Adding cardio

[fodsod]

Yes and no.

Depends on the amount of carbs and if you're using insulin to drive them. It's a numbers game.

If you take in so many during your training that you have an excess in your system then that's what your body will use for energy to power your cardio as carbs are the easiest and preferred source verses stored fat. So HIIT would certainly burn through the excess quicker and allow your system to keep burning at a higher rate for a few hours after you're done.

Now if you've dialed in that number to just enough to fuel the training or you've used insulin to drive those carbs to the muscle already then you're good to go with either LISS or HIIT.

The biggest issue I see with HIIT is it's not done correctly. People fall short on the "all out" part of it. You literally have to go AS HARD AS YOU PHYSICALLY ARE CAPABLE on each interval to ensure it's done right. Not everyone has the ability to push themselves that hard when it gets tough.

 

[TideGear]

Yes and no.

Depends on the amount of carbs and if you're using insulin to drive them. It's a numbers game.

If you take in so many during your training that you have an excess in your system then that's what your body will use for energy to power your cardio as carbs are the easiest and preferred source verses stored fat. So HIIT would certainly burn through the excess quicker and allow your system to keep burning at a higher rate for a few hours after you're done.

Now if you've dialed in that number to just enough to fuel the training or you've used insulin to drive those carbs to the muscle already then you're good to go with either LISS or HIIT.

The biggest issue I see with HIIT is it's not done correctly. People fall short on the "all out" part of it. You literally have to go AS HARD AS YOU PHYSICALLY ARE CAPABLE on each interval to ensure it's done right. Not everyone has the ability to push themselves that hard when it gets tough.

No insulin, I'm not that hardcore. 25g cyclic dextrin during workout. Cycle will look something like this:

4iu mauve tops
2iu in the am while fasted and then I won't eat for 3 hours.
2iu pre workout when possible, post workout when not possible.

50mg Tren ace ED
90ish mg test prop ed

Goal is recomp/beef up ever so slightly.
Because of the tren I'm gonna start by shooting for about 3k calories. I figure with that GH dosing schedule and the tren I won't be adding any fat.

I just want to make cardio a priority moving forward bc I know it's good for us. I don't guess I have to dial it in like you or some of the bodybuilders on this forum would need to. My goals don't really require it. I am ignorant when it comes to this subject though. Steady state is all I know. I have done some intense barbell complexes before and i liked that. Can i work those into HIIT?

 

[TheH0517]

I always prefer stairs bexusee I feel I’m actually getting something done.

Do you feel these can hinder recovery for legs?

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Do you feel these can hinder recovery for legs?

Natural, I’d say so. I’ve never had an issue recovering on gear though. Seems it even helps.

Though to be fair once I’m on the show prep grind I don’t really care.

I do find they’re the most effective method of LISS bexusee you’re actually doing work. The bike at any decent load is all quads, the elliptical seems like a waste, and I hate walking.

EDIT: Want to say I read an article on doing LISS after HIIT being beneficial due to how they mobilize fat. Could be a bullshit Tnation article. Don’t remember. But they said 10mins LISS after your HIIT stint.

 

[Xlgx]

MISS

 

[fodsod]

Natural, I’d say so. I’ve never had an issue recovering on gear though. Seems it even helps.

Though to be fair once I’m on the show prep grind I don’t really care.

I do find they’re the most effective method of LISS bexusee you’re actually doing work. The bike at any decent load is all quads, the elliptical seems like a waste, and I hate walking.

EDIT: Want to say I read an article on doing LISS after HIIT being beneficial due to how they mobilize fat. Could be a bullshit Tnation article. Don’t remember. But they said 10mins LISS after your HIIT stint.

Anyone that needs to do LISS after doing HIIT needs a psychiatrist and to learn to put down the fork.

Geez, what’s next? Are we going to have to just literally peel the skin off and just literally have exposed muscle tissue and whoever can survive that is the winner? Lol.

 

[TheH0517]

Natural, I’d say so. I’ve never had an issue recovering on gear though. Seems it even helps.

Though to be fair once I’m on the show prep grind I don’t really care.

I do find they’re the most effective method of LISS bexusee you’re actually doing work. The bike at any decent load is all quads, the elliptical seems like a waste, and I hate walking.

EDIT: Want to say I read an article on doing LISS after HIIT being beneficial due to how they mobilize fat. Could be a bullshit Tnation article. Don’t remember. But they said 10mins LISS after your HIIT stint.

I could definitely see how LISS after HITT would work the best as you’d make sure to deplete all glycogen stores prior to LISS.

I hate walking too but I get worn out at the end of cuts doing HITT 5+ times/week and my quads seem to cramp up baaaaaad

Edit:
I definitely get winded on the stair master and feel the cardio. I just also feel it in my legs. I feel they’re great if I can still walk out of the gym on leg day to get that last little pump in em.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I could definitely see how LISS after HITT would work the best as you’d make sure to deplete all glycogen stores prior to LISS.

I hate walking too but I get worn out at the end of cuts doing HITT 5+ times/week and my quads seem to cramp up baaaaaad

Edit:
I definitely get winded on the stair master and feel the cardio. I just also feel it in my legs. I feel they’re great if I can still walk out of the gym on leg day to get that last little pump in em.

WOAH.

HIIT 3x per week max unless you’re training for endurance/speed. The rest should be LISS. I’d definitely have a hard time recovering doing 5x.

 

[TheH0517]

WOAH.

HIIT 3x per week max unless you’re training for endurance/speed. The rest should be LISS. I’d definitely have a hard time recovering doing 5x.

Well I guess that was my problem and my body told me so so I switched over to LISS lol. I had the best results ever with HITT though. I think it was 2 days/week 10 min HITT and 2 days/week 10 min LISS. But you know how we roll. I tried to one up that this past time and failed.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

HIIT is far superior for fat loss per minute spent. But it does become overbearing when you’re in an extreme deficit grinding for the last lb of fat to be gone.

 

[KingPin42]

If 3x a week and 15 mins is what you're shooting for sprints are your friend. I've had success with both LISS and HIIT but HIIT proved superior.

 

[jackthegripper2]

Ive been hitting stair stepper in between set for 2-3minutes during weights with great results. A bit of puking at first but that was welcome!

 

[fodsod]

No insulin, I'm not that hardcore. 25g cyclic dextrin during workout. Cycle will look something like this:

4iu mauve tops
2iu in the am while fasted and then I won't eat for 3 hours.
2iu pre workout when possible, post workout when not possible.

50mg Tren ace ED
90ish mg test prop ed

Goal is recomp/beef up ever so slightly.
Because of the tren I'm gonna start by shooting for about 3k calories. I figure with that GH dosing schedule and the tren I won't be adding any fat.

I just want to make cardio a priority moving forward bc I know it's good for us. I don't guess I have to dial it in like you or some of the bodybuilders on this forum would need to. My goals don't really require it. I am ignorant when it comes to this subject though. Steady state is all I know. I have done some intense barbell complexes before and i liked that. Can i work those into HIIT?

I see. In your case, the cardio is simply for overall health so the timing is up to you and it needs to be done at an intensity that keeps your you in your target heart rate range.

HIIT will work best for some fat loss and overall heart health so I'd focus there if it doesn't interfere with your other training.

 

[Fattest_animal]

OP, I got a pdf of some HIIT trainings that can be done on the treadmill, rower, bike, etc

I also have a running training plan (for the treadmill) but it's on 4 days, I posted it on another thread.

 

[TideGear]

OP, I got a pdf of some HIIT trainings that can be done on the treadmill, rower, bike, etc

I also have a running training plan (for the treadmill) but it's on 4 days, I posted it on another thread.

You got a link to the thread?

 

[The Terminator]

MISS

I do that too, more like 30-40 minute minimum of MHISS on the stair master. Feel like I’m a super athlete cause maybe like 1 other person in the gym night crowd can last over 10-15min on the stairs lol

 

[LeoTC]

Put together a Tibata protocol tailored to each day's focus. Do three rounds and you've knocked your cardio out in 24 minutes.

You you've done it right if you hate life while doing them.

Also...it's not mind numbing boring.