace the 2kg, but just out of principle some sort of compensation should have been offered rather than an outright lie. It is extremely inconvenient to filter this stuff. The Test Cyp that is that I and many received.

The whole thing with me was to finally developed trust in your company, all it took was the action from the rep to lose that trust and my business.

I have been doing this for over 15 year on a much larger scale then most in this thread, I have many more suppliers, none lie to me and treat me this way, they and I work together.

I know you won't responded or probably care one bit, but we will no longer coraperte any further.

What you don't realize is I am the biggest guy on a board you paid to have a banner on that went away in June, just a different name I used there. After all them years I finally gave you a chance to supply me and this was the result of it.

This psychology, denial, is just one customers faced when dealing with @AASraw . I order a little trest ace just after they post a 98%+ jano result and I get 88%, my rep tells me "but dear it is the same batch" referencing to the 98%+ result, then gaslighting me that janoshik is not reliable and projecting the mistake to janoshik. Then they go on to show how their products test better with AB and MZ biolabs, both cheaper alternatives, further gaslighting us and projecting fault at janoshik, instead of they themselves trying to figure out what janoshik did to get those results. Then, we all go through a rollercoaster, some bashing each other for keeping trust on janoshik others vice versa. Janoshik being the only one to stand up for themselves and provide explanations. Then we get more and more tests, with GCMS, and find that the large discrepancies between janoshik and e.g. AB were that AB somehow caught unbound ester and unbound hormone as the same original compound - if this doesn't convince you...

What did @AASraw reply?

You are the only one customer in this forum to say not only rely on Janoshik. thumbs up.

Our Trenbolone enanthate raw, three persons got three different results at the same batch products. 88%, 85%, 93%. We don't comment.

It may work for now when the situation is really shitty and you can't find raws like you used to before with half a dozen good vendors with everything you can imagine. But should that change and go back to at least some normalcy, this kind of way of treating customers with denial, projection and gaslighting... lets see how far it works.

 

[The-Squat]

This psychology, denial, is just one customers faced when dealing with @AASraw . I order a little trest ace just after they post a 98%+ jano result and I get 88%, my rep tells me "but dear it is the same batch" referencing to the 98%+ result, then gaslighting me that janoshik is not reliable and projecting the mistake to janoshik. Then they go on to show how their products test better with AB and MZ biolabs, both cheaper alternatives, further gaslighting us and projecting fault at janoshik, instead of they themselves trying to figure out what janoshik did to get those results. Then, we all go through a rollercoaster, some bashing each other for keeping trust on janoshik others vice versa. Janoshik being the only one to stand up for themselves and provide explanations. Then we get more and more tests, with GCMS, and find that the large discrepancies between janoshik and e.g. AB were that AB somehow caught unbound ester and unbound hormone as the same original compound - if this doesn't convince you...

What did @AASraw reply?



It may work for now when the situation is really shitty and you can't find raws like you used to before with half a dozen good vendors with everything you can imagine. But should that change and go back to at least some normalcy, this kind of way of treating customers with denial, projection and gaslighting... lets see how far it works.

I pay more with my other suppliers for test c, but maybe some are lower on other items, like primo e. I tired to give @AASraw a chance and got bit in the hand. I'll gladly pay more for peace for mind!

PPD has the cheapest Primo right now, even @FatDan praised PPD just a few days after bashing him here, Go and read for yourselves what he really thinks of PPD at Pro Muscle. Some of you already have read it.

I know a few that are getting ready to roll out stronger come after this next coming week, watch how fast this thread dies because of it and how we got treated.

AASraw was dead here and everywhere else with a bad reputation, they could have made up for that. Like I said I was on a board these guy paid banner space for, nobody would touch them and some of the guys from here that went there bashed the shit out of these guys.

We could have helped change all that, some of us tried!

 

[Photon]

I pay more with my other suppliers for test c, but maybe some are lower on other items, like primo e. I tired to give @AASraw a chance and got bit in the hand. I'll gladly pay more for peace for mind!

PPD has the cheapest Primo right now, even @FatDan praised PPD just a few days after bashing him here, Go and read for yourselves what he really thinks of PPD at Pro Muscle. Some of you already have read it.

I know a few that are getting ready to roll out stronger come after this next coming week, watch how fast this thread dies because of it and how we got treated.

AASraw was dead here and everywhere else with a bad reputation, they could have made up for that. Like I said I was on a board these guy paid banner space for, nobody would touch them and some of the guys from here that went there bashed the shit out of these guys.

We could have helped change all that, some of us tried!

I probably shit on them the most here, but i'd at least wait an extra week, till their holiday is over. i know some people have gotten at least some kind of compensation.

 

[MrKitties]

I pay more with my other suppliers for test c, but maybe some are lower on other items, like primo e. I tired to give @AASraw a chance and got bit in the hand. I'll gladly pay more for peace for mind!

PPD has the cheapest Primo right now, even @FatDan praised PPD just a few days after bashing him here, Go and read for yourselves what he really thinks of PPD at Pro Muscle. Some of you already have read it.

I know a few that are getting ready to roll out stronger come after this next coming week, watch how fast this thread dies because of it and how we got treated.

AASraw was dead here and everywhere else with a bad reputation, they could have made up for that. Like I said I was on a board these guy paid banner space for, nobody would touch them and some of the guys from here that went there bashed the shit out of these guys.

We could have helped change all that, some of us tried!

Yeah iono trying to find what you said about fatdan at PRO muscle has been quite a goose chase sir couldn't find shit

 

[Sammy_Jenkis]

Yeah iono trying to find what you said about fatdan at PRO muscle has been quite a goose chase sir couldn't find shit

He’s not bullshitting, I saw it myself a couple weeks ago. Fatdan changed his name after he got shit for it, that’s why you’re not seeing it if you’re just skimming the thread real quick.

 

[MrKitties]

He’s not bullshitting, I saw it myself a couple weeks ago. Fatdan changed his name after he got shit for it, that’s why you’re not seeing it if you’re just skimming the thread real quick.

all i am saying there isn't much going on at promuscle

 

[Sammy_Jenkis]

all i am saying there isn't much going on at promuscle

I’m not saying there is either, I’m just saying I know what he’s talking about because I saw it also. Not at all saying it holds any weight, just that if someone is looking to verify what @The-Squat said, it is there, but Fatdan changed his name on PM after the fact, and that’s why a quick skim of the thread can miss it.

 

[The-Squat]

Yeah iono trying to find what you said about fatdan at PRO muscle has been quite a goose chase sir couldn't find shit

He changed his name after getting called out to JimminyCrickets in the PurePowdersDirect thread.

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[The-Squat]

I probably shit on them the most here, but i'd at least wait an extra week, till their holiday is over. i know some people have gotten at least some kind of compensation.

I'm not counting on it after talking to the rep and getting lied to.

 

[The-Squat]

@cousinmuscles our posts were highlighted for awareness, someone is looking into this thread and @AASraw

 

[MrKitties]

He changed his name after getting called out to JimminyCrickets in the PurePowdersDirect thread.

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ppd thread? where? are we on the same forum? so confused rn

 

[IndividualMan]

ppd thread? where? are we on the same forum? so confused rn

different vendor, different forum.

 

[MrKitties]

different vendor, different forum.

what i am claiming is lies because i can't locate said thread on said other forum

 

[The-Squat]

ppd thread? where? are we on the same forum? so confused rn

Just let it go!

 

[RocketSurge0n]

what i am claiming is lies because i can't locate said thread on said other forum

Just let it go!

I’m a noob to brewing and I found PPD in about 30 minutes and had a price list the same day. YoU JuSt DoN’T WaNt it EnOuGh

 

[ZenithMan]

Guys with the shitty test c raws… these guys are avoiding accountability saying they have not received complaints.

Would we have batch numbers?

 

[LiftnLift68]

Guys with the shitty test c raws… these guys are avoiding accountability saying they have not received complaints.

Would we have batch numbers?

We have a product number - A0011 but don’t see a “batch” number from the picture they sent prior to shipping.

 

[Venom Lab]

This is my concern, my rep knew there was issues and acted very professional with me the whole way until I told her it won't filter well, flipped a switch on me saying we have to investigate because there is no other reports about this.

@AASraw why treat me this way when I have been so helpful the whole time?

It's not like I am asking for you to replace the 2kg, but just out of principle some sort of compensation should have been offered rather than an outright lie. It is extremely inconvenient to filter this stuff. The Test Cyp that is that I and many received.

The whole thing with me was to finally developed trust in your company, all it took was the action from the rep to lose that trust and my business.

I have been doing this for over 15 year on a much larger scale then most in this thread, I have many more suppliers, none lie to me and treat me this way, they and I work together.

I know you won't responded or probably care one bit, but we will no longer coraperte any further.

What you don't realize is I am the biggest guy on a board you paid to have a banner on that went away in June, just a different name I used there. After all them years I finally gave you a chance to supply me and this was the result of it.

I have reported to my rep the same thing, I can't filter my test C and it has issue dissolving as well.

Let it be know this is not a single issue, I have heard the same thing from at least 3 more ppl that have bought well over 10+ kgs of test C from AASraw and one person is still testing all the packages but he has already 3kgs with the same issue.

Another one got 1kgs with the same problem.

This is not an ISOLATED PROBLEM this is a wide spread issue with surely a batch if not multiple batches.

I have given @AASraw the chance to make it right so I'll give them few more days as they are still on holiday there.

Be known my issue is more deeper than just test C. I'll leave it at that for now.

 

[LiftnLift68]

I have reported to my rep the same thing, I can't filter my test C and it has issue dissolving as well.

Let it be know this is not a single issue, I have heard the same thing from at least 3 more ppl that have bought well over 10+ kgs of test C from AASraw and one person is still testing all the packages but he has already 3kgs with the same issue.

Another one got 1kgs with the same problem.

This is not an ISOLATED PROBLEM this is a wide spread issue with surely a batch if not multiple batches.

I have given @AASraw the chance to make it right so I'll give them few more days as they are still on holiday there.

Same exact situation here. Same exact response and denial. Sent videos, pictures and multiple steps taken try and get it to break down.

Response was that’s odd your specific batch number is not having issues (order placed in January). We are sold out but can give you discount on your next purchase. $900 down the toilet. Told them unacceptable answer and asked for compensation or new batch. We’ll see what they say.

 

[The-Squat]

I have reported to my rep the same thing, I can't filter my test C and it has issue dissolving as well.

Let it be know this is not a single issue, I have heard the same thing from at least 3 more ppl that have bought well over 10+ kgs of test C from AASraw and one person is still testing all the packages but he has already 3kgs with the same issue.

Another one got 1kgs with the same problem.

This is not an ISOLATED PROBLEM this is a wide spread issue with surely a batch if not multiple batches.

I have given @AASraw the chance to make it right so I'll give them few more days as they are still on holiday there.

Be known my issue is more deeper than just test C. I'll leave it at that for now.

What gets me is I knew of these issues and my rep as well and we went through processes the whole time with her even doing the fingers crossed for mine to be good. She new of these issues we communicated well about them.

Before I purchased it she said let's wait until you get the raws and see what happens and then if issues happen we will discuss compensation then.

Well I got the the final process, for me it was filtration, but now I get told by @AASraw rep, further investigation is needed because no other issues like this has been reported.

They don't make things right for us here, we can march over to PM and blow their thread up and every other board they are on!