Advice on Direction from here 6 weeks in TEST PRIMO NPP

Buffed Shark

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Hola everyone


Would like to hear some feedback on my current status/lab/cycle

IF YOU WANT TO SKIP OVER THE THE BACKGROND GOT O THE PARAGRAPH BELOW STARTING AT "so to summerize"

For quick contest. I'm 41 been lifting natty all my life (also have about 10+ yrs greco roman wrestling 85-93kg weight classes) with lower bf and good muscle size most of the time. With pendemic and shifting to working from home gained a significant amount of weight. Went from my average 205 - 210 to 260 been struggling up and down with it. Until about 2 yrs ago i hopped on TRT started changing my gym routine add cardio and obviously track food.
Dropped to 210 in about 6 months or so some good new gains was on 150mg split on 2 weekly shots. Did a couple more cycles here and there but nothing crazy.

About a year ago decided to get a coach although i was doing a great job and literally crushing every goal i guess i thought i was doing the right thing and although i have years of experience in nutrition and working out i decided to with this "pro prep coach" long story short after 4 months working on a lean bulk i was 35-40lbs heavier with crushed E2 bloated like an atlantic ocean buoy. Crushed lipids and feeling terrible.

So i fired him nicely. Went on a defecit for 4 months added reta cut out the ai that innever needed upped the cardio flipped the diet for my specific body response and experience and in about 3 months i dropped about 20 lbs and was back at a good base crusing on 200test 4 ius and 4mg of reta weekly.

I wasnt very happy with my gains especially i spent a year in this up and down cycle with very minimal gains. So i decided to go on a lean bulk.

Started titrating test up slowly from 200 mg till it got to 500 mg when i started to notice some very mild mood swings went for bloods e2 was at 45 i didnt want to push test further without ai and didnt like how my body responded to ai so introduced primo 50 - 100 to eventually 200MG weekly while upping the test to 600 and added npp at 100 mg weekly.

So to summerize i'm currently on 600 mg test cyp 200 mg primo 100 mg npp 6 iu daily gh and about 6mg weekly reta. I just touched 6 weeks mark on this cycle and my blood work just came back.

Test total = 3500
Test free= 1050
E2 ultra sensetive= 47
Lipids slightly off but at least they are back within range.
Only thing i'm a little effy about is T3 uptake came back 2 points out of range not worried about it but certinly wann hear feed back. Also my t4 is in the lower end of the range although still in green. Previous t3 and t4 were within mid range measures.

My question is 1st off this is the 1st time my total test goes over 1500 so not sure i even need that much. My e2 is in perfect range but am afraid if i cut down test even with keeping the same ratio it will mess up everything especially i worked diligently to track and build this cycle and get to good ratio. Below is a pic from week 1 to week 6 on my current cycle. I'm making ok gains and scale is still dropping which is good.

My goal is to continue trimming up while adding more muscle. I know the leaner i get the harder it is and science says bla bla bla but i never had a problem adding size and strength all my life in a deficit. I'm not looking to compete or get stage lean. Mainly keep adding more clean muscle and keep loosing fat.

My original plan was to work this cycle for 12 weeks and assess but at week 6 seeing my test came back high and although rbc (slighltly higher but within range of past cycles)hamatocrit hemoglobin are all fine not so sure i wanna have this high level at the end of the day i'm not competing. Also i'm on good momentum that i want to keep. So where do you think I should go from here?

1st picture is b4 and after coach sodium blotate

2md picture b4 and after from 6 weeks ago and yesterday
 

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I think you’re putting the cart before the horse here. Trying to gain muscle on a deficit. I would continue this cycle and just focus on clean gains. Drop to a cruise and keep the Reta and gh in after to shed any unwanted fat but you probably won’t gain much on those drugs. If you’re not competing you don’t and I’m sure you don’t want to get stage ready shredded anyways.
 
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