AITA for thinking today’s “cycles” are basically homeopathic?

[Ron OG Mouse]

Alright, I’m ready to be judged by the jury of bros. Am I the asshole here, or am I just old?

For context: when I first came up, my first cycle was 500mg of test and 400mg of EQ. That was considered… normal. Conservative even. Nobody threw a parade, nobody clutched pearls. It was just, “Cool, eat more and train harder.”

Later on? I’d often run 750mg of test with 500mg of tren. Again—pretty standard for the era. Not saying it was smart, not saying it was healthy, not saying anyone should do that now. Just saying that’s what the landscape looked like back then.

Fast-forward to today and I read cycle logs that look like this:

• “Thinking about 120mg test”
• “Might add 50mg of something if sides are okay”
• “Basically TRT+ but I call it a blast”

And everyone’s shredded, tracking biomarkers, wearing CGMs, quoting PubMed, and talking about longevity. Meanwhile I’m sitting here thinking, “Is this a cycle… or a multivitamin?”

Don’t get me wrong—I actually respect a lot of it. Lower doses, better drugs, better food, better knowledge, fewer people wrecking themselves just to gain 8 lbs of water and ego. That’s objectively a good thing.

But part of my brain still does a double-take when I see numbers that wouldn’t have moved the needle back in the day. It’s like showing up to a barbell club and everyone’s maxing out with pink plates… perfectly executed, pristine form, bloodwork on point… and I’m the dinosaur in the corner muttering, “Back in my day…”

So yeah—AITA for laughing a little when I see these minute doses compared to what we ran? Or is this just the natural evolution of the game, and I’m officially the old guy yelling at clouds?

Fire away.

 

[bananafeet]

Alright, I’m ready to be judged by the jury of bros. Am I the asshole here, or am I just old?

For context: when I first came up, my first cycle was 500mg of test and 400mg of EQ. That was considered… normal. Conservative even. Nobody threw a parade, nobody clutched pearls. It was just, “Cool, eat more and train harder.”

Later on? I’d often run 750mg of test with 500mg of tren. Again—pretty standard for the era. Not saying it was smart, not saying it was healthy, not saying anyone should do that now. Just saying that’s what the landscape looked like back then.

Fast-forward to today and I read cycle logs that look like this:

• “Thinking about 120mg test”
• “Might add 50mg of something if sides are okay”
• “Basically TRT+ but I call it a blast”

And everyone’s shredded, tracking biomarkers, wearing CGMs, quoting PubMed, and talking about longevity. Meanwhile I’m sitting here thinking, “Is this a cycle… or a multivitamin?”

Don’t get me wrong—I actually respect a lot of it. Lower doses, better drugs, better food, better knowledge, fewer people wrecking themselves just to gain 8 lbs of water and ego. That’s objectively a good thing.

But part of my brain still does a double-take when I see numbers that wouldn’t have moved the needle back in the day. It’s like showing up to a barbell club and everyone’s maxing out with pink plates… perfectly executed, pristine form, bloodwork on point… and I’m the dinosaur in the corner muttering, “Back in my day…”

So yeah—AITA for laughing a little when I see these minute doses compared to what we ran? Or is this just the natural evolution of the game, and I’m officially the old guy yelling at clouds?

Fire away.

It's the final result of people lying about their doses and gas lighting everyone into thinking 250mg of testosterone is a blast.

People like vigorous Steve saying they took 25mg of tren a week etc.

I started a cycle log taking 500mg of test E and 500mg deca and got the same sort of comments.

This is a harm reduction forum so no one is going to recommend grams of gear.

Theres a pro here called Mac11 on low doses and Misha on 4 grams of test E. So it's all over the place. You've got other people take 200mg of tren ace a day....

But generally people are running trt plus cycles. I don't know if they are wasting their time or multi gram cycles are overkill. This industry is such a head fuck.

 

[marsupial]

The influencers claiming TRT doses (ie sub 150) are all big fat liars. I cruised on TRT doses for a year thinking I’d make progress. Now that I’m on a mini blast of 315, I’ve made more progress in a month than the last year. At least I preserved my health, but it’s almost as if it wasn’t much better than natty, and makes me wanna come off entirely once the blast is done for a month or three, and then maybe even do a real dose like 500

 

[Isrrike]

I just can’t believe people are shooting oil subq. I can’t wrap my head around it for some reason

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

I just can’t believe people are shooting oil subq. I can’t wrap my head around it for some reason

Yea that also freaked me out lol. I can remember shooting test prop and fina(Tren) ED and having to get creative on injection spots to avoid scars. Now what I just shoot it in my stomach. What a crazy world.

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

Theres a pro here called Mac11 on low doses and Misha on 4 grams of test E. So it's all over the place. You've got other people take 200mg of tren ace a day....

But generally people are running trt plus cycles. I don't know if they are wasting their time or multi gram cycles are overkill. This industry is such a head fuck.

Ronnie sized cycles always scared me. I have ran 1200mg a week 1 time and to me that was high but not crazy high.

Honestly, I can't say these TRT sized blast are not working it's just weird coming from thee oldschool mindset. Normally I run that all year long as prescribed by my doctor on my TRT. I just feel weird seeing it called a "blast".

 

[Juicedhead]

I know I blame more plates more dates for this 250mg of test a week bullshit cycle thats not a cycle. Youre shutting yourself down and chaning your hormones for that? Fuck no not worth it to me I need at least 500mg test a week to consider that a cycle.

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

I know I blame more plates more dates for this 250mg of test a week bullshit cycle thats not a cycle. Youre shutting yourself down and chaning your hormones for that? Fuck no not worth it to me I need at least 500mg test a week to consider that a cycle.

Everytime I hop in I feel like I'm watching some daytime soap opera reading moreplatesmoredates. I think these guys must have gyno with all the E2 in their system. Bro get your shit together and maybe go see a psychologist instead of pouring your heart out in here to these trolls who are just gonna roast ya anyway.

 

[shredded.lyfe]

These tiny androgenic loads have perpetuated the internet.

Sure I guess if you have fucked natty test levels the 250mg might seem like a blast.

The water is making the frigging frogs gay.

 

[VidMc]

All true. Most of the younger guys are not interestet in becoming massmonsters. Its more about being shredded these days and being considered natty. Different rolemodels, different times.

 

[Juicedhead]

Everytime I hop in I feel like I'm watching some daytime soap opera reading moreplatesmoredates. I think these guys must have gyno with all the E2 in their system. Bro get your shit together and maybe go see a psychologist instead of pouring your heart out in here to these trolls who are just gonna roast ya anyway.

hahaha whaaaaaat?

 

[Juicedhead]

Everytime I hop in I feel like I'm watching some daytime soap opera reading moreplatesmoredates. I think these guys must have gyno with all the E2 in their system. Bro get your shit together and maybe go see a psychologist instead of pouring your heart out in here to these trolls who are just gonna roast ya anyway.

the reason i said that is because the 250mg cycle was not a thing before that dude started calling that a cycle.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

All true. Most of the younger guys are not interestet in becoming massmonsters. Its more about being shredded these days and being considered natty. Different rolemodels, different times.

May I add, most of 'these' younger guys it doesn't seem like they are interested in training at all - just drug's N looks.