Adding HGH to recomp cycle?

[DCSM]

Thank you for everyone's feedback so far. Based on feed back, I've decided on 250mg Test C/E, 200mg-300mg Primo E, 3iu-4iu HGH, and 250iu-500iu HCG (2 x weekly) for 12-16 weeks followed by PCT and will continue running the HGH as long as possible. I'm looking forward to seeing what this stack can do for me.

 

[kakaboom!21]

IMO 4ius is a sufficient dose for most, some people have to start adding insulin at 6-7ius already. If it's real Pharma GH you will notice effects of even 1.5-2ius in the mirror after 2 weeks of using it.
Those who say they don't see results from that low of a dose are probably either overestimating the GH effects or are getting under-dosed stuff.
1iu a day for 4 months of GH only and my wife literally turned into a different person. Skin, hair quality, fat distribution, better cardio performance etc. Her IGF-1 was in the high normal after only 1 iu for 2 months.
Granted guys being bigger need a higher dose, so 2ius would still be enough over that long time span. There's absolutely no need in messing up your insulin sensitivity just to burn fat.
Also, having experimented with pretty much every GH brand on the market, I can tell you that it works way better in smaller doses over longer periods of time than blasts of high doses.
With your supply of HGH, you can literally run 2ius for twice as long. It will also be an amazing growth stimulus for when you come off your test C and start HCG.

 

[DCSM]

The HGH will be run long term for anti-aging purposes and also to help heal up some nagging injuries. I will be starting HGH before the AAS cycle and just keep running it as long as I can from that point on. When not running AAS, I'll probably keep it at 2iu daily, and when running AAS will try bumping it up to 3iu-4iu daily in order to maximize the cycle. It sounds like I shouldn't expect any major side effects at 3iu-4iu daily, but if any sides appears I'll just back it down to 2iu as that seems to a very safe and effective daily dose.

 

[steroiduser2023dood]

Just one note, if you do 3iu I would split the dose. I believe it's fat burning abilities are maxed out at a 2iu per dose limit. So I personally would do 1.5iu before bed and 1.5iu early morning. Not that 3iu at once is bad, but it's unlikely you'd see an increased rate of fat loss doing so

Why do you recommend taking before bed? I am new to all this and I am just curious.

 

[Rido]

Why do you recommend taking before bed? I am new to all this and I am just curious.

avoid elevated BG from oral intake too, makes you sleepy. enhances recovery

 

[lilhawk]

How were your doses split throughout the day? I'll be using herbal GDA's (glucose disposal agents) to help with overall blood glucose management. I usually use these when dieting/recomping as it always seems to help reduce bloat and keep blood sugar levels stable. For the GH I'll probably be running generic HGH from China in order to keep it practical for long term use.

At 6 iu per day I did 2 iu am, 2 iu pre workout, and 2 iu before bed.

 

[DCSM]

At 6 iu per day I did 2 iu am, 2 iu pre workout, and 2 iu before bed.

Did you experience any elevated BG and/or insulin resistance issues doing this way?

 

[Rido]

Did you experience any elevated BG and/or insulin resistance issues doing this way?

I have done 6iu with no issues(With BG), no issues.

Stick to 3(maybe 4 max). no reason to go higher. just causes issues.

 

[Jaxino]

I'm planning a recomp next year around spring and will be running 1 of the 2 following options:

Option 1: 200mg-250mg Test Cyp + 200mg-250mg Bold Cyp per week for 12-16 weeks

or

Option 2: 200mg-250mg Test Cyp + 200mg-250mg Primo E per week for 12-16 weeks

If I can get it, I will run HCG throughout the cycle at 250iu-500iu 2 x per week. I will have Aromasin on hand to combat any E2 sides as needed. PCT will be Nolva or Torem and Clomid or Enclomiphene.

I also plan to run HGH 1iu-2iu daily, starting at least 2 months prior to starting the recomp and continue running it for at least 6-12 months straight to help burn fat/preserve muscle, repair some old injuries and potentially help encourage new collagen synthesis for joints/tendons. I'd like to use the lowest effective dose possible to get results with the least amount of sides effects. Main goal is for all of this anti-aging, body recomposition, and hopefully add a bit of dry lean mass. I want to keep the recomp and or muscle gain as sublte as possible as I don't want it to be too obvious I am using any PED's due to work and family.

At the above AAS dosages which combo would be better suited for my intended goals?

Is 1iu-2iu HGH daily enough to see results over such a long time or would it be a waste? Could I get away with 1iu-1.5iu HGH daily?

I plan to inject the HGH dosage in 1 shot daily since its such a low dose. Is it better to take it at night before bed or in first thing in the morning while fasted?

Never ran Bold, Primo, or HGH before so any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks.this

Don't recomp, you will loose just time.
Just jump on a cut to a 6-8% then grow.

Dosages imho are very low but I don't read your stats so....

In general to stay conservative I would use at least 1g gear something like 500 testE 4-500 Primo 2-4iu HGH some Clen (dose is up to you, everyone has different sensitivity) 10-12 weeks and you should be done to rebound on something like Test Npp or the same cycle but just eat more and remove the Clen. Salbutamol is good too.
When dieting you will be very insulin sensitive so no big worries, but you can always add 500mg Metformin before bed, it won't hurt.

I would never do PCT just cruise (125-250 TestE) and "blast" or blast and blast, depends on your goals.

 

[DCSM]

Don't recomp, you will loose just time.
Just jump on a cut to a 6-8% then grow.

Dosages imho are very low but I don't read your stats so....

In general to stay conservative I would use at least 1g gear something like 500 testE 4-500 Primo 2-4iu HGH some Clen (dose is up to you, everyone has different sensitivity) 10-12 weeks and you should be done to rebound on something like Test Npp or the same cycle but just eat more and remove the Clen. Salbutamol is good too.
When dieting you will be very insulin sensitive so no big worries, but you can always add 500mg Metformin before bed, it won't hurt.

I would never do PCT just cruise (125-250 TestE) and "blast" or blast and blast, depends on your goals.

Thanks for the input. I tend to be a high aromatizer, so I am trying not to be too aggressive with the Test. Also I've never run Primo so I want to start off on a lower dose to assess any potential sides, although I don't expect anything major. I'll be keeping a log so that I can adjust dosages if necessary. Once I've got a feel for how I respond to Test/Primo, I'll probably be inclined to up the dose. I've run a few basic cycles with 10-12weeks of 500mg Test E/C, sometimes with some Dbol sprinkled in the first 4 weeks. I did pretty well on those cycles and gained a solid base. I would prefer to use conservative amounts of gear and focus more on the training, diet, nutrition, recovery, and lifestyle aspects.

I will probably just go straight into a cut as you had suggested. I've decided to go with 250mg Test C/E + 200mg Primo E per week for 12-16 weeks and 2iu-4iu HGH daily. If the sides are minimal at the 5-6 week mark I'll probably increase the dosages of both Test and Primo and see how that feels. I'll be using berberine, gymnema, banaba, GTF chromium, vanadyl sulfate and other GDA's/Insulin Mimetics to help with insulin sensitivity and I've done pretty well previously using those while cutting.