Photon
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It's all marketing. Use the vendor which gives best results.
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It's all marketing. Use the vendor which gives best results.
aromatizer
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not open to bribes...
That's where they get the least favorable results.
Surely they know by now we only care about janos ....
AASraw Testosterone cypionate API (58-20-8) by Analiza Bialek 20251222 99% purity
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OldmemberNewcuenta
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quoted prices
100g NPP: USD350
100g Masterone propionate: USD800
100g Trenbolone Acetate: USD680
100g Slu-pp-332: USD750
100g Test base: USD80
Stated I only wanted smaller amounts of Nandrolone Phenylpropionate and masterone. Was then told MOQ was 100g. I mentioned others here getting smaller amounts, and they budged and offered me the order I needed.
Masterone was said to be out of stock but i could prepay. yea flucking right! lol
50g test base - $50
25g NPP - $150. thats quite a heavy ass tax. $350 for 100g but $150 for 25 grams? I offered $120 as a 25-30%. tax seemed more fair and they wouldn't budge on the $150. to top it off, the shipping was $80.
Is that standard shipping cost? I mean, $80? do they jump on private jets and hand deliver your drugs to you? seemed a bit outrageous.
anyone with cheaper options on the Nandrolone Phenylpropionate right now? ideally looking for 50g or so of test base, 10g of mast p, 25g or so of NPP at a decent price, but the mast isnt an absolute need.
100g NPP: USD350
100g Masterone propionate: USD800
100g Trenbolone Acetate: USD680
100g Slu-pp-332: USD750
100g Test base: USD80
Stated I only wanted smaller amounts of Nandrolone Phenylpropionate and masterone. Was then told MOQ was 100g. I mentioned others here getting smaller amounts, and they budged and offered me the order I needed.
Masterone was said to be out of stock but i could prepay. yea flucking right! lol
50g test base - $50
25g NPP - $150. thats quite a heavy ass tax. $350 for 100g but $150 for 25 grams? I offered $120 as a 25-30%. tax seemed more fair and they wouldn't budge on the $150. to top it off, the shipping was $80.
Is that standard shipping cost? I mean, $80? do they jump on private jets and hand deliver your drugs to you? seemed a bit outrageous.
anyone with cheaper options on the Nandrolone Phenylpropionate right now? ideally looking for 50g or so of test base, 10g of mast p, 25g or so of NPP at a decent price, but the mast isnt an absolute need.
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dinfaralt
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hello this is same batch thats about to be shipped to me why are you only testing with trash analiza?!
Why do people always so bias with Janoshik and think he’s the only one can check purity of raws? I’m just curious.
dinfaralt
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because he is
why are you having a profile picture of your small hairy legs in a too tight underwear?
Photon
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AB gives high purity for raws.
See this for e.g, believe AB gave 94%. Anyone who's seen NPP would know it's not a liquid but a powder..
I dont really understand these kind of complaints.
I do understand not wanting to buy 1kg or even 500gr, completely normal if one needs raw just for personal brewing.
But 100gr? If you can't afford that well don't know what to say. It's completely normal for them to rape you on anything below 100gr. Imagine the fucking pain in the ass to weight 25gr or 10gr or even 50gr having to pack it etc for what? Pennies? When there are ppl lined up to buy 1kg or multiple kgs....
80$ shipping is standard for raws source. I have always been paying that on average. If 20-30$ more is too much for you again... I dont think raw is for you.
With the money you save from brewing your own oils 20-30$ shipping are making no difference.
Don't bw ridiculous
cousinmuscles
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Because even when he does make mistakes, he steps in personally and makes things right. Over the years he has been open about how they work and also humble as people have pointed out ways to do things better and he has improved. You have to follow the threads for years and see for yourself what kind of person he is.
Meanwhile other cheaper testing companies seem to give excellent results even with garbage raws, as mentioned above. They are never there to talk about disputes publicly.
Best answer. Thank you
alright; we’ll reread some threads. I would’ve think MZ biolabs would be good at checking raws as well
That's the most beautiful thing I have read this year. Thank you. Forwarded it to the rest of the company as well.
OldmemberNewcuenta
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The pain to weigh less than 100g? it would be the same exact pain as it would be to weigh 100g are you slow? they work for pennies already are you shitting me? you act as if these vendors are making 500 a day weighing out 100g raws, but make 20 dollars when weighing out less. I could understand if i bought 3 compounds at a gram a piece. but if you're selling a compound for $80 for 100g, but would sell the same compound for 50g @ $50. no, im sorry i don't see the logic in selling 100g for $350 and charging $150 for 25g. the math doesn't add up. and yes, $80 for shipping? knock it the fuck off.
$80 shipping average? I've probably dealt with 12-15 vendors the past year who shipped from china. the most i've paid for shipping was $50. I think your idea of the word "standard" is quite skewed.
and saving money is the entire point of brewing, but at the same time youre telling me to be happy to pay damn near double for them to do the same amount of work. NO!
Luckily, what you think has absolutely shit to do with if raw is for me or not. If you have an issue with someone complaining about being fucked over on a pricing scheme in which you have absolutely ZERO business in (youre not the buyer, seller or investor) then maybe message boards aren't for you. Just because YOU feel a certain way about overpaying, or about buying kg minimums or whatever the bum fuck, doesn't mean your word is law. and I don't give a fuck who is lined up buying what. their business is not my business. I don't sell steroids. When I first reached out to the vendor, i was told their MOQ per compound is 100grams. but theres others in here who have bought 10grams from them. after stating this, all of a sudden the moq changed. Now, see what conversation can get you? But I guess I should have just accepted it as it was and got the 100 grams of product that I had no need for huh? that way i could look like a big ol steroid cartel boss on the internet for a bunch of fucking strangers. No thanks, I'll leave that up to you rich fellas. I'm too poor to even play rich on the internet.
Hope this book cleared up some things for you, like mind your own pockets
. you're more than welcome to give your opinion on my spending and buying if youre willing to send me the btc. I'll buy 100g of them no problem. otherwise... cuidado hermano.IndividualMan
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no need to freak out man. it is percectly normal to increase margins for lower amount of product/ discount larger amounts price/gram.The pain to weigh less than 100g? it would be the same exact pain as it would be to weigh 100g are you slow? they work for pennies already are you shitting me? you act as if these vendors are making 500 a day weighing out 100g raws, but make 20 dollars when weighing out less. I could understand if i bought 3 compounds at a gram a piece. but if you're selling a compound for $80 for 100g, but would sell the same compound for 50g @ $50. no, im sorry i don't see the logic in selling 100g for $350 and charging $150 for 25g. the math doesn't add up. and yes, $80 for shipping? knock it the fuck off.
$80 shipping average? I've probably dealt with 12-15 vendors the past year who shipped from china. the most i've paid for shipping was $50. I think your idea of the word "standard" is quite skewed.
and saving money is the entire point of brewing, but at the same time youre telling me to be happy to pay damn near double for them to do the same amount of work. NO!
Luckily, what you think has absolutely shit to do with if raw is for me or not. If you have an issue with someone complaining about being fucked over on a pricing scheme in which you have absolutely ZERO business in (youre not the buyer, seller or investor) then maybe message boards aren't for you. Just because YOU feel a certain way about overpaying, or about buying kg minimums or whatever the bum fuck, doesn't mean your word is law. and I don't give a fuck who is lined up buying what. their business is not my business. I don't sell steroids. When I first reached out to the vendor, i was told their MOQ per compound is 100grams. but theres others in here who have bought 10grams from them. after stating this, all of a sudden the moq changed. Now, see what conversation can get you? But I guess I should have just accepted it as it was and got the 100 grams of product that I had no need for huh? that way i could look like a big ol steroid cartel boss on the internet for a bunch of fucking strangers. No thanks, I'll leave that up to you rich fellas. I'm too poor to even play rich on the internet.
Hope this book cleared up some things for you, like mind your own pockets
This vendor specifically operates on a model where individual salespeople work on soem sort of commission and decide their own margins, so its only natural that they try and squeeze a bit of money here and there.Its not a good look once people started talking about the prices they got quoted, and its not very confidence-inspiring, but thats the way they operate.
Just be happy that Test base prices are falling, other compounds will follow.
Avaliability will get better again, quality will too (hopefully)
cousinmuscles
Member
Yeah and the shipping operations are separate, and they also ship to more than once place before it gets to you in order to obfuscate its original source.
Right now times are different and these factories, resellers et.c. have to find new ways to make things work. IIRC since the situation started, it's easy for them to get busted. When there is money though, there are entrepreneurs that will find ways to make things happen.
Before the situation, for NPP I paid $3.6 per gram for up to 99g and $2.4 per gram for 100g. For test e, $38 per 50g bottle (it was melted, poured into a plastic bottle, and solidified - perfect solution for test E that will melt easily). $24 per gram primo E up to 99g, $20.4 per gram for 100g. I also paid $55 (!!!) per gram for trestolone acetate although since I bought so little, I didn't mind shopping around for cheaper.
I have seen prices go up and also down for raws, over the years. I can't blame any reseller for raising prices now, not only because of the opportunity, but also since they are very unlikely selling the same quantities they used to before, money has to come in somehow anyway.
cousinmuscles
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^^ Point I was trying to make with those prices is, $350 for 100g NPP is not bad. You can also buy 500g cyp for $500 which is a good deal. Not horrible considering the situation.
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