Hightower
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Got it, thank you. For now, I will try a little after each workout and see how the body reacts and, of course, how it will affect recovery.
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Start with like a 20 min session and work your way up. The dynorphin release is crazy. You may feel a strong dysphoria and intense urge to leave the sauna after a while. Thisbis due to dynorphin activatingbthe kappa opioid receptor. This then in turn increases sensitivity of the mu opioid receptor. Helping with pain relief, increasing mood, and giving that sauna high. But it is quite uncomfortable at its peak. Check out some of the podcasts I posted before for more info on the health benefits of sauna. It one of the best things you can do for your health, truly.
barbell001
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Its much more worthwhile I've found helping animals than it is humans - animals will always be devoted to you and give you unconditional love and attention just for some food Lol Humans on the other hand can often turn on you further down the line for no other reason than going along with the crowd on an internet forum.
Hightower
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Fine. I will definitely check them out and start as you suggested. I'm sure it will do me good.
Hightower
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I completely agree, animals are grateful and sincere in their actions. They don't lie or deceive. They remember kindness and love. Yes, and I can not pass by when I see that I can help.
It sounds weird but I will do the same for trees and plants. If I see one tree fell on another tree. I will lift the tree off of it so it can stand up again and not die under the weight of the other. I've done this 3 times in the last week lol (I hike a lot).
Forests are both graveyards and the most abundant places of life. It is an interesting dichotomy. Trees communicate with one another via fungal networks as well as aerial chemicals they release to warn other trees of pests, etc. Out of really incredible. They will literally feed each other! Parents will feed their young. The parents actually purposefully make their young trees grow more slowly by throttling the amount of nutrients they provide so they form thick, strong trunks. The forests, plains, prairies, etc., are all living entities. We tend to treat them like they aren't even alive. But then again we also treat livestock the same way in feedlots. Hell, we treat humans that lost their home to an overly greedy bank, employer that laid them off, or contractor that conned them a fucked up line like they aren't alive either. Just go under the bridge into your tent peasant.
Anyway, I like trees and animals. There are too many humans.
One more thing as far as active rest. Get a rocking chair! For real, research has shown rocking Ina. Rocking chair to be extraordinarily relaxing. I got a real nice custom Amish rocking chair that i never want to get out of lol. I roll out, stretch, then rock away. It's amazing.
barbell001
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Wow is this actually true??! I honestly have never heard of this before, makes you think when snapping a branch off them next time! So where is the actual nerve centre of it, like our brain that controls the functioning of it so it stays alive?
Iamnatty
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I recently started sauna and I love it. I was nice and full on a cycle of test and dbol and after I used the sauna for a few days I felt when I looked in the mirror I looked alot smaller so idk. Maney it's in my head or mabey the sauna causes you to loose a bunch of water weight
Yes! It is crazy, trees don't have nervous systems or brains, but they do send electrical impulses through their being (albeit very slowly! IIRC it takes like 5 minutes for an electrical impulse from one part of the tree to reach down to the roots?)
It is truly incredible. Researchers have seen trees nuturing one another--even when they aren't related! Like if one tree gets injured, they have seen other nearby trees share nutrients to help keep it alive/nurse it back to health. Older trees will even change their root structure to make room for saplings.
If you are into reading or have audible and this topic is of interest, then check out the book: The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate by Peter Wohlleben, which was published in 2016.
There was also a documentary made based off the book. You can rent it on Amazon Prime Video for $5 in HD. It definitely skips over a fair amount of info that's in the book just because there isn't enough time, but it does a great job of summarizing the majority of the info and expanding upon it with more recent research that has validated and furthered the information in the book. This is one of those things that should be mandatory reading in school nowadays, as it truly changes the world and should change the way we interact with the world.
Now, does this mean the forest is conscious? As humans, we tend to anthropomorphize things like this, but the fact is that we don't really know. Individual trees certainly don't seem to be conscious. The forest doesn't seem to experience emotions--although it certainly can evoke strong emotions within us (calming us down, de-stressing, even just sitting and looking at trees lowers salivary cortisol levels). Some have suggested, although there's not enough evidence, that perhaps the root systems of trees are akin to a nervous system of sorts.
It's an evolving field of study, but we do know that trees experience a defense response when a bug starts eating their leaves, or when a human starts cutting branches or harvesting them. They will release chemicals into their leaves and such that make them taste more bitter/bad or may even be toxic to the bug. They will then send this message to other nearby trees so that they can defend themselves too, should other bugs arrive or that bug move to a different nearby tree. It is quite incredible.
Most of this is due to symbiotic relationships between certain trees and specific types of fungi. They form networks that allow them to communicate, exchange nutrients, etc. It's funny, a popular phrase among foresters and loggers is that "A forest doesn't manage itself". Implying that human intervention is needed for a healthy forest. This is total bullshit. Forests have managed themselves for millennia--and would continue to do so should we disappear. We tend to disrupt forests and ecosystems far more than we help. It is a lifelong pursuit to learn how to live in harmony with the environment and sustain a healthy forest or prairie or whatever ecosystem we live in. Most people don't even know what a healthy forest or prairie looks like. They see a forest full of Japanese honeysuckle and think it's just beautiful, when in reality it is killing the ecosystem and disrupting the entire habitat. Things will go on, yes, as they do, but not necessarily for the better. This is why I think it's so important to educate kids on this sort of thing. Our education system is still stuck in the 90s or early 2000s. This isn't even cutting edge knowledge--it's been around for 6 years! But no, the kids have to read To Kill a Mockingbird or Romeo and Juliet because that is going to make a positive impact on the world LMFAO
Hydration is critical with sauna for sure. I usually drink 16 oz of water before going into the sauna and then a big glass of water afterwards too. Sometimes I like to cool off naturally and sometimes I will go into a cold shower (though this can put a fair bit of strain on the body and mind).
Personally I love the post-sauna look. I look leaner, that subcutaneous water retention definitely goes down, but I generally still think look nice and full as long as I am eating enough. Maybe you could up your potassium intake? Eat more potatoes/sweet potatoes?
barbell001
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Ya know bud If I was 21 again and someone on a steroid forum started talking to me about trees talking to each other I'd of thought this guy is bloody nuts and probably been a but scared!!! BUT now I am nearly twice that age I actually find it extremely interesting that half of that can even happen. It kinda makes me think us humans are even bigger shits than we already are for destroying all these woodlands and chopping trees down like we couldn't give a fuck. But then again we need the wood they provide and its the same with animals - we need their muscle to build ours as selfish as we are!! Lol I dunno I guess you have to keep in mind we breed and grow most of these things to ultimately destroy and use in our day to day life.
Hey here's an interesting conversation we could also have - So I'm sat in my car today eating a Teryaki chicken sub in Italian White LMAO and along the pavement walks a mother and daughter together with their brown Dalmatian dog. It squats down and has a piss whilst everyone watches her with its sad and embarrassed face on, and I sit and think how far away were we as a human in having our Soul in that Dog and not in a human body? Having to be that dog everyday of our life having no option but to licks ones arsehole clean everyday if you want to stay clean and itch free as opposed to being able to do all the things we do daily like train, drive, eat with a knife and fork, have kinky sex etc???!! LOL And yes I do believe in Souls, Ghosts and spirits etc Lol I guess you can forever think about situations like this and never really have the answer .....
MR_Midas
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When I started to practice the sauna, I lost a lot of fluid and sometimes my muscles began to cramp. And then I first added mineral water, but it did not help much. As a result, I started using Mg, Na, K, Ca. And this solved the problem and I began to feel better overall.
Hightower
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I can only imagine how cool this is. But I'm sure it's a good way to relax. But from the way you describe it, it's a really cool way to relax and do nothing.
That feeling is nuts, i have actually stood up to walk out and than catch myself and turn around to sit down again. The steam saunas are much harder than dry heat ones. Do both work?
Megadick3000
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Hightower
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Saunas based on raw steam, it seems to me that these are baths, or whatever they are called there. Personally, I like them more, somehow pleasant I got tired of them, but dry saunas, it’s very hard in them and the condition is so-so, maybe the temperature is high for me. I also read somewhere that infrared saunas are good for recovery.
Jayne Scott
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Taking a walk works for me.
Hightower
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Yes, I myself did not believe in the power of walking. Until one day I got into an accident and ended up in the hospital. And then after the hospital it was necessary to recover. And since then, walks have helped me very well both physically and mentally to recover.
@jJjburton I like the sauna units that you can add some water to to get a little steam going. Or just dump a little water on the rocks to get some steam. I like the steam a lot and it really increases the heat transfer to your body. Increases the sweat more.
The straight up steam rooms where you can't even see the wall cuz the steam is so thick: those aren't saunas to me. I don't consider the infrared ones saunas either, although there is some guide good research on specific benefits to NIR light, I dont think the infrared ones can heat you uo enoughbto get the same level of heat shock proteins going or not.
I don't know if research has been done comparing the steam room to sauna regarding health benefitsnsuch as CVD and mortality rates. The experience with steam toom is much different. I do enjoy them a lot. I wouldn't want to maintain one at home though.
The straight up steam rooms where you can't even see the wall cuz the steam is so thick: those aren't saunas to me. I don't consider the infrared ones saunas either, although there is some guide good research on specific benefits to NIR light, I dont think the infrared ones can heat you uo enoughbto get the same level of heat shock proteins going or not.
I don't know if research has been done comparing the steam room to sauna regarding health benefitsnsuch as CVD and mortality rates. The experience with steam toom is much different. I do enjoy them a lot. I wouldn't want to maintain one at home though.
Canknucklehead
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Yup same for me. I used to skip cardio until I broke my leg... now I love walking... beats the hell out of using a walker lol
