Advice on dialing in primobolan: test ratio + Estrogen management

[Iron_Yuppie]

That's a lot of words for "I don't understand the concept of genetics"

The guy who thinks all primo is actually masteron probably doesn’t have a lot of wiggle room when it comes to his understanding of things. But stay mad, I guess. That plus $3 gets you a cup of coffee (or maybe it’s secretly chicory mislabeled as coffee).

 

[FlyGuy3232]

The guy who thinks all primo is actually masteron probably doesn’t have a lot of wiggle room when it comes to his understanding of things. But stay mad, I guess. That plus $3 gets you a cup of coffee (or maybe it’s secretly chicory mislabeled as coffee).

Proving yet again that you can't read.

Just keep sending it dude.

 

[Live_Evil]

People who are vigilant enough to get regular blood work aren’t buying their primo from Dave’s Bathtub Labs. They’re buying HPLC tested primo and then posting blood work showing that it lowers e2. Hell, up until about a year and a half ago the majority of people at Meso had no idea that EQ could crush your e2. This place is about a half decade behind the current data, which is maybe the only problem with this otherwise great community.

Agreed. I really like this forum for the community, but it's pretty far behind the science curve. Alot of the guys here constantly argue against studies and pretend like science is useless in the AAS arena, which is hilarious.

Primo definitely has the ability to act as an AI, although it's case dependent.

 

[Toaster]

Seems like multiple people are arguing that Primo acts as an AI based on anecdotal evidence. Some going as far as proclaiming it's 100% effective an AI.

It definitely seems to lower E2 in some people. I was under the assumption that enough of any non aromatizing compound has the potential to lower E2 as it basically outcompetes test for lack of a better description.

I'm no scientist though, just repeating what I've seen and read like others.

 

[FlyGuy3232]

Seems like multiple people are arguing that Primo acts as an AI based on anecdotal evidence. Some going as far as proclaiming it's 100% effective an AI.

It definitely seems to lower E2 in some people. I was under the assumption that enough of any non aromatizing compound has the potential to lower E2 as it basically outcompetes test for lack of a better description.

I'm no scientist though, just repeating what I've seen and read like others.

Yes, see my comment earlier.

They can tend to weakly bind to the Aromatase enzyme and occupy it so nothing gets done. Masteron just appears to do this more than other non-aromatizing compounds.

With Primo this can in rare cases result in some downward pressure on E2, but generally it is hardly noticeable if at all.

Most people who run Mast will experience a decent downregulation of E2 blood serum values. That is what it was designed to do.

 

[FlyGuy3232]

Agreed. I really like this forum for the community, but it's pretty far behind the science curve. Alot of the guys here constantly argue against studies and pretend like science is useless in the AAS arena, which is hilarious.

Primo definitely has the ability to act as an AI, although it's case dependent.

Where is a study proving that Primo acts as an AI?

 

[PeterBond]

This thread needs less opinions and more studies supporting claims.

 

[Type-IIx]

Please teach us, @PeterBond

 

[ludi_janez]

I've personally talked to Eastern EU guys who cannot get legit Primo at all and they've even had it checked only to find out it was just Deca.

youve talked to guys who cant even get legit primo? great..

 

[FlyGuy3232]

youve talked to guys who cant even get legit primo? great..

Yes. Not everyone lives in a place where it is easy to get.

Many countries are so restrictive that non-domestic shipping is essentially not available so they can only buy from whoever is local and generally has somewhat of a monopoly.

Assuming everyone has equal access is incredibly ignorant.

 

[bodybuilder8806]

That's simply wrong. I've seen plenty of people running Primo at pretty low doses together with test (for example 200 Test 200 Primo) and still get their E2 quite a bit lower than usual. It seems to be ratio dependent, i.e. the more the Primo the more of an AI effect you get. Also many people have reported crashing their E2 with ratios like 1:2 or higher. Yeah probably doesn't happen with everybody, but there is plenty of anecdotal evidence of that.

I myself am example of that. Running 100 mg/week Test keeps my E2 around 40 pg/mL. Adding 200 mg/week Primo to that sends my E2 below 10 pg/mL. Confirmed by multiple blood tests. Also my Primo is 100% legit - tested with Jano sending an anonymous sample.

Pretty much got the exact same result myself. Was using around 70mg Test 200iu HCG / day and HMG twice weekly. Total estrogen not just E2 tanked to below 10.