Advanced cycle advice

[Necrodamus]

Hello everyone, I am new to these forums but was looking on a little advice/input for my next cycle I have planned for later this year.

I have 6-7 cycles under my belt and I only do about 1 per year. My training and nutrition are on point and I'm sitting at around 9-10% BF right now. My next cycle im doing mainly a cutting/recomp stack with most compounds on the milder side of things.

Here's my plan
Week 1-12 Test P
Week 1-12 Primo
Week 1-6 tbol
Week 1-6 anavar low/med dose
Week 2-8 NPP
Week 3-9 Mast E
Week 6-12 Proviron
Week 7-12 Inj. Win

Primo 700/week
Tbol 40-60mg a day
Test prop 400-500/week
Mast E 400-600/week
Proviron 70-100 mg
Inj. Win 50mg/day
NPP 400-600/week

Exemstane 12.5 mg EOD
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Hcg 500iu ED
Will have caber on hand

And of course a bunch of vitamins/supplements including ru58841 and TUDCA/NAC/Milk Thistle for liver support

I'd appreciate all input. On dosages mainly & when would be the best time to start/end the hcg, the best dosage of caber if I need it and when, and if I should drop some of the aromasin later on in the cycle when I'm running the mast/proviron.

Ill be getting bloods every 3-4 weeks while on cycle

 

[Mac11wildcat]

8 compounds huh?

Why so complicated? Are you competing? What’re the rest of your stats? What does “diet on point” mean?

This screams “abusing drugs to avoid doing real work,” but that’s just my take. During week 6 you’ve got almost 3g of total gear before you add in whatever “low/med dose” anavar is...

As far as the cycle goes you’re almost gauranteed to induce a plateau with 4 drugs used upfront, including NPP vs layering them later into the cycle to gradually increase total dosage. A flat 500iu HCG ED for PCT is also a less than optimal plan...

 

[little]

Hello everyone, I am new to these forums but was looking on a little advice/input for my next cycle I have planned for later this year.

I have 6-7 cycles under my belt and I only do about 1 per year. My training and nutrition are on point and I'm sitting at around 9-10% BF right now. My next cycle im doing mainly a cutting/recomp stack with most compounds on the milder side of things.

Here's my plan
Week 1-12 Test P
Week 1-12 Primo
Week 1-6 tbol
Week 1-6 anavar low/med dose
Week 2-8 NPP
Week 3-9 Mast E
Week 6-12 Proviron
Week 7-12 Inj. Win

Primo 700/week
Tbol 40-60mg a day
Test prop 400-500/week
Mast E 400-600/week
Proviron 70-100 mg
Inj. Win 50mg/day
NPP 400-600/week

Exemstane 12.5 mg EOD
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Hcg 500iu ED
Will have caber on hand

And of course a bunch of vitamins/supplements including ru58841 and TUDCA/NAC/Milk Thistle for liver support

I'd appreciate all input. On dosages mainly & when would be the best time to start/end the hcg, the best dosage of caber if I need it and when, and if I should drop some of the aromasin later on in the cycle when I'm running the mast/proviron.

Ill be getting bloods every 3-4 weeks while on cycle

Step 1) Look at your body in mirrors, yes mirror(s) because you need more than one peek to get reality.

step 2) Look at Macs profile pic

step 3) Dig up Macs “blast”

step 4) compare your proposed blast to Mackey D’s

step 5) quit bodybuilding












Jk but really just follow Macs log from the beginning. Simple gear hard training great food BOOOM

 

[little]

Hmm. Just had a thought. Im pretty sure I’ve read the words “Mac11wildcat dick riders” here before.... well. He’s good as fuck so

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Hmm. Just had a thought. Im pretty sure I’ve read the words “Mac11wildcat dick riders” here before.... well. He’s good as fuck so

Welcome to the dickrider club. Be sure to grab your free tshirt and secret decoder ring on your way out.

OP, I don’t think everyone has to or should do it my way, that’d be ridiculous...but if you don’t have a decent answer for “why” you’re doing stuff i think thing’s need to be rethought.

 

[Necrodamus]

8 compounds huh?

Why so complicated? Are you competing? What’re the rest of your stats? What does “diet on point” mean?

This screams “abusing drugs to avoid doing real work,” but that’s just my take. During week 6 you’ve got almost 3g of total gear before you add in whatever “low/med dose” anavar is...

As far as the cycle goes you’re almost gauranteed to induce a plateau with 4 drugs used upfront, including NPP vs layering them later into the cycle to gradually increase total dosage. A flat 500iu HCG ED for PCT is also a less than optimal plan...

Well, the main reason why is because I can.. with all the compounds listed there's a reason for all of them in a cutting cycle; 8 compounds yes, but like i said half of them are rather mild in effects and in terms of toxicity/harshness. In the plan i listed ill be running 5 or 6 at most for any extended period of time. Its only a 12 week blast.. & Yes, I was competing but there have been no shows recently due to all thats going on. Like the title says I'm seeking advice for an advanced cycle this time, I only do 1 per year or less. I'm not gonna post my diet/training regimen as I feel its irrelevant to the topic and pretty commonplace across the board for most bodybuilders. Again, i do appreciate your feedback. I agree the hcg is a bit too much.. thats why I was seeking advice on it mainly, so I plan on changing that as well as a little less aromasin. If you would give me your reccomended timing/dosage it would be of great help.

And lmao at using drugs to avoid doing any real work. I'd be more than happy to send you a pic of what I look like recently still with almost 18 months off anything that alters my hormones in any way. I definitely put in more than enough work bro I don't really have to prove that to anyone but myself tbh. I thank you for your criticism, although I'd wish it'd be a little more constructive and give me some input on the dosages of the compounds I asked about.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I’d never recommend 8 compound cycles to anyone with the goal of recomposition to begin with so I’m probably not your guy. If you’re using 8 drugs that include multiple orals now what’re you doing for contest prep stacks? If you’re using 3.8 grams now how high does your contest stack go?

I don’t need photos of you. Nor do you need to prove anything to me. If your “why” for all of those is “because I can” then I guess that’s that.

As far as PCT goes, plenty of threads here with appropriate protocols.

As far as your gear use goes, I gave you constructive comments and you ignored em. You made no mention of your stats, prior cycles, etc, so how the fuck could I recommend dosages and a stack to you? If you’re so advanced why’re your asking a forum for simplistic conceptual advice?

 

[Necrodamus]

I’d never recommend 8 compound cycles to anyone with the goal of recomposition to begin with so I’m probably not your guy. If you’re using 8 drugs that include multiple orals now what’re you doing for contest prep stacks? If you’re using 3.8 grams now how high does your contest stack go?

I don’t need photos of you. Nor do you need to prove anything to me. If your “why” for all of those is “because I can” then I guess that’s that.

As far as PCT goes, plenty of threads here with appropriate protocols.

As far as your gear use goes, I gave you constructive comments and you ignored em. You made no mention of your stats, prior cycles, etc, so how the fuck could I recommend dosages and a stack to you? If you’re so advanced why’re your asking a forum for simplistic conceptual advice?

Lol why are you so mad bro?? Maybe you need to lay off the roids for a little bit

You started off by talking shit, saying I did no work and just was using gear to get results without doing anything; with no proof. Then you get some dickriders in my thread, no hate to him at all. he self-proclaimed as a dickrider and I'm fine with that, at least he's honest lol. You honestly didn't give me anything constructive at all, you just started off by hating then pretty much scolded me for my decisions, which holds no weight to me. You didn't give me advice on anything I asked for, and I never claimed to be "advanced" at all haha.. I just said I was planning on running an advanced cycle, which this is. I posted on this forum because Im aware I don't know everything, a problem which you don't seem to have. I was completely respectful to you, even after you're first post, then you just keep on talking shit, which didn't really surprise me. It sounds like you need to fix your head bro if you get your fortitude from trolling on an online forum to people asking for a little assistance.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

You’re right. Instead of pushing you through revising your proposed plan by making you think if you really need 4grams of fucking gear I should’ve held your hand and outlined an appropriate cycle and PCT that could found in hundreds of threads here. When I asked “why,” you said “because.” I said what I said because it’s right far more often than it’s wrong. Take any group of AAS users; 90% are taking double the drugs they need for goal because they won’t fucking eat or train hard. So you might think hoping on here and asking for critiques on a cycle with ZERO consideration for your stats or the diet, training, and recovery to back it up is relevant. But it isn’t.

Anything I said in response to you asking for cycle help with 8 compounds and 4g without knowing even a tiny bit about you would be fucking trash.

You want me to respond blindly? Test at 500/primo at 600/mast at 350 and save anavar for the last 6 weeks. No fucking clue how much you’ve used before, how much you weigh, how tall you are, or how you eat, but fuck it. Run with it.

On another note, you’re not gonna like it here if you thought THAT was shit talking and disrespectful.

 

[ickyrica]

Painful thread. I'd recommend letting this dumpster fire run its course. Nobody wants to sort through what is left, just let it turn to ash and blow away in the wind.

appreciate all input

no, you don't. You've made that abundantly clear. And another troll thread about "my cycle"? Can we at least troll creatively?