AI on 400mg/week of Test E

[DaddyGoneBaddy]

maybe try arimidex?
friend of mine had issue that aromasin did very little for him, 25mg ed on 500mg of test and he still had high esterogen with sides. switched to arimidex and in one week he was fine.

I was going to say this very thing. Aromisin just doesn't do it for me when I'm blasting and get higher E I have to use lower dose Arimidex .25mg a few times a week and I'm good to go. Maybe .5mg if I'm not running Primo and Mast (rare). Both good legit pharma grade from same pharma compounds, simply that eximistane does not suicide my E nearly as much as the suggested doses seem to for others. Just may need to try. I think the fact aromisin allows more bounce back of estrogen that it helps my libido too? I feel less horny on asin.

 

[jcj5000]

You mention being 14% on InBody, those usually horribly underestimate body fat.

First time I ever used one for a few weeks I was around 11.5->12.5%, got a DEXA and it turns out I was 18.9%.

Wife had a similar jump though more in the 4-5% range.

Just a heads up it’s likely higher than you think.

That's good to know, thanks. I'll start using a different method.

 

[RockyP]

For folks over 15% BF i think an AI / primo / EQ is likely necessary (check bloods first) in some dosage for Test dosages at / above 300.

 

[Corduroy]

Assuming your body fat is actually higher than 14% (let's say 18% for instance if you had DEXA), I wonder how much your aromatase activity might drop if you lost more BF using a low dose GLP med? You could look better, require less arimidex, lower LDL/increase HDL, lower BP, etc etc just from some low dose weekly tirzepatide.

 

[RockyP]

Assuming your body fat is actually higher than 14% (let's say 18% for instance if you had DEXA), I wonder how much your aromatase activity might drop if you lost more BF using a low dose GLP med? You could look better, require less arimidex, lower LDL/increase HDL, lower BP, etc etc just from some low dose weekly tirzepatide.

Yes. If you're not reasonably lean, I think anything over TRT levels of test is going to lead to aromatizing problems. And the good news is that you don't need more than TRT to preserve lean tissue while losing BF.

 

[BabaJagga]

Yes. If you're not reasonably lean, I think anything over TRT levels of test is going to lead to aromatizing problems. And the good news is that you don't need more than TRT to preserve lean tissue while losing BF.

i blasted 500mg while fat earlier this year and i had basicly 0 issues with estrogen. got it under control with aromasin, 1 and half 25mg pill per week, i needed 2 blood tests to confirm.

friend had more than double estorgen levels on 300mg as i had on same 300mg and he was much leaner than i.

i would say its highly individual. also, there is scenario where fat guy is used to higher esteogen.

 

[RockyP]

i blasted 500mg while fat earlier this year and i had basicly 0 issues with estrogen. got it under control with aromasin, 1 and half 25mg pill per week, i needed 2 blood tests to confirm.

friend had more than double estorgen levels on 300mg as i had on same 300mg and he was much leaner than i.

i would say its highly individual. also, there is scenario where fat guy is used to higher esteogen.

Fair point - definitely a lot of variability. There was someone on here who was running over 1 gram of primo on TRT levels of test with no problems with low E2, and the primo was confirmed legit.

 

[BabaJagga]

Fair point - definitely a lot of variability. There was someone on here who was running over 1 gram of primo on TRT levels of test with no problems with low E2, and the primo was confirmed legit.

yea, its not black and white with these drugs... while fat, on 300mg weekly without ai my estrogen was 54 i think and i had 0
issues with it. that friend had 100+ on same dose and also 0 issues with it.

i know guys irl that are quite fat and have 0 issues with high test and esteogen and others that are skinny and cant get it right.

what works with ine doesnt work with others and i think its more trial/error.

 

[Southeastbeast1]

Appreciate everyone who posted their experience with ADex vs Aromasin

I've been considering switching from ADex to Aromasin for logistical reasons and was trying to determine if Aromasin worked just as well assuming the dosages were aligned properly but after reading some of these posts and knowing ADex works well for me it's not worth the hassle trying to switch. Sounds like Aromasin is harder to lock in.

 

[TREE44]

What a generic cookie cutter statement. How do you know that.
You shouldnt take AI’s on a schedule

Why not ?

 

[lvz]

Why not ?

because if ur estrogen is already low u dont want to completely crash it, u wanna be in a healthy range, and taking an ai on schedule might fuck up that balance so ai should only be taken if u start getting estrogenic side effects, or if ur blood tests indicate a high level of e2 present in ur blood

 

[Mishka]

I do take no AI on 1500 mg per week. Very individual.

But I‘d suggest to go by feel, not by a paper / bloodwork. No need to be „in range“ for no reason if you feel good.

 

[TREE44]

I do take no AI on 1500 mg per week. Very individual.

But I‘d suggest to go by feel, not by a paper / bloodwork. No need to be „in range“ for no reason if you feel good.

What are the downsides and risks with high E2? What about gyno, how do you know if it's coming if you feel good on higher e2 ?

 

[Mishka]

What are the downsides and risks with high E2? What about gyno, how do you know if it's coming if you feel good on higher e2 ?

You will feel the nipple itching.
Like when a wound heals.

That would be the first sign. So if I would have that like 2-3 days for no obvious reason, I’d start to check if there’s some kind of lump - like you put your left arm up, hand behind your head / neck, and with your right hand you go across the chest and feel the left nipple. If there is a lump you should get it checked or even consider an AI instantly. Tho it also could be a adipomastia instead of a gyno.

 

[TREE44]

You will feel the nipple itching.
Like when a wound heals.

That would be the first sign. So if I would have that like 2-3 days for no obvious reason, I’d start to check if there’s some kind of lump - like you put your left arm up, hand behind your head / neck, and with your right hand you go across the chest and feel the left nipple. If there is a lump you should get it checked or even consider an AI instantly. Tho it also could be a adipomastia instead of a gyno.

By get it checked you mean go and get your bloods and look at the results ? Let's say you do feel a lump would Anastrozole, Exemestane be enough for that or would you need Nolvadex ?

 

[Mishka]

By get it checked you mean go and get your bloods and look at the results ? Let's say you do feel a lump would Anastrozole, Exemestane be enough for that or would you need Nolvadex ?

I mean go to a doc and he will check if it is a Gyno or a Lipo.

I got no idea - I‘d personally try to stop it a/ Exemestane - worst case I‘d get it removed completely so it can’t ever regrow.

 

[Elektrobot]

By get it checked you mean go and get your bloods and look at the results ? Let's say you do feel a lump would Anastrozole, Exemestane be enough for that or would you need Nolvadex ?

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[Bocacolony]

Just got my most recent bloods back, and apparently by latest vial has been absolute shit. With no changes in dosage, my TT has gone from 2600 to 1700, FT from 450 to 254, and my bioavailable test is now in the high NORMAL physiological range. So that's very fucking disappointing.

Dude, I'm sorry to hear that, I think the same night have happened to me, is this pretty common? How did you find out, just the blood work?

 

[ripper908]

no need for an ai crew

highest I ever went test wise was 750 a week and needed nothing luckily

 

[jcj5000]

Dude, I'm sorry to hear that, I think the same night have happened to me, is this pretty common? How did you find out, just the blood work?

It's probably pretty common because there are hundreds of sites out there that are not reputable. My mistake is not using a reputable website that you can find here on mesorx, steroidify, eroids etc. I took a recommendation from a friend. There are so many BS companies out there that don't rely on a strong reputation, and I fell for that trap. Now, I know that and only look at sites that are definitely legitimate. And it helps to check the janoshik test results as well. Just my 2 cents
I found out through bloodwork, yes.