Adding HGH to recomp cycle?

[DCSM]

I'm planning a recomp next year around spring and will be running 1 of the 2 following options:

Option 1: 200mg-250mg Test Cyp + 200mg-250mg Bold Cyp per week for 12-16 weeks

or

Option 2: 200mg-250mg Test Cyp + 200mg-250mg Primo E per week for 12-16 weeks

If I can get it, I will run HCG throughout the cycle at 250iu-500iu 2 x per week. I will have Aromasin on hand to combat any E2 sides as needed. PCT will be Nolva or Torem and Clomid or Enclomiphene.

I also plan to run HGH 1iu-2iu daily, starting at least 2 months prior to starting the recomp and continue running it for at least 6-12 months straight to help burn fat/preserve muscle, repair some old injuries and potentially help encourage new collagen synthesis for joints/tendons. I'd like to use the lowest effective dose possible to get results with the least amount of sides effects. Main goal is for all of this anti-aging, body recomposition, and hopefully add a bit of dry lean mass. I want to keep the recomp and or muscle gain as sublte as possible as I don't want it to be too obvious I am using any PED's due to work and family.

At the above AAS dosages which combo would be better suited for my intended goals?

Is 1iu-2iu HGH daily enough to see results over such a long time or would it be a waste? Could I get away with 1iu-1.5iu HGH daily?

I plan to inject the HGH dosage in 1 shot daily since its such a low dose. Is it better to take it at night before bed or in first thing in the morning while fasted?

Never ran Bold, Primo, or HGH before so any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Evom1]

Go with primo

2iu before fasted cardio. If you're not doing fasted cardio do it at night.

Doses look good. Use 2iu gh

 

[DCSM]

Go with primo

2iu before fasted cardio. If you're not doing fasted cardio do it at night.

Doses look good. Use 2iu gh

At 2iu GH daily, will there be any noticeable side effects (ie water retention/bloat, insulin resistance, carpal tunnel, joint pain, etc)? Thanks.

 

[Evom1]

At 2iu GH daily, will there be any noticeable side effects (ie water retention/bloat, insulin resistance, carpal tunnel, joint pain, etc)? Thanks.

There may be a small amount of water retention, it definitely is individual dependent. With that you may see a little bit of carpal tunnel but in my experience when you have higher quality growth hormone you do not run into that. As far as insulin resistance as long as you are taking it far enough away from carbs you are fine

 

[DCSM]

There may be a small amount of water retention, it definitely is individual dependent. With that you may see a little bit of carpal tunnel but in my experience when you have higher quality growth hormone you do not run into that. As far as insulin resistance as long as you are taking it far enough away from carbs you are fine

Currently eating high fat keto, and I plan to stay keto with the exception of increasing the protein a bit higher to take advantage of anabolism from the gear and HGH. My energy levels are better when primarily using fats for fuel. Plus I also figured keto would help me to get shredded faster and lower water rention/bloat. Carbs tend to make me groggy and cause peaks and valleys in my energy levels. If necessary though, I would be willing to add back up to 25g-50g carbs daily during the cycle.

 

[Evom1]

I would not use keto when trying to get someone shredded. I personally am not a fan of keto.

 

[DCSM]

I would not use keto when trying to get someone shredded. I personally am not a fan of keto.

Keto has its drawbacks for sure, but if it comes down to it I'll experiment with low carb and adding back 25g-50g carbs around work workout times on training days to see if there will be any difference.

 

[Evom1]

Keto has its drawbacks for sure, but if it comes down to it I'll experiment with low carb and adding back 25g-50g carbs around work workout times on training days to see if there will be any difference.

Definitely hope it turns out successful for you man. We all have different approaches and just want to see each other kick ass

 

[DCSM]

Definitely hope it turns out successful for you man. We all have different approaches and just want to see each other kick ass

I hope it goes well too, if not that a lot of PED money down the drain...lol! Thank you and I appreciate the help and advice.

 

[Rido]

At 2iu GH daily, will there be any noticeable side effects (ie water retention/bloat, insulin resistance, carpal tunnel, joint pain, etc)? Thanks.

I was having significant water retention on 5-6. Its my first bulk and never had the effects of GH sides to this degree. My take away is, if you are on a cut/recomp. GH sides aren't as bad as a bulk.

 

[DCSM]

I was having significant water retention on 5-6. Its my first bulk and never had the effects of GH sides to this degree. My take away is, if you are on a cut/recomp. GH sides aren't as bad as a bulk.

Ok that's good to know. How about other sides like carpal tunnel, joint pain, insulin resistance? Also have you noticed a huge difference running 2iu daily vs 5iu-6iu? I will be trying keep the water retention and any other sides at a minimum from every aspect including PED's and diet. If don't see much result or sides from 2iu, I may increase to 3iu possibly. But I'm hoping I will get the desired results from 2iu max daily.

 

[Evom1]

Just one note, if you do 3iu I would split the dose. I believe it's fat burning abilities are maxed out at a 2iu per dose limit. So I personally would do 1.5iu before bed and 1.5iu early morning. Not that 3iu at once is bad, but it's unlikely you'd see an increased rate of fat loss doing so

 

[Rido]

Ok that's good to know. How about other sides like carpal tunnel, joint pain, insulin resistance? Also have you noticed a huge difference running 2iu daily vs 5iu-6iu? I will be trying keep the water retention and any other sides at a minimum from every aspect including PED's and diet. If don't see much result or sides from 2iu, I may increase to 3iu possibly. But I'm hoping I will get the desired results from 2iu max daily.

I noticed some joint pain is gone now... Makes me wonder. No blood sugar issues surprisingly. Everyone is different. I ran as high as 10iu. Felt some real lethargy

I also feel like 5-6, diet didn't matter for water. If I was hypercaloric, I was gonna suffer...

I just had alot of hgh. I will eventually restart at 3 IU daily. Maybe back to 5 when I cut again

 

[DCSM]

I've read that 3iu-4iu is usually the top end of the range where the HGH is effective with minimal side effects if any, and at 4iu+ sides start to manifest and worsen as the dose get higher and higher. Have you found that to be the case where 3iu-4iu is the max dosage off for minimal sides? Also do you notice a significant increase in benefits when increasing the dose from 2iu to 3iu to 4iu? Btw are you running UGL or Pharma grade? If UGL how is the purity and potency?

 

[Rido]

I've read that 3iu-4iu is usually the top end of the range where the HGH is effective with minimal side effects if any, and at 4iu+ sides start to manifest and worsen as the dose get higher and higher. Have you found that to be the case where 3iu-4iu is the max dosage off for minimal sides? Also do you notice a significant increase in benefits when increasing the dose from 2iu to 3iu to 4iu? Btw are you running UGL or Pharma grade? If UGL how is the purity and potency?

Probably 3-4 has the best benefit to side ratio. Haven't been in the game long enough.

You have to do your research on different sources with their testing

 

[lilhawk]

I've read that 3iu-4iu is usually the top end of the range where the HGH is effective with minimal side effects if any, and at 4iu+ sides start to manifest and worsen as the dose get higher and higher. Have you found that to be the case where 3iu-4iu is the max dosage off for minimal sides? Also do you notice a significant increase in benefits when increasing the dose from 2iu to 3iu to 4iu? Btw are you running UGL or Pharma grade? If UGL how is the purity and potency?

I run up to 6-8 iu of GH with no side effects other than a little lethargy. Haven't gone higher than that. The results are great, and I always use metformin for the health benefits so blood glucose is always normal. I only use Serostim.

 

[DCSM]

I run up to 6-8 iu of GH with no side effects other than a little lethargy. Haven't gone higher than that. The results are great, and I always use metformin for the health benefits so blood glucose is always normal. I only use Serostim.

How were your doses split throughout the day? I'll be using herbal GDA's (glucose disposal agents) to help with overall blood glucose management. I usually use these when dieting/recomping as it always seems to help reduce bloat and keep blood sugar levels stable. For the GH I'll probably be running generic HGH from China in order to keep it practical for long term use.

 

[Rido]

My bloat was terrible on a bulk. For recomp I could run 6 every night with no issues.

 

[legacypharma]

Test @ 200-250mg / week
GH @ 1.5iu Pre Fasted Cardio + 1.5iu Before Bed
12.5mcg Cytomel

- LP

 

[Slicknyc]

4-5iu per day of pharm grade hgh is an excellent dose for fat burning and to give a beach body look. You will see your body taper nicely and maintain size while losing fat which is the most difficult part of bodybuilding. IMHO 2iu/day isn’t enough for noticeable fat burning. At 4iu you will notice a significant change in 10–12 weeks. I usually did my serostim first thing in the AM. Alway waited about another 60-90 minutes to eat.